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Frederic or Geekie are not being added to a starting goalie all for a 10th pick. I know I know he's expiring but that's likely getting changed the day after the trade is complete.
News: Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie
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dredeye
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Why can't you talk extension with either goalie if given permission? If memory serves you just can't sign until the 1st but I don't see why that would be of any concern.
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Tough to take the front office seriously. It's almost like they manage by the whims of social media; with no regards to the long-term or short-term needs of the club.
No goalie is going to be successful playing with the Devils roster as it is currently constructed. And the team is far from being a contender as it currently plays; with or without a shiny toy goaltender.
No goalie is going to be successful playing with the Devils roster as it is currently constructed. And the team is far from being a contender as it currently plays; with or without a shiny toy goaltender.
You ain’t giving both Geekie and Frederic a raise after next season. Those two, Heinen, Zacha and Coyle all play pretty redundant games. Protect the puck, win board battles, make smart plays. Sure Zacha can shoot harder, or Coyle can puck protect the best, but they are all guys who are gonna grab 35-45 points if deployed on the third line with no PP time and it’s all too redundant.
You don’t make the deal unless 10OA is going out in another deal that brings in a forward that bring in a different element.
Ledge And Dairy
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They can talk to players if given permission. During that talk, they can presumably be given permission to talk about signing an extension. Come to an agreement, come to an agreement with the other team for a trade, and then finalize the paperwork on the first.
Of course the problem is that agreement is not official until the first and a side can still back out beforehand.
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Because even the clubs they are currently on can't talk until they enter the last yr of their current deals, which start on July 1
The problem with Marky is hes a head case and will never lead a team to a cup, it's not in his DNA.
Even when he has a fantastic game he often loses focus and allows a bad goal and he often allows a goal on the 1st couple of shots which often rattles him. He also tends to give up goals 6on5.
Bottom line he's not a big game goalie and the devil's would be much better trying to get ullmark.
Scintillating10
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Habs could offer Primeau and Jets pick?I really hope the Flames are in on this, getting Tij Iginla and one of the D would be huge.
Make a package.
Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie | NHL.com
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Scintillating10
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Devils wouldn't give up 10 for 35 year old goalie. Give up young asset like that they will want goalie with term.
SKNJD9
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Ugh, gonna be a long month lol
I really don't get this fascination with youth. How on Earth is Mont better than Markstrom?
NJ wants Markstrom for what he can provide right now, not what he can provide 4 years from now.
The most recent thing he could provide was 10 straight games of sub .900 play. He’ll be turning 35 in the middle of next season. If you don’t see why the Devils would prefer a younger goalie, not sure what to tell you.
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I think 10th overall for Markstrom is an over payment by the Devils, simple at that.
However they also have picks 28, 41, and something around 60. I imagine adding 28th to Markstrom would be a little steep for the CGY management as it only bring them up 18 spots but I don't think anyone would hate it.
The devils have 10 and then nothing until the 3rd.
Could they get creative and do something like:
To NJD: Markstrom 41 and/or 60
To CGY: 10, 80
Markstrom and one second is a pretty good offer. Markstrom and two seconds is a good offer. Markstrom and a late first is a really good offer. So they have different attack angles here. See how it plays out.
However they also have picks 28, 41, and something around 60. I imagine adding 28th to Markstrom would be a little steep for the CGY management as it only bring them up 18 spots but I don't think anyone would hate it.
The devils have 10 and then nothing until the 3rd.
Could they get creative and do something like:
To NJD: Markstrom 41 and/or 60
To CGY: 10, 80
Markstrom and one second is a pretty good offer. Markstrom and two seconds is a good offer. Markstrom and a late first is a really good offer. So they have different attack angles here. See how it plays out.
I mean he said over and over gain they are looking for a goalie. No hiding it. But, he didn't come out and say that 10OA was on the table for a goalie. Just that if they trade 10OA for a forward, that might take away from their ability to get a goalie. Which *could* mean 10OA could be on the table for a goalie OR it could mean they wouldn't be willing to trade back to back firsts or whatever.
Once again, there’s a reason why there doesn’t seem to be a single Devils fan who wants to move the 10th pick in a deal for Markstrom, yet almost every single Flames fan is proposing it. That says something about the value.
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Or because he’ll be turning 35 in the middle of this coming season. Whether you or other Flames fans want to admit, that’s a massive, massive con.
HugeInTheShire
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I'm a Devils fan living in Alberta, so I've seen a lot of Markstrom. He's not worth 10oa unless he's coming with something else and is @50%
Maybe that has something to do with his stats not being very good 3 of the past 4 years...
Plus the fact he's already 34 years old and his best days are most likely behind him.
He'd still be an upgrade for NJ, but the attraction here is not having to give up too much to get him and that he only has 2 more years of term, which aligns well if NJ ever has anything in Schmid, Daws, Malek or Poulter - whereas a Saros or Ullmark deal cost more and requires a lengthy extension on top of that.
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We’re well aware of how good he is at peak performance. But he’s not a lights out solution, he has been uneven enough to not be considered a slam dunk. And he’s older with only two years of team control. Why on earth would you give up a potential 10+ years of control for that?
This isn’t that hard.
