Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part VIII - The Long Winter is Here

[waingr0]

no worries.

I don't have disdain for the millions smarter than me.

You literally just said most humans are a waste of flesh. And now we're supposed to believe you care about what's best for them?

 

[Pink Mist]

Anti-vaccine aside.
I have no problem with Countries needing to you to have certain vaccine before entering and to some extend, I am fine with it to attend sporting events or other stuff. My problem and I think most here are having the same problem is how safe is the vaccine? Is it being rush? What are the side effects?
Bc time is something you cannot buy in this case.

Yes you can buy time, that is what they literally did. Normally new vaccines take years to make due to lack of funding, not due to the time required to actually research and develop it. With this covid vaccine there has a basically unlimited funding for the vaccine which has helped expedite it's development.

 

[Canadian Finn]

You literally just said most humans are a waste of flesh. And now we're supposed to believe you care about what's best for them?

Sorry. Where did I say I care about what's best for you (or anyone else)?

 

[waingr0]

Sorry. Where did I say I care about what's best for you (or anyone else)?

You were insinuating that I don't care about millions of people that are smarter than me due to my covid beliefs.

 

[Canadian Finn]

I think you got your insinuations crossed.

 

[waingr0]

I think you got your insinuations crossed.

Then what did you mean by "I don't have disdain for the millions smarter than me."

 

[Canadian Finn]

exactly as it reads.

I never look down at anyone who is smarter than me.

You have two kinds of people in society. First type is "we are all equal. no one is smarter than another". The other type recognizes no matter how dumb you are, there is someone dumber. No matter how smart you are, there is someone smarter.

To determine what path you take depends on whether you have disdain for those smarter, or whether you can appreciate they are smarter, and try to learn from those who are smarter.

There are brain surgeons, front line doctors, and those WAY smarter than me (like I'm not even in the same stratosphere as them). I tend to follow their lead instead of some twitter link or other 'internet source'.

You choose your own path.

Choose carefully.

 

[Kiwi]

Oh I agree, I don't put banking or financial information on my phone. So not putting health information there either.

I'm tight as ****
You want to steal my money your going to work for it

 

[Clark4Ever]

Exactly. Sadly, there is no money to be made in prevention and precious little research on non-patentable (aka non-profitable) solutions. I started taking Vitamin D3 a dozen years ago because I had annual recurring bouts of bronchitis/pneumonia and/or strep throat.....I would end up with one or more of those on an annual basis. Since then, I have been sick exactly once, and that was because I had (stupidly) been off Vitamin D3 for over 6 months. I got very sick this February, but high dose Vitamin D3 and Zinc knocked it right out of my system inside 48 hours with no side effects except feeling good.

Cost the taxpayers nothing. No drugs, no hospital visit. Cost me under $10.

Good for you. My family and I get lots of Vitamin D during the summer months being outside, and we take the oral drops during the winter months. It makes a huge difference.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Nice post gave me a chuckle which we all need ... some of these guys on CNN are so far left it is incredible ... da biggest problem in US today people are so polarized on left or right they forget about facts and logic

I lost so much respect for all of their anchors since Trump was elected that I can't even watch them anymore. They have zero credibility in my eyes.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

permanently.

right.

those who are advocating against vaccinating will be distracted by a shiny light, or other form of simplistic distraction. Most humans are wastes of flesh, and will sell their soul for $10 dollars off something.

I'm not sure a business can do ANYTHING to permanently alienate a customer.

Who exactly have you seen advocating against vaccinating? I haven't seen anyone doing that at all. You wouldn't happen to be confusing people personally not wanting to be vaccinated with the idea they are against others getting vaccinated, would you?

 

[Kiwi]

exactly as it reads.

I never look down at anyone who is smarter than me.

You have two kinds of people in society. First type is "we are all equal. no one is smarter than another". The other type recognizes no matter how dumb you are, there is someone dumber. No matter how smart you are, there is someone smarter.

To determine what path you take depends on whether you have disdain for those smarter, or whether you can appreciate they are smarter, and try to learn from those who are smarter.

There are brain surgeons, front line doctors, and those WAY smarter than me (like I'm not even in the same stratosphere as them). I tend to follow their lead instead of some twitter link or other 'internet source'.

You choose your own path.

Choose carefully.

Which expert's? because they aren't a monolithic block and when the people and organizations your learning from start contradicting themselves what do you do?

Then I'm going to try to retain as many civil liberties as possible and argue against running up debt because I want future generations to have a better quality of life than me

I'm not as keen on the virtue signalling and moral grandstanding than you obviously are

 

[Canadian Finn]

Who exactly have you seen advocating against vaccinating? I haven't seen anyone doing that at all. You wouldn't happen to be confusing people personally not wanting to be vaccinated with the idea they are against others getting vaccinated, would you?

Nope. I'm looking at those who are choosing to be immediately vaccinated, looking at who they are, their credentials, their intelligence, then comparing them to the "The Hanging Jowl's" comments.

I'm making my decisions accordingly.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

My father is a veteran, and is actually a Legion member (his local is Limeridge Road here in Hamilton).

He told me yesterday he will be getting the vaccine as soon as it is offered to him.

Once you have fought in war, and have seen real death, getting pricked twice by a needle isn't scary. They went to war to protect their country. My father understands getting a vaccine is doing the same thing.

Your father is a hero and I have nothing but respect for him. But equating his sacrifice with getting vaccinated may be the most hilarious thing I've read in a while.

 

[Sens]

Hahahah
Still need to wear masks after you get vaccinated
What a joke
This is why you will still need to wear a mask after being vaccinated

 

[Sens]

Why would I need a proof of vaccination if I still need to wear a mask

Stupid hahaha

 

[Gabriel426]

Yes you can buy time, that is what they literally did. Normally new vaccines take years to make due to lack of funding, not due to the time required to actually research and develop it. With this covid vaccine there has a basically unlimited funding for the vaccine which has helped expedite it's development.

You can buy time on research and development since if you have money, you can hire two, three or more times the people to run R & D 24/7. But you can’t buy time in trails. If it takes 3 months to test on animals, that’s 3 months, you cannot shorten that no matter how much money you have.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Your father is a hero and I have nothing but respect for him. But equating his sacrifice with getting vaccinated may be the most hilarious thing I've read in a while.

Oh, I completely agree with you there. But you suggested walk into a Legion and suggest to the vets to get a vaccine. You'd find they have sacrificed MUCH MORE for others. As such, getting a vaccine isn't nearly what some are making it out to be.

I got your point. But I think your example of "a Legion" was off the mark.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I think you got your insinuations crossed.

You need to learn where the reply button is. Just sayin'.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

no worries.

I don't have disdain for the millions smarter than me.

Yet you showed disdain for me.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Nope. I'm looking at those who are choosing to be immediately vaccinated, looking at who they are, their credentials, their intelligence, then comparing them to the "The Hanging Jowl's" comments.

I'm making my decisions accordingly.

How do you know how intelligent they are? Are you equating credentials with intelligence? Genuinely curious.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Oh, I completely agree with you there. But you suggested walk into a Legion and suggest to the vets to get a vaccine. You'd find they have sacrificed MUCH MORE for others. As such, getting a vaccine isn't nearly what some are making it out to be.

I got your point. But I think your example of "a Legion" was off the mark.

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I've never mentioned the word "legion" on these forums. If you're interested though, I donated $100 to the Legion on Nov 11 this year.

 

[Canadian Finn]

How do you know how intelligent they are? Are you equating credentials with intelligence? Genuinely curious.

credentials, such as the ability work operate on ones brain, or provide life saving surgery (the examples I used) is a direct correlation to intelligence. Yes.

Front lines medical staff all have high levels of intelligence.

 

[Nineteen67]

public events =/= private events.

(you do understand that, correct?)

The general public can buy tickets to attend.

Again, it makes no sense why a business would even bother checking it’s customers for vaccination records. Why would they even care?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

credentials, such as the ability work operate on ones brain, or provide life saving surgery (the examples I used) is a direct correlation to intelligence. Yes.

Front lines medical staff all have high levels of intelligence.

Can you give more examples? Exactly which credentials do you equate with intelligence?