ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)

[HockeyVirus]

Is it 7 yet?

 

[myleafs]

When you win 3 rockets, a Hart, a Lindsay and score 69 goals, you get "a long leash"

You just like to shit on the Leafs every chance you get, even when it's not valid.

While Matthews didnt exactly light it up last game , comparing Marner and Matthews game is way off base.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

People on both sides take this place far too serious. Entertaining to read if you enjoy mindless drivel.

 

[Transplanted Caper]

The culture thing is, of course, impossible to define, especially from the outside, but whatever it is, Boston finding a way to move from one successful core to another without a major dip is very impressive.

 

[Bust]

Normally I'd agree, but he very often has games in the playoffs where he has chances and doesn't score. He's on 6 game goalless streak in the post-season

We need him to score at a rate commensurate with being a generational goal scorer or close to it in order to have success. He has the ability to do it and I think he eventually does, but the time has to come quickly

I have no hope for Mitch

I get what you're saying.

But lumping last yrs playoffs with this is silly. It's been 1 game. He could have had 2 on Saturday. He's simply not the problem, as bad as the trolls here want him to be (not calling you a troll). He's easily the best player, for either team, in this series.

 

[GoldenKnight]

Marner and JT need to step up or this series is over

As does Auston Matthews.

 

[Czechboy]

Paging big 3 or 4???? Time to score boys.

Really excited for the double header..oilers after this.

I don't think this will be near a sweep. Leafs are good. They just need the big boys to bury a few and get rolling.

 

[leafsfan5]

Leaf fans need to slow their roll with statements like this....we are not superior to anyone until proven.

I'm not saying we're better than Boston as a team, but the forward depth on our club is better. When healthy we can run the following lineup:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - JT - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok

This is with Robertson, a player pacing for ~20 goals sitting on the bench. The team is built for offense and is top 3 in the league for it

I get what you're saying.

But lumping last yrs playoffs with this is silly. It's been 1 game. He could have had 2 on Saturday. He's simply not the problem, as bad as the trolls here want him to be (not calling you a troll). He's easily the best player, for either team, in this series.

That's fair, I don't think he is the fundamental problem. Marner is definitely more concerning and I don't think he figures it out

But Matthews not scoring is a problem, and one we need fixed soon.

 

[Bust]

I'm not saying we're better than Boston as a team, but the forward depth on our club is better. When healthy we can run the following lineup:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - JT - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok

This is with Robertson, a player pacing for ~20 goals sitting on the bench. The team is built for offense and is top 3 in the league for it


That's fair, I don't think he is the fundamental problem. Marner is definitely more concerning and I don't think he figures it out

But Matthews not scoring is a problem, and one we need fixed soon.

If hes at 0-2 goals by series end, we've got a problem and i agree. If hes at 4+, i don't see an issue. Seems odd to be debating with a small sample size but here we are.

 

[myleafs]

I'm not saying we're better than Boston as a team, but the forward depth on our club is better. When healthy we can run the following lineup:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - JT - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok

This is with Robertson, a player pacing for ~20 goals sitting on the bench. The team is built for offense and is top 3 in the league for it


That's fair, I don't think he is the fundamental problem. Marner is definitely more concerning and I don't think he figures it out

But Matthews not scoring is a problem, and one we need fixed soon.

But you said the leafs are superior to the bruins on paper....last I looked paper doesnt hit, shoot, make saves, take a hit or play a collective team game. I dont care what the stats or numbers say anymore. May as well pull out the expected goals/win chart and we can all fawn over how good we are cause look the paper says so. Bruins play a team game and all look to be on the same page, cant say the same for leafs for about 7 years now. I like some of the guys brought in and their attitude but our top guys dont play with that same edge and never have.

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

My favorite stat for this series, Pat Maroon has currently more points than the following, combined and individually:

Matthews
Tavares
Marner

1 game. Super small sample size. Beautiful none-the-less.

 

[sampollock]

As does Auston Matthews.

never his fault for fig fans

 

[tom leafers]

My favorite stat for this series, Pat Maroon has currently more points than the following, combined and individually:

Matthews
Tavares
Marner

1 game. Super small sample size. Beautiful none-the-less.

and ryan reaves has as many points as david pastrnak. useless stats are useless after 1 game

lets see the stats after todays game

 

[goldenblack]

I'm not saying we're better than Boston as a team, but the forward depth on our club is better. When healthy we can run the following lineup:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - JT - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok

The issue is, how many of those are good playoff hockey players? 4 maybe?

 

[93gilmour93]

and ryan reaves has as many points as david pastrnak. useless stats are useless after 1 game

lets see the stats after todays game

Kampf has more goals than Pasta and Marchand combined. Let's see if he can continue the hot streak

 

[PaulD]

And shabs are in Mexico.

Yea , there been there every year since thet knocked the leafs out in the first round

The issue is, how many of those are good playoff hockey players? 4 maybe?

Matthews and Tavares have 0 goals in their last 12 play off games combined.

Beecher has 1 in his only play off game ever.

 

[danpantz]

and ryan reaves has as many points as david pastrnak. useless stats are useless after 1 game

lets see the stats after todays game

Ryan Reaves is a point per game player in these playoffs. Show some respect.

 

[Pebble live]

Leaf fans need to slow their roll with statements like this....we are not superior to anyone until proven.

I had this same thought today. I've seen so many leaf fans try to say this leafs team is better on paper than this bruins team. That is classic Toronto. Players are over valued and over hyped.

I'm a leafs fan btw.

 

[AvroArrow]

Kampf has more goals than Pasta and Marchand combined. Let's see if he can continue the hot streak

Should the Bruins strip Marchand of the C ? Will Pasta demand a trade ? OMG

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

and ryan reaves has as many points as david pastrnak. useless stats are useless after 1 game

lets see the stats after todays game

Meh, you could say that, but that kind of scoring power and payroll not getting a point, but Maroon getting one is pretty damn good.

1st game of the playoffs is a good time to show up and start.

Here's to hoping Patty has more points than them the rest of the way.

 

[Divine]

His best playoff in terms of shooting percentage was his rookie season (25.0%) and his second beat was his 3rd season (15.6%).

It's almost always to check the faxts before making an argument.

What about his best playoffs in terms of production?

No one cares about shooting percentage but you.

 

[AvroArrow]

What about his best playoffs in terms of production?

No one cares about shooting percentage but you.

Tells you a lot about a poster, when a Habs fan is "cheering for Boston" (aka Toronto to lose)

There's 4 or 5 of these guys that show up in all Leaf related threads regularly, regardless of what's happening, just to throw shade. Must be rough times in Montreal when they become Bruins fans.

 

[Despote]

Predicting Auston Matthews 1st career playoff hattrick.

 

[Over the volcano]

Maybe it's team culture, I don't know ... my suspicion is the Bruins organization is just better at producing winning hockey players - scouting, drafting, coaching, teaching young players what's important, working on necessary skills, recognizing what they can bring to the table, having a good system, etc. That could be called team culture, I guess.

The Toronto organization strikes me as more like my Rangers ... a little behind the 8-ball in those areas. Here that has been offset by the fact that two great players - Panarin & Fox - want to be here, and picked us. I don't know if Toronto has that advantage.

I can see that. If anything, their success this year has been identifying cheap talent to bring on board and fill in holes (Peeke and Maroon at the deadline, Bovqist, Heinen, Geekie, Shatenkirk, Wotherspoon in the off season). But again, it's really the team culture and approach that helps the new additions fit in as pieces to the puzzle.

 

[PB37]

I'm not saying we're better than Boston as a team, but the forward depth on our club is better. When healthy we can run the following lineup:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - JT - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok

This is with Robertson, a player pacing for ~20 goals sitting on the bench. The team is built for offense and is top 3 in the league for it


That's fair, I don't think he is the fundamental problem. Marner is definitely more concerning and I don't think he figures it out

But Matthews not scoring is a problem, and one we need fixed soon.

The Leafs forwards are impressive on paper, I agree there. The problem I see time and time again is the Leafs get lost in coverage in their own zone and the core 4 are too often contained in key situations.