Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part VIII - The Long Winter is Here

[kb]

That is too bad really ... it will change da world as we know it especially life in Ontario ... even monitoring and policing it will be a huge challenge ... looks like a whole new industry is gettin created here ... what happens if you leave your card at home by accident and go to work then Leaf game and only realize when you give your ticket to get in ... oh sorry sir we can't let you in ... it is one of those things which is easy to proclaim but difficult to police

It is a case that can be made 2 ways - either discrimination, or a charter of rights violation.

 

[Nineteen67]

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“One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes.”

That’s rich for CNN.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

That’s rich for CNN.

Nice post gave me a chuckle which we all need ... some of these guys on CNN are so far left it is incredible ... da biggest problem in US today people are so polarized on left or right they forget about facts and logic

 

[PuckMagi]

I haven't had a vaccine in almost 20 years. I don't plan on getting this one.

I also don't want to get COVID, so I'm hoping everyone else takes the vaccine so that I can be protected by herd immunity.

 

[Gabriel426]

Nice post gave me a chuckle which we all need ... some of these guys on CNN are so far left it is incredible ... da biggest problem in US today people are so polarized on left or right they forget about facts and logic

Reading the CNN bits is like they are admitting people taking the vaccine now is actually on trial and we expect there will be side effects which includes death, but don’t worry-we know this will happen- pls continue to take the vaccine in order for us to have a greater sample size to improve future vaccine where we will generate more money.

 

[Nineteen67]

Its simply true. If you live in north America,the only time you are not Vitamin D3 deficient is summer. June july and August and thats if you ate out enough. Soon as we lose sunlight we go deficient. I take it too. Really good for you. I don’t take Zinc. Maybe i should research that.

This site is legit. Lots of great info on vitamin D3 here. The VitaminD Society
What we know about low Vitamin D levels and high Covid-19 rates

I read a while back that taking your vitamins at bedtime helps you sleep better and that sleep helps with natural healing. Before bed, I have a cup of green tea and take my cocktail (zinc, D3, C, melatonin and 1/2 daily multivitamin) and I have had some nights that I don’t even move.

I’ve been feeling great for several months.

 

[Nineteen67]

Nice post gave me a chuckle which we all need ... some of these guys on CNN are so far left it is incredible ... da biggest problem in US today people are so polarized on left or right they forget about facts and logic

When a 92 yr old dieds with Covid-19 and pneumonia they act like the world is ending.

 

[Nineteen67]

I haven't had a vaccine in almost 20 years. I don't plan on getting this one.

I also don't want to get COVID, so I'm hoping everyone else takes the vaccine so that I can be protected by herd immunity.

these vaccines don’t work so you may get the sniffles.

 

[kb]

Reading the CNN bits is like they are admitting people taking the vaccine now is actually on trial and we expect there will be side effects which includes death, but don’t worry-we know this will happen- pls continue to take the vaccine in order for us to have a greater sample size to improve future vaccine where we will generate more money.

It's mass testing on the general public, since it entirely skipped the animal testing phase, and the long-term assessment phase. No mRNA vaccine or drug has ever received approval for usage before, yet this one was AND was allowed to skip those steps.

There is no medical nor ethical justification that can ever be made for this.

 

[HolyCrap]

I read a while back that taking your vitamins at bedtime helps you sleep better and that sleep helps with natural healing. Before bed, I have a cup of green tea and take my cocktail (zinc, D3, C, melatonin and 1/2 daily multivitamin) and I have had some nights that I don’t even move.

I’ve been feeling great for several months.

I do something similar. Shot of NyQuil with a vitamin. A six pack of beer. Lights out.

 

[Walshy7]

That is too bad really ... it will change da world as we know it especially life in Ontario ... even monitoring and policing it will be a huge challenge ... looks like a whole new industry is gettin created here ... what happens if you leave your card at home by accident and go to work then Leaf game and only realize when you give your ticket to get in ... oh sorry sir we can't let you in ... it is one of those things which is easy to proclaim but difficult to police

you have a cell phone? I’d imagine this “card” would be on your phone if you wanted it to be, scan a barcode and it tells them you’ve had the vaccine. Do they let you into a game without a ticket because you left it at home? Or a nightclub asking for ID if you left it at home?

when buying tickets you enter your unique ID from your proof of vaccine, and name on ticket must match photo ID at ticket scan I guess would be another option (eliminating scalping at the same time I guess)

There are many ways to police it without really adding any more inconvenience than there is now at games and concerts etc, now do I trust Ontario government to implement these easier ways to police it? Probably not no they’d f*** it up and everyone won’t be able to make heads or tales of what they need to in order to enter games or concerts

 

[justashadowof]

Reading the CNN bits is like they are admitting people taking the vaccine now is actually on trial and we expect there will be side effects which includes death, but don’t worry-we know this will happen- pls continue to take the vaccine in order for us to have a greater sample size to improve future vaccine where we will generate more money.

"The corporate press are factual but not truthful."

If there are actual documented direct serious side effects, there is nothing that can be done to the actual active vaccinating entity to make it safer without starting the project over from scratch. The side effects caused by other components in the vaccine by definition should be mild because these chemical entities would all have been listed by the USP for decades and approved as safe for injection by FDA. You should see the same frequency of reactions (and severity) as any known safe vaccine (not many but not zero).

 

[JT AM da real deal]

you have a cell phone? I’d imagine this “card” would be on your phone if you wanted it to be, scan a barcode and it tells them you’ve had the vaccine. Do they let you into a game without a ticket because you left it at home? Or a nightclub asking for ID if you left it at home?

when buying tickets you enter your unique ID from your proof of vaccine, and name on ticket must match photo ID at ticket scan I guess would be another option (eliminating scalping at the same time I guess)

There are many ways to police it without really adding any more inconvenience than there is now at games and concerts etc, now do I trust Ontario government to implement these easier ways to police it? Probably not no they’d f*** it up and everyone won’t be able to make heads or tales of what they need to in order to enter games or concerts

Hope it is on my cell phone yeah that would be great ... i guess giving tickets to family will become a mess too .. maybe it will slow down da reselling of tickets online and at game which may reduce prices for everyone ... but it likely will reduce availability too

 

[Nineteen67]

I do something similar. Shot of NyQuil with a vitamin. A six pack of beer. Lights out.

When the dadgum hockey season gets going I’ll do that on Saturday evenings....no NyQuil though, gives me a hangover.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I read a while back that taking your vitamins at bedtime helps you sleep better and that sleep helps with natural healing. Before bed, I have a cup of green tea and take my cocktail (zinc, D3, C, melatonin and 1/2 daily multivitamin) and I have had some nights that I don’t even move.

I’ve been feeling great for several months.

Do you find zinc gives you an extra dump? Don't mean to be rude but I have noticed it - going twice in a day not everyday but sometimes.

 

[Nineteen67]

you have a cell phone? I’d imagine this “card” would be on your phone if you wanted it to be, scan a barcode and it tells them you’ve had the vaccine. Do they let you into a game without a ticket because you left it at home? Or a nightclub asking for ID if you left it at home?

when buying tickets you enter your unique ID from your proof of vaccine, and name on ticket must match photo ID at ticket scan I guess would be another option (eliminating scalping at the same time I guess)

There are many ways to police it without really adding any more inconvenience than there is now at games and concerts etc, now do I trust Ontario government to implement these easier ways to police it? Probably not no they’d f*** it up and everyone won’t be able to make heads or tales of what they need to in order to enter games or concerts

Now ticket master needs PHI for the buyer?

the reality is the business will make sure their employees are vaccinated if they want it and they won’t care about the general public. Why would they add that layer and hassle.

 

[Nineteen67]

Do you find zinc gives you an extra dump? Don't mean to be rude but I have noticed it - going twice in a day not everyday but sometimes.

A little old man talk never hurt anyone.....I take a probiotic....so.....I’m good that way.

 

[kb]

Do you find zinc gives you an extra dump? Don't mean to be rude but I have noticed it - going twice in a day not everyday but sometimes.

That is how the human body was designed.

It's what we have today that masquerades as food that causes the "backup".

 

[kb]

Now ticket master needs PHI for the buyer?

the reality is the business will make sure their employees are vaccinated if they want it and they won’t care about the general public. Why would they add that layer and hassle.

Insurance companies will require that for coverage moving forward.

 

[Walshy7]

Now ticket master needs PHI for the buyer?

the reality is the business will make sure their employees are vaccinated if they want it and they won’t care about the general public. Why would they add that layer and hassle.

a barcode is phi? It’s essentially a barcode saying you had a vaccine if you don’t have it then you didn’t?

Don’t get the vaccine if you don’t want but if rules are you have to have it to go to a leaf game don’t complain here you can’t go it’s really that simple, same with “oh I can’t go on holiday” you are 100% in your rights to say no vaccine but if you need it to fly, again you can’t complain go get it and enjoy your holiday or don’t

perhaps they won’t enforce it then, that would be perfect for anti vaccine folks who really knows at this point.

We will have to wait and see. If you need it only for concerts/sports events or flying I probably wouldn’t bother getting it until I had to fly next. I can live without leafs games, gigs is a bit tougher but at some point I have to fly to Australia my mum has never met her grand daughter.

 

[Nineteen67]

Insurance companies will require that for coverage moving forward.

I wonder about that. Health insurers may not require it until they are certain it won’t harm people and open for law suits.

And then they may include it in their wellness criteria and offer slight discounts if you get it.

 

[Nineteen67]

a barcode is phi? It’s essentially a barcode saying you had a vaccine if you don’t have it then you didn’t?

Don’t get the vaccine if you don’t want but if rules are you have to have it to go to a leaf game don’t complain here you can’t go it’s really that simple, same with “oh I can’t go on holiday” you are 100% in your rights to say no vaccine but if you need it to fly, again you can’t complain go get it and enjoy your holiday or don’t

perhaps they won’t enforce it then, that would be perfect for anti vaccine folks who really knows at this point.

We will have to wait and see. If you need it only for concerts/sports events or flying I probably wouldn’t bother getting it until I had to fly next. I can live without leafs games, gigs is a bit tougher but at some point I have to fly to Australia my mum has never met her grand daughter.

Personal health information is PHI....Can I use the barcode off my box of cereal?

I can’t imagine the NHL , an airline or any business for that matter adding an extra layer of work and expense to try and verify if someone has a vaccine.

 

[Walshy7]

Personal health information is PHI....Can I use the barcode off my box of cereal?

I can’t imagine the NHL , an airline or any business for that matter adding an extra layer of work and expense to try and verify if someone has a vaccine.

yeah I know what phi its very obvious. Is a vaccine really personal health info? Or at least something you don’t want big bad corporations to know? You know these things won’t have access to your entire health history right?

you might be right who knows right now

 

[Sens]

Drug Details

You should not receive Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine if:
you are allergic to any of the ingredients in this vaccine (see What the medicinal ingredient is and What the non-medicinal ingredients are)

Non-medicinal ingredients:
ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate)
ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide
1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
cholesterol
dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate
monobasic potassium phosphate
potassium chloride
sodium chloride
sucrose

 

[Nineteen67]

yeah I know what phi its very obvious. Is a vaccine really personal health info? Or at least something you don’t want big bad corporations to know? You know these things won’t have access to your entire health history right?

you might be right who knows right now

Yes, it’s PHI.
Having a private company , like Ticketmaster, verify personal health information is an added expense. Why would they even care?