Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

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FooteBahl

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I hope that isn't true because if it is it's stupidity. Especially considering they offered Gaudreau more and Dougie already makes more.
Jack signed a contract that could have been a potential overpayment when he signed it. Now it looks to be the next MacKinnon contract. When his contract is up when he’s 29, god only knows how much the cap will be; who knows, maybe he gets another 8 year deal at 15 per.

He may be a little butthurt that people are making more, but he’ll do quite fine for himself until the next big contract.
 

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Jack signed a contract that could have been a potential overpayment when he signed it. Now it looks to be the next MacKinnon contract. When his contract is up when he’s 29, god only knows how much the cap will be; who knows, maybe he gets another 8 year deal at 15 per.

He may be a little butthurt that people are making more, but he’ll do quite fine for himself until the next big contract.

He really doesn't have the right to be butthurt because as you said it could've been a huge overpay based on what he had shown at the time of the signing while Meier/Bratt would be getting paid fairly based on what they've done. He also could've waited until he finished out his ELC rather than signing an extension and he'll be kissing winning goodbye if we set that arbitrary cap
 
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The Bratt situation just sounds like a divorce waiting to happen. The team bet on everyone else but him and now that he proved them wrong twice they want him to take below market value?
 

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Nah, don't buy it. Fitz has shown he's been willingly to spend, the case for Bratt is weird because he was trying to get Bratt something team friendly and in Bratt's case why would he when some of the guys on NJ have gotten paid for their future potential versus what they did. Bratt and Meier 8.5x8 and call it a day.
 

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The Bratt situation just sounds like a divorce waiting to happen. The team bet on everyone else but him and now that he proved them wrong twice they want him to take below market value?
Who says they want him to take below market value? All signs are pointing to Fitz wanting to see one more year before throwing big money at him, which he's now seeing. For all we know, Bratt is the one being unreasonable and asking 9.5.

I'm fairly confident this gets done.
 

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Who says they want him to take below market value? All signs are pointing to Fitz wanting to see one more year before throwing big money at him, which he's now seeing. For all we know, Bratt is the one being unreasonable and asking 9.5.

I'm fairly confident this gets done.

FWIW, with the way Nico and Hughes deals look like we can afford an "overpay" on a player for the future. The Luke/Nemec ELC's are going to be the biggest key to being contenders if everything happens like we expect it to with a Meier deal + Bratt extension.
 

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Speaking of these dumb social media fans, this comment deserves to be publicly shamed for being one of the biggest dumb shit comments I’ve read in a while.

This was in the comments section of THG’s video on the Devils going into the all star break, that he dropped today. He’s doing one for all 32 teams.

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How does a team manage to go 0-1-5 in REGULATION?

How is that possible?
 

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11. I wouldn’t say New Jersey is the team to beat on Timo Meier, but it’s clear teams know the Devils are very much in it. The biggest balancing act for them might be their salary structure. It sounds like they prefer to have no forwards above Jack Hughes’ $8M AAV — or at least not blowing that out of the water. That’s not only a consideration for Meier, but also Jesper Bratt.

They really need not to act like this, but hopefully not blowing out of the water is still somewhere in the late 8's or 9s. Cant be losing out on Bratt and Meier because you don't want to pay league min (750k) to a depth piece (1.5) above Jack's AAV.

SJ is also asking teams about goalie prospects. He didn't say they were doing this in relation to Meier but if they were looking at goalies coming back for Meier then I'm not a fan of that if Carolina were to throw in Kotchetkov or Buffalo with Levi

Speaking of these dumb social media fans, this comment deserves to be publicly shamed for being one of the biggest dumb shit comments I’ve read in a while.

This was in the comments section of THG’s video on the Devils going into the all star break, that he dropped today. He’s doing one for all 32 teams.

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How does a team manage to go 0-1-5 in REGULATION?

How is that possible?

I mean they are right pretty much all around. We've been playing really shit hockey lately. Jack's carrying the load super hard. We've had 0 regulation wins in the last 6, 1 loss, and 5 ties.
 
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Speaking of these dumb social media fans, this comment deserves to be publicly shamed for being one of the biggest dumb shit comments I’ve read in a while.

This was in the comments section of THG’s video on the Devils going into the all star break, that he dropped today. He’s doing one for all 32 teams.

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How does a team manage to go 0-1-5 in REGULATION?

How is that possible?
I think he means 5 ties.
 

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SJ is also asking teams about goalie prospects. He didn't say they were doing this in relation to Meier but if they were looking at goalies coming back for Meier then I'm not a fan of that if Carolina were to throw in Kotchetkov or Buffalo with Levi



I mean they are right pretty much all around. We've been playing really shit hockey lately. Jack's carrying the load super hard. We've had 0 regulation wins in the last 6, 1 loss, and 5 ties.
I don’t at all disagree with anything that person said other than the 0-1-5 in regulation.

He could say 0 regulation wins in the last two weeks, but counting the OT results and passing them off as regulation results? That was my issue.

Why is it 5 ties? Wouldn’t only the shootouts be considered a tie? I think only one of those games has gone to shootout?
 

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I don’t at all disagree with anything that person said other than the 0-1-5 in regulation.

He could say 0 regulation wins in the last two weeks, but counting the OT results and passing them off as regulation results? That was my issue.

Why is it 5 ties? Wouldn’t only the shootouts be considered a tie? I think only one of those games has gone to shootout?

He said in regulation... as in we have 0 wins, 1 loss, and went to OT 5 times
 

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He said in regulation... as in we have 0 wins, 1 loss, and went to OT 5 times
Well, I guess I understand that, but to use the column for regulation just seems a bit misleading. He could point out no regulation wins in the last 6, but I really don’t understand why he would use 3 columns in regards to regulation results lol.
 

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Speaking of these dumb social media fans, this comment deserves to be publicly shamed for being one of the biggest dumb shit comments I’ve read in a while.

This was in the comments section of THG’s video on the Devils going into the all star break, that he dropped today. He’s doing one for all 32 teams.

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How does a team manage to go 0-1-5 in REGULATION?

How is that possible?
NJ is a good but flawed team. Depth scoring is an obvious issue. It’s still a work in progress. Old man Hischier is 24. Jack is 21 Mercer is 21 Nemec and Luke are teenagers. Schmid is 22. Holtz is 21. It’s not and was never going to be a finished product this season. Having better results than expected doesn’t change the nature of the team . Who before the season was predicting anything beyond a bubble season? They have gotten better results but in some respects they are still a building team . During the games it can be frustrating to watch but the future remains bright. This is a team finding its way not some NYR team that is peaking and about to start wobbling as its main forward start to age.
 

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We're not, STI just reads Twitter and thinks it's here. Twitter is not here. Tired of people thinking that it is, tired of people quote tweeting their own tweets (hilarious photoshops excepted), etc. A board like this with ~50 regular posters is an idiosyncratic place and somewhere like here can develop totally different opinions on players than e.g. Reddit or Twitter or AATJ or anywhere else where fans congregate.
You are correct, I was responding to a bunch of stuff on Twitter and the blogosphere, not on HFBoards. Sorry if that was not clear.
 

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Speaking of these dumb social media fans, this comment deserves to be publicly shamed for being one of the biggest dumb shit comments I’ve read in a while.

This was in the comments section of THG’s video on the Devils going into the all star break, that he dropped today. He’s doing one for all 32 teams.

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How does a team manage to go 0-1-5 in REGULATION?

How is that possible?
He pretending OT is a tie.

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We have 2 less regulation wins (24) than the Leafs & Bolts (26).
And 1 more regulation win than Carolina (23).
And 2 more than the Rangers & Panthers (22). And 3 more than the Caps & Isles (21).
And 4 more than the Pens (20).
And 5 more than the Sabres (19).

Unless this is a Boston fan strutting around because his team has 33 regulation wins, they need to zip it.

Our numbers are wobblier and we’ve had a lot of OT lately but so? It happens? Thanks for the heads up though I guess.

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People constantly shoot down arguments on other boards and platforms that aren't happening here.....

Because his post was long it bothers you?
If it's a long post, I think we're permitted by American law to refrain from reading it. That being said, @Triumph has had a longtime pastime of critical replies to my posts, which is all well and good and also clearly permitted by American law.

As you are no doubt aware the discussion here has been laser focused on Meier. I don't think any of the hf NJ assemblage have given much thought to a rental trade. The consensus seems to be it's too early in the competitive cycle for this core to give up anything of significance for one playoff run. Meier is perceived to be different since the thought is that he'd sign an extension as part of a trade and be willing to in order to cast his lot in with his countrymen. I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know but with you engrossed in your bar and writing you might not have had time to read all the stellar posts we have put up here. Especially my posts. Some of them are absolutely genius level.
You are absolutely a genius. No one disputes this.

It was clear. We were just offended that you lumped us in with them :nod:
I personally find you in particular unlumpable.
 

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NJ is a good but flawed team. Depth scoring is an obvious issue. It’s still a work in progress. Old man Hischier is 24. Jack is 21 Mercer is 21 Nemec and Luke are teenagers. Schmid is 22. Holtz is 21. It’s not and was never going to be a finished product this season. Having better results than expected doesn’t change the nature of the team . Who before the season was predicting anything beyond a bubble season? They have gotten better results but in some respects they are still a building team . During the games it can be frustrating to watch but the future remains bright. This is a team finding its way not some NYR team that is peaking and about to start wobbling as its main forward start to age.
Bratt also only 24!
 
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He said in regulation... as in we have 0 wins, 1 loss, and went to OT 5 times

I think I get what @Bleedred is complaining about, OT in some form has always existed. (Well I don’t know about the very early NHL lol.)

I think technically Shoot-Outs are the fake wins?

I do get confused at what exactly I’m supposed to shake my cane at with this issue.
 
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If it's a long post, I think we're permitted by American law to refrain from reading it. That being said, @Triumph has had a longtime pastime of critical replies to my posts, which is all well and good and also clearly permitted by American law.


You are absolutely a genius. No one disputes this.


I personally find you in particular unlumpable.
We miss your regular contributions. Hopefully all is well with you.
 
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