Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Andy99]

Even the NHL Network pundits are flabbergasted Sullivan hasn’t been fired yet lol…this is from a poster on another site:

“was watching the NHL Network last night when they had a segment on "What do the Penguins do now?" Stu Grimson and Dave Reid both mentioned how weird it was that Sullivan (whom they both praised as a coach) hadn't been canned. Grimson said that he couldn't figure out how KD hasn't done "what 31 other teams would have done before this..." which is fire the coach. They both mentioned how regardless of how good a coach is that teams just need a change sometimes, and that this is one of those times.

Reid in particular was critical of the Eller trade saying that he was one of the few who seemed to care at this point, and that the way he was playing the Pens could probably have gotten more at the deadline. He did mention that they have some untradeable contracts and guys who no one would want right now, so maybe he was the only chip that could go at the moment. It was interesting - and in line with what most on this board have been saying for longer than we wanted - to see guys on the NHL Network basically saying that we're all not crazy in saying that you fire the coach first, then you see what you need to do next. I think not firing Sullivan is part of the reason we all are feeling that this team is spinning its wheels between admitting it's time to rebuild and keeping up the company line of "we're not that far off and Sully is the one to get us over the top." Rip the band-aid off, for expletives' sake! I'm ready. I can handle bad hockey if it's for an ultimate rebuild. I cannot handle bad hockey that comes from a stale group led by a stale coach”

 

[Sike Mullivan]

Reid in particular was critical of the Eller trade saying that he was one of the few who seemed to care at this point, and that the way he was playing the Pens could probably have gotten more at the deadline.

is there gonna be a Cared/60 stat now?

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

What I just can't understand is why players suck here and go to other teams and are great or are great on other teams and suck when they get here. If only there were people employed by the organization who's job it was to get the most out of the players.

 

[Come on]

Time for Dubas and Sullivan to go.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Haha are they calling up Poulin and Jarry just to sit both? Nice.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Time for Dubas and Sullivan to go.

TBH, I haven't even watched a game this year. Im not going to bother anything but checking here and boxscores until change at the top happens.

There's not enough time or money in life to blindly support my favorite teams when they clearly don't care to fight for me.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It really is just baffling how Sullivan's kept his job for so long. Genuinely cannot understand how he's able to remain entirely immune to criticism or being held accountable.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Haha are they calling up Poulin and Jarry just to sit both? Nice.

You gotta ease players back into the lineup, unless they're Sullivan's Special Boy™ Rust, then they immediately get 20 minutes and top PP time.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

You gotta ease players back into the lineup, unless they're Sullivan's Special Boy™ Rust, then they immediately get 20 minutes and top PP time.

Hey you can't argue with results... why mess with a formula that is getting you results like losing by a f***ing touchdown?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Haha are they calling up Poulin and Jarry just to sit both? Nice.

Do they even have the ability to have Poulin as a scratch? They only have 12 forwards on the roster right now I believe.

With Eller gone, they have 12 F, 7 D and 3 G on the roster.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Do they even have the ability to have Poulin as a scratch? They only have 12 forwards on the roster right now I believe.

With Eller gone, they have 12 F, 7 D and 3 G on the roster.

Sully will put Jarry as 4LW

It's not a bad idea

Jarry has more career goals than the rest of the 4th line

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Hey you can't argue with results... why mess with a formula that is getting you results like losing by a f***ing touchdown?

I shudder to think of what might happen if they fired Sully and ended up with a dipshit coach, man. They might miss the playoffs or risk landing a guy who can't/won't coach prospects.

What's that? To shreds you say...

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Do they even have the ability to have Poulin as a scratch? They only have 12 forwards on the roster right now I believe.

With Eller gone, they have 12 F, 7 D and 3 G on the roster.

Actually not too sure... I keep forgetting that Glass is out longish term even though Dubas name dropped him yesterday as a guy they want to potentially move up the lineup (along with Acciari lol)

I do know Ned is starting for sure.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Excited to see what kinda bullshit Dubas can manifest when he does his best Hextall impression after dumping Eller + Petts and turning the saved cap into some horrendous fit that Sullivan inevitably uses in the dumbest f***ing way imaginable.

 

[Gurglesons]

Actually not too sure... I keep forgetting that Glass is out longish term even though Dubas name dropped him yesterday as a guy they want to potentially move up the lineup (along with Acciari lol)

I do know Ned is starting for sure.

He is a concussion. So could be out for a day or 18 weeks as we know.

Excited to see what kinda bullshit Dubas can manifest when he does his best Hextall impression after dumping Eller + Petts and turning the saved cap into some horrendous fit that Sullivan inevitably uses in the dumbest f***ing way imaginable.

Darnell Nurse is a Soo.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

He is a concussion. So could be out for a day or 18 weeks as we know.

Seems about right.

 

[MeinerEiner]

According to LeBrun the Sabres are looking to make a big trade. Rakell? Pettersson?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

According to LeBrun the Sabres are looking to make a big trade. Rakell? Pettersson?

They already have 3 high end LD. I imagine they trade one for a RD.

Rakell can play both wings but is more of a right Wing where they need left wings or an upgrade at 2C to move Cozens to LW.

I don't think our top 2 assets we can move easily are what they want.

If DOC or Bunting could start playing well maybe they'd be an option.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

According to LeBrun the Sabres are looking to make a big trade. Rakell? Pettersson?

Rakell and EK!!! Do it Dubas

Helenius and picks please!!

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Regarding Dubas not firing Sullivan, I think the potential logic is that Dubas believes Sullivan's presence keeps Crosby, Malkin, and Letang comfortable and willing to stick around. In turn, their presence hypothetically could help young players to learn their work ethic and what it takes to win. For all their faults, Sid, Geno, and Letang do work incredibly hard to maintain their bodies and withstand the grind of the season as much as possible and still compete at a high level.

I think if Dubas felt that Sullivan had lost the core, Sullivan would be gone.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Darnell Nurse is a Soo.

... Oh... Oh no....

 

[Khelandros]

People need to get it into their heads that Dubas does not have the power to fire Sullivan without FSG approving it first. You think he is the GM and President because he was the best guy for the job?
He is both because no one would take the job to be a lame duck GM acting on the whims of a coach that is in bed with the owner.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Regarding Dubas not firing Sullivan, I think the potential logic is that Dubas believes Sullivan's presence keeps Crosby, Malkin, and Letang comfortable and willing to stick around. In turn, their presence hypothetically could help young players to learn their work ethic and what it takes to win. For all their faults, Sid, Geno, and Letang do work incredibly hard to maintain their bodies and withstand the grind of the season as much as possible and still compete at a high level.

I think if Dubas felt that Sullivan had lost the core, Sullivan would be gone.

Is part of Kyle's plan to make Malkin and Letang "comfortable" include saying the whole roster is up for trade including them?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Regarding Dubas not firing Sullivan, I think the potential logic is that Dubas believes Sullivan's presence keeps Crosby, Malkin, and Letang comfortable and willing to stick around. In turn, their presence hypothetically could help young players to learn their work ethic and what it takes to win. For all their faults, Sid, Geno, and Letang do work incredibly hard to maintain their bodies and withstand the grind of the season as much as possible and still compete at a high level.

I think if Dubas felt that Sullivan had lost the core, Sullivan would be gone.

This would be a mistake by Dubas if he keeps Sullivan just to keep the core happy.

I'm already fully on board with trading Letang if you can get futures for him and I'm inching more and more to asking Geno and Sid if they're willing to consider a trade as well.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The core's under contract. If Sully's only around to make 'em feel comfortable, they need to be made uncomfortable. f*** 'em.