I don’t even…
Why don’t we call him a 45 point player or a 50 point player if we’re just going to throw out inaccurate stats lmao.
Value of: Dvorak Trade Value
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I don’t even…
Why don’t we call him a 45 point player or a 50 point player if we’re just going to throw out inaccurate stats lmao.
Ah yes, playing a prime position on one of the worst teams in the league, and doing a terrible job of it doesn’t make him a prime player….and he is making 4.5m? It is hilarious you used the words Dvorak and superstar in thee same sentence, cause they don’t belong anywhere near each other. I can believe any team would panic and trade the puck they got for the 3OA player AND a 2nd for Dvorak…and then have to pay him 4.5m. He might play a prime position for Montreal or Arizona but there is no way any other team have him anywhere near their top 6…or even their top 9.
It’s too bad you stopped reading there because then he went on to say:
He could probably fetch a 20-32 first round pick.
ChaoticOrange
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Here’s one of the reasons I don’t understand people being so insistent that Yamamoto has negative value but Dvorak with multiple years left at 4.45 is worth a 2nd at minimum? Or other people saying a first?? Doesn’t compute.
That is hilarious, thanks for pointing that out. That has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard on here, and that is saying something.It’s too bad you stopped reading there because then he went on to say:
He could probably fetch a 20-32 first round pick.
My bet is he is going to come back with the “boohoo everyone just hates the Habs” card. Whose giving me odds on that old line?
Based on Cap hit ( slightly over paid by 1.5 ) , real money owed ( wow ) and poor center metrics ( better suited to play wing ( support player )
I would see his value either at trading for a similar player in another position that each team needs to fill ( trash contract for a trash contract ) or with a pick ( 3rd, but may need more due to real dollars owed ) to a team to eat his contract
I would see his value either at trading for a similar player in another position that each team needs to fill ( trash contract for a trash contract ) or with a pick ( 3rd, but may need more due to real dollars owed ) to a team to eat his contract
Looks like hab fans finally saw the light and ran. I guess they finally realized they aren’t dumping Dvorak on any team without adding a 1st to get rid of him. They must be butt hurt cause they have no leverage to find someone wanting a minor leaguer to play on a real NHL team.
Beukeboom Fan
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Disagree in general, because I doubt a team team takes on OEL's contract for less than something less than a pick around that range. 4 more years at $7.3M per after PHO is already retaining.
Beukeboom Fan
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Have to agree. "Pace" is good for fantasy hockey when you can easily replace someone who isn't playing. In the NHL - if you consistently miss time the replacement is likely a rookie or limited 4th liner making the league minimum.
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A team desperate for a center and cap space would send a 2nd I think, not a 1st. It's hard to sign centers in UFA and for only 2 years which gives him some value I think but he's not a piece every team is interested in adding, and most teams near the cap probably would have no interest at all.
Just stated what I think the guy is worth.
I understand. It really must be a terrible feeling to root for a team that is in no mans land, already depleted of talent knowing that the few guys that actually have value desperately wants out but taking your anger in another team player/value and making fun of another poster won’t bring PLD, Scheifele or Helly back. Kind of like being mad and obsessing at your ex current boyfriend because he’s got a brighter future than you do and the girl.
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Depending on market right now/at the draft, if 2 teams wanted him I could see someone putting out a 5th rounder for him. If more than 1 team isnt interested you'd probably just be looking at futures, aka free, with some salary retained. Could possibly fetch something at the deadline if he has a solid year
Llewzaher
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I would take him back on the Yotes , if you gave us a draft pick… he was good when we had him and I think under AT would do well
You must not watch hockey. We could lose our Vezina winning goalie, our 40+ goal scoring center Schiefele (and that was actual goals, not pacing for 40+ goals), and our 6’4, 225lb wrecking ball center that has put up more points than anyone on the habs, and we would still have a norris calibre dman in Morrissey (who by the way would be the leading scorer on the Habs….as a dman), along with a point a game scorer who is one of the top scorers in the league since coming into the league in Kyle Connor. Nik Ehlers who outscored your untouchables like Caulfield and Kirby Dach when he only playing half the games this season, not to mention the guys like Lowry who is one of the best shutdown players ing the game, Cole Perfetti… wow that is a lot of players…and that doesn’t even dip into our draft picks that we have coming up. Notice how I didn’t have to make crazy claims like Lambert is untouchable just because he destroyed players like Beck in scoring, or saying how our Kovacevic who was the 12th dman on our depth chart and he played 20 minutes a night on your team.
Plus we are going to get a boatload of players back for those players you mentioned. Not those Dvorak, Mesas, mailiux types of players….some really good ones that Vezina trophy winning goals bring back, or 40+ goal scores. Hell even Blake wheeler has more value than the guys you think are valuable like edmonson, Anderson, Hoffman, Monahan…oh wait he got the hell out of town.
So the future looks bright. Really bright. Look like you don’t know what depleted actually means, but you should. I am sure you will go ahead and draft Michkov and wait 4 years for him not to report and go to another team like kaprizov. My bet is you take another swing and miss like you did with KK, Slaf and Dach and end up with a player like Leonard cause your management can’t afford to screw up yet again.
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I think the Eller comparison is best - a couple of middling second rounders makes sense, though it's likely he'd need to be moved in a player for player deal since cap is tight everywhere.
Similar to Petry in that regard - since Montreal got a player for him, we'll never know which draft pick value he had on paper.
But Dvorak plays a key position, is signed until the cap goes up, and plays a reasonably well-rounded game, I expect a team low on C depth might add him. While there are plenty of UFAs out there, you don't get a C of his level without committing for far more than 2 seasons.
I doubt a first ever enters the conversation unless it's draft day and a team isn't thrilled with the remaining options on the draft board at the tail end of the round, but a 2nd and/or a suspect might make sense.
Similar to Petry in that regard - since Montreal got a player for him, we'll never know which draft pick value he had on paper.
But Dvorak plays a key position, is signed until the cap goes up, and plays a reasonably well-rounded game, I expect a team low on C depth might add him. While there are plenty of UFAs out there, you don't get a C of his level without committing for far more than 2 seasons.
I doubt a first ever enters the conversation unless it's draft day and a team isn't thrilled with the remaining options on the draft board at the tail end of the round, but a 2nd and/or a suspect might make sense.
Dvorack is worth at least PLD+Wpg 1st. And every Jets fan should thank their lucky stars if Mtrl gifts him to you for such a small price, they could easily demand more but are willing to settle for less as a goodwill gesture.
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Negative value. Calgary would probably take him off your hands for the Florida 1st.
Montreal is better off keeping him since he doesn't threaten their re-build.
Montreal is better off keeping him since he doesn't threaten their re-build.
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17pts two-way center who's good on faceoffs making 5.380 a year = Elite
Statistically speaking, that claim is quite literally as accurate as yours. Both are equally wrong, but in the opposite direction.
Difference is I know what I wrote was BS. You actually believed yours when you wrote it. Lol
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