ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)

[goldenblack]

 

[leafsfan5]

If Nylander is out we're f***ed

Between him and McMann we are missing 2 of our best goal-scorers. For a team built on their offense and having it spread out this is horrendous

 

[Over the volcano]

My impression is the Boston organization is better at producing winning hockey players. So when one leaves another steps up. Toronto, otoh, doesn't evidence the same understanding of what winning hockey is.

Its a team culture thing, on paper Boston doesn't have the talent to beat Toronto IMO.

 

[Chainshot]

I think he had some sort of medical issue and they do not want to disclose it or HE does not want to. This reeks of he had surgery or treatment for something and he simply is not yet ready to go back in and play a game but he can now skate and practice. I bet he is in for game 3 or at worst game 4.

Those videos of him on the ice look like someone moving very gingerly. Something clearly isn't right.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Matthews is also the youngest player of all the players listed.

He's also one of the rare players who actually made the playoffs since his rookie year so it's included in his stats. He'd be better off not making the playoffs when he was young because his stats would be better. MacKinnon missed the playoffs for 4 of his first 5 years.

It's undeniable Matthews is a better player today than he was as a rookie. However, you used all his stats as a teenager, 20, 21, etc. to bring him down because unlike most of the others he was actually in the playoffs at a young age.

His best playoff in terms of shooting percentage was his rookie season (25.0%) and his second beat was his 3rd season (15.6%).

It's almost always to check the faxts before making an argument.

 

[Over the volcano]

I thought the Domi and Bertuzzi additions were going to have more of an impact. Guys who can score, but don't need to as much on this team and could add the physical nature they needed.

I didn't get to watch the first game, but seems that's not the case.

Domi was great for Boston in game 1

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Its a team culture thing, on paper Boston doesn't have the talent to beat Toronto IMO.

Not sure about that as the Leafs are terribly top-heavy and built from the forwards out instead of the goalie out. That's fine for the regular season but a recipe for disaster in the playoffs.

 

[AvroArrow]

Doesn’t Swayman usually own the Leafs? Why are they starting Ullmark?

Bostons been using a tandem all year, expecting it to continue in the playoffs. Both guys are elite.

 

[Adrianopolous]

If Nylander is out we're f***ed

Between him and McMann we are missing 2 of our best goal-scorers. For a team built on their offense and having it spread out this is horrendous

How is McMann one of your best goal scorers

 

[Mickey Marner]

Im so curious as to what happened to him. He had the third most ice time during the leafs final game of the season.

Bear flu

 

[Ladyfan]

It's not the same core in Boston.

The only siginificant active member is Marchand.

Pasta has been there for 10 years.

I go for Bruins. Their media and fans are not nearly as annoying.


Good to be nervous when it's your own team. Honest and humble.
But take it from someone with no dog in this fight. Leafs are done.

I keep thinking you ARE a Bruins fan

 

[leafsfan5]

How is McMann one of your best goal scorers

Because he's really good at scoring goals and an underrated player in general

Since Jan 1 he has 14 goals in 43 games, a 27-goal pace (this is around the time he became a lineup regular and moved up). He's strong on the forecheck, works very well with JT on the 2nd line and is defensively responsible

Nylander has understandably taken all of the attention, but it's going under the radar how big of a loss McMann is to the depth-scoring of this team

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Nylander being out couldn’t be worse timing. Marner and JT need to step up or this series is over

 

[AvroArrow]

Nylander being out couldn’t be worse timing. Marner and JT need to step up or this series is over

LOT of pressure on Mitch, he was a complete no show once again in game 1. This post-season determines his future with the organization IMO. Another poor showing and he's gone.

Nylander out is a massive blow, but if Marner is out too this team has no chance. We need our top guys to perform like our top guys, can't have Ryan Reaves outscoring our "best playmaker" just can't happen.

 

[Ladyfan]

Boston Bruins in 5 this should be easy for the Bruins .

It won't be easy.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

LOT of pressure on Mitch, he was a complete no show once again in game 1. This post-season determines his future with the organization IMO. Another poor showing and he's gone.

Nylander out is a massive blow, but if Marner is out too this team has no chance. We need our top guys to perform like our top guys, can't have Ryan Reaves outscoring our "best playmaker" just can't happen.

And if he says no?

That's the major issue Toronto has by not pulling the plug on the big four sooner. Treliving and Shanny can push Marner all they want. If he decides he'd rather stick it out with his friends for one more season and then pick his destination as a free agent. There's absolutely nothing Toronto can do about it.

 

[IronCladCane]

Its a team culture thing, on paper Boston doesn't have the talent to beat Toronto IMO.

The Bs do have better depth though and play much better team defense honestly this years Bruins remind me of past years Canes good depth and team buy in but not enough high end scoring.

 

[Breakers]

So is Nylander actually injured?

or is this some sort of rule breaking Nichuskin situation?

 

[goldenblack]

So is Nylander actually injured?

or is this some sort of rule breaking Nichuskin situation?

He looks like he's skating on a 1/3 of a groin

 

[leafsfan5]

So is Nylander actually injured?

or is this some sort of rule breaking Nichuskin situation?

He's injured, there's video of him skating and having a noticeable limp

Leafs would not sit their ~100 point winger

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

LOT of pressure on Mitch, he was a complete no show once again in game 1. This post-season determines his future with the organization IMO. Another poor showing and he's gone.

Nylander out is a massive blow, but if Marner is out too this team has no chance. We need our top guys to perform like our top guys, can't have Ryan Reaves outscoring our "best playmaker" just can't happen.

He also out scored your “best goal scorer”

 

[AvroArrow]

And if he says no?

That's the major issue Toronto has by not pulling the plug on the big four sooner. Treliving and Shanny can push Marner all they want. If he decides he'd rather stick it out with his friends for one more season and then pick his destination as a free agent. There's absolutely nothing Toronto can do about it.

Wait til his deal expires next summer and let him walk, he's not worth 11M, his cap space is worth more to Toronto (if used correctly)

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

When did shooting percentage become more important than actual scoring?

Great deflection...

His shooting % in his first 3 seasons was 13.3%.

Since then ? 8.3%.

Actual scoring?

His first three seasons: 10 in 20 games.

Since then ? 12 in 31 games.

As mentioned previously, make sure th check the facts before making an (-------) argument.

 

[Over the volcano]

Not sure about that as the Leafs are terribly top-heavy and built from the forwards out instead of the goalie out. That's fine for the regular season but a recipe for disaster in the playoffs.

A case could be made either way - but from here a forward group that can roll Nylander out on its 3rd line is pretty deep. I mean Boston is trusting Danton Heinen as its #1 LW.

Boston's got a good top 3 on defense, but is also rolling out Shatenkirk and Peeke on its bottom pair (two guys who were essentially throwaways by their teams from last year)

Boston has the edge in goal, no doubt.

 

[AvroArrow]

He also out scored your “best goal scorer”

Who at least showed up unlike Marner. I can tolerate losing when guys compete, but piss poor efforts like Marner has given us every post-season are straight up disrespectful to the team, city, fan base.