Dodgers, Angels, Rams, Lakers, and Clippers Discussion IV

[no name]

You mean the same ones that burned all those LeBron jerseys four years ago?

What I meant was James was going to flirt with the Cavs. He drew it all out and created a huge circus.

 

[Reclamation Project]

He actually repeated what Ron said...but as usual Ron overreacts to everything. Kellerman is just lucky he didn't post it on Twitter.


Bottom line is the Lakers are gonna be bad for a long time. They aren't making the playoffs this year, and don't have their 1st unless they finish bottom 5. So the Lakers will be in the super deadzone. And because of this terrible outlook, nobody wants to sign with the Lakers (not to mention having to deal with Kobe). And now the 1 player they mighta had a shot at is trying to angle his way to Cleveland. Lakers better pray Randle becomes Barkley right away...

 

[Ron*]

He actually repeated what Ron said...but as usual Ron overreacts to everything.

Thank you. I love you too.

Anyway, most people here have figured out my posting style is tongue-in-cheek and for effect.

Most people.

By the way, your avatar is creeping me out and has been for years.

 

[Reclamation Project]

By the way, your avatar is creeping me out and has been for years.

All complaints can be sent to my personal Twitter account - @KateUpton

 

[Ron*]

All complaints can be sent to my personal Twitter account - @KateUpton

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Oh God.

 

[took420s]

Bottom line is the Lakers are gonna be bad for a long time.

Define "long time"? One trade, one player can turn around a franchise. Kobe was demanding to be traded after a couple first round exists to the Suns, They land Gasol and the same year are in the finals then win the next 2. I think it is extremely shortsighted to look at a couple years in a bubble and have it define an organization.

Its called rebuilding, Lakers have done it more than once and usually quite successfully as all those banners hanging on the wall suggest. Now if they had panicked and had guys under albatross contracts I would agree with you, but they are positioned well for this rebuild and the next 2 years have multiple franchise changing players coming up in free agency.

Again, you can't land the big fish if you don't have the bait. Lakers have a ton of bait free my bet is they come out of this all right as they have many times before. The bandwagon will be back, for now they can all talk about how they have been Clipper Fans for life and ride that train.

 

[HYORI 1963]

All complaints can be sent to my personal Twitter account - @KateUpton

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That isn't disturbing at all.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Oh God.

 

[KingLB]

Define "long time"? One trade, one player can turn around a franchise. Kobe was demanding to be traded after a couple first round exists to the Suns, They land Gasol and the same year are in the finals then win the next 2. I think it is extremely shortsighted to look at a couple years in a bubble and have it define an organization.

Its called rebuilding, Lakers have done it more than once and usually quite successfully as all those banners hanging on the wall suggest. Now if they had panicked and had guys under albatross contracts I would agree with you, but they are positioned well for this rebuild and the next 2 years have multiple franchise changing players coming up in free agency.

Again, you can't land the big fish if you don't have the bait. Lakers have a ton of bait free my bet is they come out of this all right as they have many times before. The bandwagon will be back, for now they can all talk about how they have been Clipper Fans for life and ride that train.

5+ years...

In what way are the Lakers rebuilding?? They don't have their first next year, and they have an aging star that is going to keep them from being truly bad for atleast the next 2 years.

The Lakers idea of "rebuilding" is sit around and wait for FA's that want to come. They got nothing this year, and if Love goes to Cleveland there is really nothing next year. So then your waiting two years for the hope that KD wants to come to a bottom 10 team in the league just cause the team happens to wear purple and gold.

 

[ADifferentTim]

HOU still needed to dump those contracts so even if they don't get Melo or Bosh it was a good move for them.

Curious to see if Gasol resigns or if they work out a sign and trade...would be surprised if he just leaves without helping the Lakers out if its possible.

Xmas game pretty much guaranteed to be CLE vs MIA now

*edit Gsol turned down 2 yr 10million/yr from Lakers...so now hoping NY or CHI can sign and trade LA some assets for him in their effort to get Melo.

Realistically, I see a one-year deal for Pau Gasol to an ECF team and then...BAM! 2015 NBA Free Agency.

Bosh and Wade are pretty much this of the NBA.

Meanwhile on YouTube...

 

[took420s]

5+ years...

In what way are the Lakers rebuilding?? They don't have their first next year, and they have an aging star that is going to keep them from being truly bad for atleast the next 2 years.

The Lakers idea of "rebuilding" is sit around and wait for FA's that want to come. They got nothing this year, and if Love goes to Cleveland there is really nothing next year. So then your waiting two years for the hope that KD wants to come to a bottom 10 team in the league just cause the team happens to wear purple and gold.

-They have a #7 pick who will get to play a lot and develop, possible ROY candidate we shall see.
-They bought a 2nd round pick (Clarkson) who just looked great in his first summer league game yesterday
-They acquired a #1 pick + future pick from Houston in the Lin trade
-They acquired Lin who is still young and could blossom into a #1 pg or more likely be a very good backup for years if they choose to resign him.
-Possible Gasol sign/trade in the works with the Bulls that will bring in some more assets.
-They preserved capspace. Yes one free agent can turn a team around so this huge that they are not burdened with bad contracts.

That's all you can do really right? They are a bit behind due to giving away picks for Nash and Howard so to me I count this next season as year 1 of the rebuild.

I would say if they are contending for titles again in 5 years that is not "a long time" that is "a great rebuild".

 

[HYORI 1963]

Pau Gasol to CHI according to ESPN.

 

[took420s]

Bummer, the rumored sign and trade included no picks so Mitch let him walk with nothing to show for it...kinda bummed at that one I must admit.

Pau is a HOF'er who helped bring them 2 chips, his number will hang in the rafters one day I would think after he is inducted. Thanks for your best years wish it could have ended better!

 

[HYORI 1963]

Gasol's a borderline HOF at best and probably 50/50 chance he gets his jersey retired.

 

[took420s]

Normally I would agree but its not the NBA hall of fame its the Basketball HOF so his international team time is factored in and his play there puts him over the top as a sure bet to get in I think. I am not sold on his number being retired either depends on if he maybe ends career in LA or possibly joins as a scout/coach or something down the road.

 

[cyclones22]

Yep he's going to make it in. His being an international and at this point the greatest Spanish player of all time is going to weigh heavily.

 

[HYORI 1963]

I totally forgot it was the basketball HOF. Anyone know why NBA doesn't have a HOF of its own? It would seem to make sense.

 

[Ron*]

@LarryCoon: Pat Riley issued a classy, articulate statement on Bron's exit. Doesn't he know that to win him back, he needs to trash him on the way out?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I sure do miss Pat Riley when he was behind the bench for the Showtime era Lakers. It's what got me into basketball when I was a kid. Until some Wayne Gretzky fella came to town and got me hooked onto hockey.

Jerry West should've never left the Lakers as well, but thanks to Kobe and Shaq being drama queens, he got fed up dealing with their personalities.

 

[HeadInjury]

Actually, I think West's bigger problem was with Jackson.

 

[Ron*]

I sure do miss Pat Riley when he was behind the bench for the Showtime era Lakers. It's what got me into basketball when I was a kid. Until some Wayne Gretzky fella came to town and got me hooked onto hockey.

Jerry West should've never left the Lakers as well, but thanks to Kobe and Shaq being drama queens, he got fed up dealing with their personalities.

Actually, I think West's bigger problem was with Jackson.

No, I'm going to agree with Ziggy, those two a-holes made watching Laker basketball disappointing. Never thought that would happen, used to love the Lakers all the time. Even the third title wasn't that much fun with these two a-holes bickering with each other.

 

[reset]

Thank you. I love you too.

Anyway, most people here have figured out my posting style is tongue-in-cheek and for effect.

Most people.

By the way, your avatar is creeping me out and has been for years.

thats why we love ron lol

 

[21Dog]

No, I'm going to agree with Ziggy, those two a-holes made watching Laker basketball disappointing. Never thought that would happen, used to love the Lakers all the time. Even the third title wasn't that much fun with these two a-holes bickering with each other.

Never enjoyed a championship by one of my teams less.

The whole "whose team is it.....Kobe's or Shaq's?" got old in a hurry.

 

[21Dog]

Gasol's a borderline HOF at best and probably 50/50 chance he gets his jersey retired.

Lakers only retire the numbers of Hall of Famers.

 

[ADifferentTim]

I totally forgot it was the basketball HOF. Anyone know why NBA doesn't have a HOF of its own? It would seem to make sense.

The Basketball HOF is for people that made lifetime contributions to the game...in America!

However, I have yet to know of a Basketball HOF inductee from the Philippines, especially when it has the second oldest pro league in the world, let alone the first and oldest in Asia, and #FilipinosLoveBasketball.