Except neither Pfizer or Moderna skipped animal trials
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Except neither Pfizer or Moderna skipped animal trials
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
you are correct. it was Whafflewhipper. I apologize for mis-quoting him as you.
Sorry. (truly)
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I think it will end up being a disclaimer you check on the site, kind of like those disclaimer on porn or onlyfans where they always ask are you 18 or older.
The point is not skipping trials, the point is if animal trials take three months, you cannot shorten it even if you have unlimited resources. Now I don’t know how long animals and human trials are usually for a vaccine, but I doubt it is within 9months.
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
Criminal Lawyers. Those who determine the fate of others is another example. There are many professions that I automatically accept their intelligence based on their credentials.
And I have a hard time with front line doctors and medical staff lining up to get the vaccine, knowing they face all the same repercussions as the "internet experts", but still getting the vaccine none the less.
Reason why they are hero's.
They understand medical vaccines better than almost anyone...and they are getting the vaccines. (and getting them first)
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
the general public can buy a ticket to any event.
Doesn't mean they are going to be let in.
They didn't skip the trials. The other reason it was expedited was because they did the animal testing simultaneously with human trials, and both passed without issues. Nothing was shortened
The vaccine does not stop the spread and you still need to wear a mask
It’s pointless unless you are 80+
It’s pointless unless you are 80+
Never said they skip trails.
Even if they did both trials at the same time, is 9months enough? Like I said, I don’t know the standard practice of vaccine trails and how long it usually takes. 9 months is really quick. Side effects don’t show within a few months.
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
if it's pointless, then why are people starting to get vaccinated across the world, 'now'?
are they all wrong? Sheep? Stupid?
and do you know more than everyone who is choosing to get vaccinated?
(see hanging jowl, this is what I'm talking about)
Being intelligent doesn't make you competent or bestow you with common sense, intelligent people do dumb **** as well
I've had a cousin die at the age of 32 because of a missed cancer diagnosis so whilst I'm appreciative of medical professionals I'm not going to bestow them with special powers because "intelligence"
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
and that is your choice.
but I will argue that competence in the direct field of their expertise can be expected. I expect that medical front line workers have a better ability to evaluate the ramifications of taking the vaccine in the same way I would expect a criminal lawyer to be to evaluate a simple contract.
and for that reason I look to medical professionals to see what they are doing...and they are getting the vaccination, and getting it now.
1/3 are being honest... real number is much higher for sure
Nearly one-third of Canadians plan holiday gatherings despite pandemic restrictions: poll
Nearly one-third of Canadians plan holiday gatherings despite pandemic restrictions: poll
PromisedLand
I need more FOOD
there is not enough data to show that vaccines will eliminate transmission of covid though; only that if you take the vaccine chances of you developing severe illness requiring hospitalization/ICU goes down
but you can still get infected or transmit covid even if you get the vaccine
They've followed at least half of the participants (that's out of 43,000 people who were in the study) for two months following the vaccination, any adverse side effects would have already shown signs
You bring up a very interesting point.
LASIK is an eye surgery and in short help people not to wear glasses. My wife had it and a lot of my friends also had it but one interesting fact, it seems like the doctors, nurses and assistants working at these LASIK clinics all wear glasses. I told my wife to ask her doc about that and she just told me the Doc said she is used to wearing Glasses....
Not discrediting you in anyway and I agree with you assessment.
I think eventually I will take the vaccine but need to see how it plays out with side effects and stuff first.
Kind of like flu shot. You might still get the flu but the chances is lower.
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
be thankful you have the option to "wait and see how it plays out".
because there are many who can't.
I use the example of doctors and other front line medical professionals. At least they are being paid handsomely (for the most part).
Just wait until the PSW's, RPN's, and other homecare workers, who don't get paid NEARLY what they should, are forced to get it. Lawyers have already weighed in and advised they will lose their job if they refuse....with no recourse.
PromisedLand
I need more FOOD
pretty much but covid has been more deadlier than flu and also spreads at a faster rate than flu and has shown to have health impacts even if you survive.
this virus is new and we still dont know much about it.
Did you look at the deaths in the US today?
I am just glad we weren't as thick as our neighbours to the south (except Alberta; i feel bad for them kenny is a pos)
you need to continue to wear a mask and socially distance after you get the vaccine
So stupid.. I’ll pass until no more masks
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
Albertamerica is closer to a US state than a Canadian province.
I look at it as, maybe I'll get a side effect from taking the vaccine. But it likely won't be as bad, or long lasting, as getting Covid.
I could get Covid and not get sick. I could get the vaccine and feel no side effects.
The quicker we get everyone vaccinated, the sooner we can get back to a normal life.
I look at it as, maybe I'll get a side effect from taking the vaccine. But it likely won't be as bad, or long lasting, as getting Covid.
I could get Covid and not get sick. I could get the vaccine and feel no side effects.
The quicker we get everyone vaccinated, the sooner we can get back to a normal life.
I think that’s the problem, should it be force on people who wishes not to take the vaccine?
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
that is correct.
But you have to wear a mask now, and socially distance now.
so by getting the vaccine you are hastening the process of moving towards "no more masks". You can be part of the solution, or part of the problem.
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