Value of: David Jiricek

bandwagonesque

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To CBJ:
AZ ‘24 1st
AZ ‘24 2nd
Soderstrom

To AZ:
Jiricek

To Chicago:
:hawks
-David Jiricek

To Columbus:
:cbj
-Lukas Reichel
-Wyatt Kaiser
-the rights to Roman Kantserov
-2024 Tampa 1st round pick
-2024 Chicago 2nd round pick
-2024 LA 2nd round pick
-2024 Vancouver 2nd round pick

Columbus Blue Jackets
Ryan Reaves
Nick Robertson
Easton Cowan
Topi Niemelä
2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Dennis Hildeby

Toronto Maple Leafs
Boone Jenner
David Jircek

I'd do Willander and this year's 1st

Blackhawks offer 2024 Tampa 1st rd pick, 2024 2nd rd pick (currently #33) 2025 1st rd pick, Lucas Reichel, and Wyatt Kaiser or Nolan Allen.
None of these are close. If there are picks in your offer, it probably isn't adequate.
 

pf8363

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Owen Power makes too much sense. Can never be Buffalo’s 1LD with Dahlin there. And Ryan Johnson looks like a sure fire top 4 LHD as well
 

GettingYourMoms

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Owen Power makes too much sense. Can never be Buffalo’s 1LD with Dahlin there. And Ryan Johnson looks like a sure fire top 4 LHD as well
Power and Jiricek are not the same calibre players talent-wise and position-wise and looking how are you dealing with Kulich i am not sure i would want to see him with Sabres. Both should be getting the f away from their teams.
 

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Power and Jiricek are not the same calibre players talent-wise and position-wise and looking how are you dealing with Kulich i am not sure i would want to see him with Sabres. Both should be getting the f away from their teams.
Though you don't like how Buffalo is handling Kulich, he seemingly has no problem with it and knows they're doing what's best for him

 

majormajor

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Power and Jiricek are not the same calibre players talent-wise and position-wise and looking how are you dealing with Kulich i am not sure i would want to see him with Sabres. Both should be getting the f away from their teams.

I almost posted a question about which prospect was supposed to be higher caliber than the other, and then I remembered who I was replying to.

Though you don't like how Buffalo is handling Kulich, he seemingly has no problem with it and knows they're doing what's best for him


Kulich will end up with a better career from playing this year in all situations in the AHL. Impatient fans keep getting it backwards.
 

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None of these are close. If there are picks in your offer, it probably isn't adequate.
10th overall and 42nd overall and Soderstrom for Jiricek might not be enough. But it’s got to be close. I’d add a future 2nd probably. Nobody is going to offer a top 5 pick and more. It just won’t happen.
 

rt

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Seriously. The sole and exclusive reason anybody is taking this as anything at all other than "player is disappointed at going to the AHL" is because it's Columbus and folks don't believe we have a right to exist and have our own guys. That's it. That's all it is.
I’m a Yotes fan. We get kicked around, too.

This isn’t a player disappointed to be going to the AHL. It’s a rookie going to the press and lampooning his team’s coaching and management decisions when it comes to his own development.

That’s newsworthy. That’s going to get a ton of attention no matter which market.

His coach’s tone-deaf and pompous retorts are gasoline on the fire. Comparing him to a spoiled 13 year old girl? That ain’t good, man. This is definitely worth talking about. And not because Columbus is an easy target but because this is juicy story.
 

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None of these are close. If there are picks in your offer, it probably isn't adequate.
The Blackhawks offering 2 firsts, #33, 2-3 high end top of the line up blue chip prospects is more than the Seth jones trade itself… That’s a bit crazy


You do know that this isn’t a real negotiation, right? I said what I think he’s worth.
Wait the f*** up you all don’t work for the hawks/jackets?

I am so getting fired for this
 

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Apparently the Blue Jackets were highly interested in Will Smith but got Fantilli instead. I don't know if that means the ship on Smith has sailed, but that's a realistic* starting point, at least from a Sharks perspective

*Realistic if real life and Mike Grier didn't exist.
 
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majormajor

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I’m a Yotes fan. We get kicked around, too.

This isn’t a player disappointed to be going to the AHL. It’s a rookie going to the press and lampooning his team’s coaching and management decisions when it comes to his own development.

That’s newsworthy. That’s going to get a ton of attention no matter which market.

Forgive me but I don't see how this isn't also a case of a young player whining about not getting what he wants. A kid who, in my opinion, isn't NHL ready, just got sent down to the AHL, where he'll be in a better position to develop. And now he's complaining about it. The team certainly handled it poorly, but this is at core a kid upset that he's getting sent to the AHL.
 
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tiburon12

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Of course that's how it has to go. Because otherwise there's no greedy poaching dreams to be had.


Seriously. The sole and exclusive reason anybody is taking this as anything at all other than "player is disappointed at going to the AHL" is because it's Columbus and folks don't believe we have a right to exist and have our own guys. That's it. That's all it is.
yea that's a pretty reductive way to look at this situation, even if your sentiment is correct that people look down on CBJ. But there are plenty of other reasons.

If you take of those Columbus Blue Glasses you'll see what a mess your franchise has been in the last year. Babcock was a massive mistake and was replaced by another mistake that's resulting in Gaudreau and Laine having their worst seasons, Merzlikins wanting a trade then redacting it, Johnson going up and down, etc. And on top of that you have a franchise that has only made the playoffs 6x and won 1 round (thank Torts for that one) in its existence and has a continuing history of poor drafting / development. The composite of that doesn't instill much confidence in the org, does it? I don't mean to shit on the org, but ignoring all of these things is a little curious.

So maybe a few of those are reasons why Jiricek being unhappy and frustrated is lighting a few bulbs around the league. In other words, if CBJ was close to having it's house in order and not death marching their GM to the end of the season, would this be brought up this way? probably not.
 

Petes2424

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Unfortunately when a young player makes comments like he has, go back and look at those players, and their success rate. Every person I’ve ever known in the game, would say the same exact thing (to him) after his comments…. “Now you know exactly why you’re being sent back to the AHL.”

Raw talent doesn’t mean very much. He’s talented. We can all see it. He’s also lost (on the ice) half the time, plays confident when he shouldn’t, and apprehensive when he should be playing confident. They also protect him quite a bit. Not shelter, but protect him.

His situation has nothing to do with where he was drafted, and even less to do with Korchinski or other players from his draft year.

If fans have learned anything this year about young dmen, they now know why LA and Detroit marinate kids. The kids in NJ, Anaheim, Chicago, Jiricek, etc, show us every night why they aren’t very good yet. Now, most of them also show us why they are going to be very good, as well. They make a lot of mistakes though.

Kid has a lot to learn, and obviously has maturity issues, when it comes to being a professional. He needs to shut his mouth, go to Cleveland, get his game in order, and come back with loads of confidence.

You can ruin really good, young dmen, playing them too soon in the NHL… For a variety of reasons. One of which, he suffers from… You don’t take care of some of the basics, because you’re constantly concentrating on what you do well, more than what you have to work at.

Out of all these young dmen this year, the only one who’s not being protected every game, has been Hughes. So when a kid like this goes running his mouth to the first reporter he can find, he doesn’t even understand he’s being protected out there, and still needs basic work.

Look how many years Tampa protected Sergachev. Didn’t have to, but chose to. It wasn’t because he couldn’t carry a pair already. It’s because when they handed him that responsibility, they wanted him to perform at the highest level.

Provorov is a great example, of a player who could’ve been so much better than he is, if he was properly developed. If he was marinated more, he could’ve been a special player. He only ever got better, on the things he already did well, because he never had the time to really work on those other areas of his game.

Someone this kid respects, needs to have a long talk with him. Obviously he doesn’t have a lot of respect for the people in Columbus.

He needs to play in the AHL for an extended period here. To concentrate on getting better, at every element of his game.

Unfortunately these situation rarely work out for the player. Everyone in the NHL is super talented. Most busts are almost all attitude related. The player thinks he’s all that, and is blind to his faults.

Columbus has to be super professional with this kid now, before they lose him mentally. Put him on a very detailed program, and make him follow it. It’ll be interesting how he plays in his first game back in Cleveland.
 

oceanchild

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Geez, this isn’t the first grade A prospect that has been angry with this organization this year. It’s a horrible team, with some of the worst contracts in the league, run by clowns… I would trade Hronek at the draft for him and KJ and help the Jackets make the playoffs next year, the Canucks manage the cap and two young high potentials change area codes.

Obviously CBJ managment and coaches should all be fired before ever considering trading Jiricek.....

But I'd I'd trade RFA Hronek for him straight up.
I would want a bit more than him for Hronek myself.
 

TBF1972

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I didn’t think the number 2OA would be so insulting. Didn’t realize that CBJ was in win now mode. Best of luck with your lofty aspirations.
i assume you are blackhawks fan and chicago is definitely not in win now mode and still you would like to get your hands on jiricek.
 

TBF1972

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To Chicago:
:hawks
-David Jiricek

To Columbus:
:cbj
-Lukas Reichel
-Wyatt Kaiser
-the rights to Roman Kantserov
-2024 Tampa 1st round pick
-2024 Chicago 2nd round pick
-2024 LA 2nd round pick
-2024 Vancouver 2nd round pick
are you looking for some bedard counter offers?
 

TBF1972

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I’m so, so confused. What is the point you’re trying to make?

(In case you’re being serious… there is a humongous difference between driving a tractor and driving a car. Like, massive difference. An 11 year old on a tractor is cute. A 13 year old driving a car in a city is f***ing terrifying.)
I agree.

At that age they still get so distracted when they put on their lip gloss while driving.
 

paulmm3

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This seems to be mostly a problem between Jarmo and Jiricek from what I've read - and Jarmo is definitely less valuable to Columbus than Jiricek is. Most likely resolution has to be that Jarmo is gone pretty soon and then we re-evaluate the situation.
 

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