I was NOT a believer but Cole Caufield is the BEST Player from the 2019 Draft.

[rockymtnoyster]

Boldy is +6 at 5v5. Rossi, is linemate, is +17..........by your reasoning, Rossi is the driving force on that line, and the anchor defensively

Rossi has been playing away from Boldy and is having a breakout year.

Way to avoid the point.

It was a joke obviously.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Rossi has been playing away from Boldy and is having a breakout year.

That's not really a selling point, for Boldy.

I'll play devil's advocate though, and say the reason his +/- is better might be because Rossi is playing softer minutes, when away from Boldy.

Boldy still played close to 35% of his ES minutes with Rossi.

 

[Quinning]

Did Jack Hughes f*** this man's wife?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Cirelli has a couple rings, wouldn't be a bad idea...... lmao
To be fair , canadian head coach Jon Cooper definitely had an influence, couple head scratchers in leaving Scheifiele off for TK.

If he's that great, maybe Tampa will accept to trade you Cirelli for Kaprisov.

 

[Killing Joke]

He’s not even close lol. It’s Hughes by a wide margin.

 

[Killing Joke]

Really is that because he is great in the faceoff circle or shuts down opposition lines?

Jack's value lies in in his incredible speed and offensive ability and he and Bratt compliment each other very well, the projection that he was going to be a top 5 NHL player was wishful thinking IMO and also unless he is in a daily league his fantasy status probably is over rated as well due to injuries but I haven't done fantasy hockey in over 10 years so that's a guess.

Lmao faceoffs are not a measurement of a great center. Hughes metrics show he’s actually good defensively, in fact he’s better defensively than Hischier who gets touted as a selke type player.

 

[rockymtnoyster]

If he's that great, maybe Tampa will accept to trade you Cirelli for Kaprisov.

Lol dont even start with Kaprizov. Coming off the biggest contract ever given to someone who hasn't played 100 gp, he'll be cashing in for more then Rantanen, saying Suzuki and Kaprizov are on the same level skill wise is idiotic. That being said I mentioned above that I was joking with that response about Cirelli.

That's not really a selling point, for Boldy.

I'll play devil's advocate though, and say the reason his +/- is better might be because Rossi is playing softer minutes, when away from Boldy.

Boldy still played close to 35% of his ES minutes with Rossi.

Could be true, but doesn't change that Boldys +/- is better then Caufield this year even though Boldys year has been mildly disappointing, and Caufields having his best season to date.

 

[bobholly39]

He's having a great year but as others have said there's a lot of talented players in that draft, starting with Hughes.

Does he have a case for #2? I'd say he's in contention with quite a few others maybe

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Could be true, but doesn't change that Boldys +/- is better than Caufield this year even though Boldys year has been mildly disappointing, and Caufields having his best season to date.

I’m amazed that plus minus continues to be cited by people as evidence of anything.

 

[ToDavid]

(* NO idea where to put the always hurt Jack Hughes. *)

Not even listing the guy leading the draft in games played, goals, and points is certainly a take.

 

[bud12]

Lol dont even start with Kaprizov. Coming off the biggest contract ever given to someone who hasn't played 100 gp, he'll be cashing in for more then Rantanen, saying Suzuki and Kaprizov are on the same level skill wise is idiotic. That being said I mentioned above that I was joking with that response about Cirelli.



Could be true, but doesn't change that Boldys +/- is better then Caufield this year even though Boldys year has been mildly disappointing, and Caufields having his best season to date.

Caufield have a better +/- at 5v5 while playing on a worst team.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Lol dont even start with Kaprizov. Coming off the biggest contract ever given to someone who hasn't played 100 gp, he'll be cashing in for more then Rantanen, saying Suzuki and Kaprizov are on the same level skill wise is idiotic. That being said I mentioned above that I was joking with that response about Cirelli.



Could be true, but doesn't change that Boldys +/- is better then Caufield this year even though Boldys year has been mildly disappointing, and Caufields having his best season to date.

Boldy is playing for a stronger team (78 pts vs 68) which has a better goal differential (-5 vs -20) and has the same plus minus as the tiny, one dimensional Cole Caufield

But he did get selected for the 4 nations so nuff said

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Could be true, but doesn't change that Boldys +/- is better then Caufield this year even though Boldys year has been mildly disappointing, and Caufields having his best season to date.

Dude, your reply is so pedestrian. Caufield has a better 5v5 +/-. The only reason his ES +/- is worst than Boldy is because he's been on the ice for more empty net goals. Be a big boy and learn that in this age of rampant empty net goals, looking up the 5v5 collumn before making a comment about ES +/-, which includes empty nets, will help you save face. Empty net goals allowed is more reflective of the team's overall play, as better teams will tend to have less empty nets allowed.

Caufield is +10 at 5v5, while Boldy is +7.

Also while we're at it, Caufield is a much better 5v5 producer than Boldy this season as he has 40 5v5 points in 880 minutes while Boldy has 29 points in 995 minutes of play:

Boldy gets far more of his points from the PP.

Caufield has a worst 5v5 GA/60 at 2.66 vs 1.93 for Boldy, but plays in front of much worst goalies and defense than Boldy does. Caufield smokes him in GF/60 though. He's 3.30 while Boldy is 2.32.

Also, Caufield has 50 primary points, while Boldy has 39.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

I’d have other guys ahead of him still but you might be able to make an argument that he is top 5.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Thread is a good laugh for NJD and DET fans.

 

[The Last Red]

Thread is a good laugh for NJD and DET fans.

He’s not the best player from that draft, obviously, but the thread was started by a Leafs fan, not a Habs fan. Also, Red Wings fans aren’t laughing about much these days, the Yzerplan is a borderline bust at this point, and the Devils are basically the softest team in the NHL, with or without Jack Hughes.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

He’s not the best player from that draft, obviously, but the thread was started by a Leafs fan, not a Habs fan. Also, Red Wings fans aren’t laughing about much these days, the Yzerplan is s borderline bust at this point, and the Devils are basically the softest team in the NHL, with or without Jack Hughes.

We're laughing pretty hard at the concept that Caufield is more valuable or better than Seider.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

We're laughing pretty hard at the concept that Caufield is more valuable or better than Seider.

Caufield is 2nd in the league for the percentage of goals scored of his team. He's top 25 in the league for ES points (F+D). Has the 2nd best 5v5 +/- on his team, a team that has a negative differential, while always playing on the first line and getting the toughest opposition. Seider is tied for 65th among all Ds for ES points. So while Seider is bigger boon for Detroit's defense, Caufield has the same level impact on offense.

It's highly arguable.

 

[EXTRAS]

I think there are a good amount of players teams would prefer from this draft over Caufield.

 

[ORRFForever]

Not even listing the guy leading the draft in games played, goals, and points is certainly a take.

Why thank you.

 

[BondraEra]

 

[Thierry]

It's obvisouly ridiculous, but I like that Caufield get more love nowadays.

Personnally, I take Hughes and Seider before him. On Caufield's tier, you have Boldy and Harley. Honorable mention to York

And jury's still out for Cozens, Byram (injury), Knight and Zegras, IMO. They could reach another level (or in Cozen and Zegras' case, a level they reached in the past.)

1. Hughes
2. Seider
3. Boldy
4. Caufield
5. Harley
6. Protas
7 York
8. McMichael
9. Byram
10. Knight
11. Cozens
12. Broberg
13. Dorofeyev
14. Zegras
15. Kakko
16. Dach

I might underate Byram and overate York.

 

[FerrisRox]

Hes more physical then Caufield thats for sure

You think Matt Boldy is a physical player?

I'm not sure I have ever seen Matt Boldy even throw a hit.

That's not hyperbole, I truly don't think I've ever seen him hit a player.

 

[Frank Drebin]

It's obvisouly ridiculous, but I like that Caufield get more love nowadays.

Personnally, I take Hughes and Seider before him. On Caufield's tier, you have Boldy and Harley. Honorable mention to York

And jury's still out for Cozens, Byram (injury), Knight and Zegras, IMO. They could reach another level (or in Cozen and Zegras' case, a level they reached in the past.)

1. Hughes
2. Seider
3. Boldy
4. Caufield
5. Harley
6. Protas
7 York
8. McMichael
9. Byram
10. Knight
11. Cozens
12. Broberg
13. Dorofeyev
14. Zegras
15. Kakko
16. Dach

I might underate Byram and overate York.

missing dustin wolf

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

You think Matt Boldy is a physical player?

I'm not sure I have ever seen Matt Boldy even throw a hit.

That's not hyperbole, I truly don't think I've ever seen him hit a player.

Caufield finishes all his checks and even goes out of his way to do so every time he's out there. Something that you won't notice unless you watch him.

I'm not saying he's super effective at it but he's really willing considering his size..
He's also better 5 on 5 than Boldy