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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part VIII - The Long Winter is Here

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Confucius said:
Believe me I don't want to get real old. I'm 65, my mom passed away last Januaey at 95. The last 5 years were a nightmare for her. Imagine having hallucinations and fears that are unfounded, but unlike a nightmare you don't wakeup. Just repeat day after day.
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My Mom is in a care home with Dementia and ghosts for friends.

Talking to "Ghosts" at the end of her bed for hours.
 
cbbb25 said:
I have zero clue what's happening in this chat but I feel like when I enter it I need to put my tin foil hat on. Next it will be did we actually land on the moon, is Tupac really dead, did World War Two really happen, and finally the earth is flat and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise since we've actually never been in space and satellites are fake stories our grandfathers got told that somehow became accepted reality.

zero problem with a little skepticism especially viewing vaccines but what's the point of waking up in the morning if you think the worlds about to jump off a cliff together (won't own anything lol) I might as well move north now and start farming and burn my money in the wood stove since its pointless and while im at it throw away all my medicine because big Pharma and big government might be micro chipping it.
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Exactly, these people need to stop living their lives in fear
 
PromisedLand said:
is this true? did the CEO really sell 60% of his shares after they announced the 90% success rate?

Did the stocks sky-rocket after that announcement? usually, stocks go haywire after some "announcements" and then settle on an equilibrium lower than the peak (this is true for apple (i phones); google (android), facebook (whatsapp) etc...) - may be he sold it high and then will re-buy it when they come down a little meanwhile raking in some extra profit

As far a I know, based on reading and Dr. Fauci's talks to various universities in the US (these are available on youtube); the vaccines are not designed to to eliminate the virus or stop transmission; they are designed to stop the onset of immune response that goes crazy; i.e. reduce the symptoms - kind of like antihistamines we take for allergies.


Vaccines are really to protect yourself not someone else from you; it will not stop you from transmitting the virus; but it will help you fight the virus if you get it i.e. lower symptoms and less chance of you ending up in the hospital
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He sold them before the announcement.
If he waited almost guaranteed to make more.
He didn't do it to make more money.
From what I've read/seen their virus is to block the virus.
My guess is this is the first step to active nanobots.
 
CelticDruid said:
My Mom is in a care home with Dementia and ghosts for friends.

Talking to "Ghosts" at the end of her bed for hours.
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It is sad but that isn't really a nightmare. My mom would start freaking out whenever a nurse showed up. They are coming to amputate my legs help help help.
or you didn't smile nicely at the people today, now they will beat me up again and the screams and tears would flow. Nerve-wracking for all. There were many many of these type of outbursts.
 
Kiwi said:
It's amazing what you can do without pesky problems like the rule of law, human rights or civil liberties getting in the way

I think the people of Wuhan we're to afraid to do anything because they might end up with a bullet in the brain from those people you so admire
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This is totally false about what happens in China if someone does not follow protocol with the earlier lock downs.

What would happen is the offender would be sent to one of those quarantine hotels.

There was a story from Australia how people were forced into those quarantine hotels and not allowed to leave.

Confinement of people due to Covid-19 happens in your area of the world.

The Aussie and New Zealand governments learned those methods from the Chinese.
 
It is quite possible we will see vaccines in arms as soon as next week, or the week after. Some provincial agencies already knew this timeline ;)

I'll take one as soon as it is available, but I'm past child rearing years, and long term affects aren't really a concern of mine.

I hope they get the vaccine to the homes and caretakers in the homes ASAP.
As this trickles down it won't matter how stupid you are, people will be safer.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to visit your shut-ins without worrying about infecting them. It really isn't about you, it is about them.

We normally, open up a few wards each year for flu impact, but they are usually January-February, but we don't have to double up rooms, or convert Olympic stadiums into temporary hospitals.
This isn't just another flu.
 
Korg said:
Hopefully we learn from Denmark and bury them deep when they're inevitably culled.
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Wonder what China is doing with their minks? Don’t think I will be buying canned spam that is Made in China in the near future.
 
Sens said:
Ont. may not be able to vaccinate long-term care residents initially over concerns that moving product may reduce quality

Thats incredibly disappointing
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Speaking with reporters during a briefing on Monday afternoon retired General Rick Hillier, who is leading the province’s vaccine task force, said that officials have been told that the data around moving the Pfizer vaccine from the ultra-cold freezers that it will be stored in is “uncertain” and that might force the province to initially only conduct vaccinations at large vaccine centres.
That, in turn, could mean that the province will be unable to conduct a large-scale vaccination of long-term care residents and will have to focus its early efforts on the staff that work in those facilities instead.
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How the f*** does that make sense. The at-risk residents can't get them, but the employees at the same location can?
 
Korg said:
How the f*** does that make sense. The at-risk residents can't get them, but the employees at the same location can?
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the staff can go to the vaccine site while the elderly are to frail to leave ltc
 
Sens said:
the staff can go to the vaccine site while the elderly are to frail to leave ltc
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I read that, but surely we can figure out how to move a vaccine with dry ice to a different location without compromising it's integrity, given we needed to do that in the first place in order to get it to that location originally.
 
Polaris1010 said:
This is totally false about what happens in China if someone does not follow protocol with the earlier lock downs.

What would happen is the offender would be sent to one of those quarantine hotels.

There was a story from Australia how people were forced into those quarantine hotels and not allowed to leave.

Confinement of people due to Covid-19 happens in your area of the world.

The Aussie and New Zealand governments learned those methods from the Chinese.
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there was no forcing, that was the rules if you wanted to travel to or return to Australia you had to spend 14 days in a hotel at your own expense. They came and did COVID tests on day 1, day 10 and day 14 if all were negative on day 15 you could leave.
 
Korg said:
And it's the same contracting company that presided over the previous build lobbying to build them back better this time.
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You mean the contractor that created the most free, prosperous, healthy, scientific, enlightened and equitable society in the history of the world? Sounds great. Let's get 'em back to work.
 
ULF_55 said:
It is quite possible we will see vaccines in arms as soon as next week, or the week after. Some provincial agencies already knew this timeline ;)

I'll take one as soon as it is available, but I'm past child rearing years, and long term affects aren't really a concern of mine.

I hope they get the vaccine to the homes and caretakers in the homes ASAP.
As this trickles down it won't matter how stupid you are, people will be safer.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to visit your shut-ins without worrying about infecting them. It really isn't about you, it is about them.

We normally, open up a few wards each year for flu impact, but they are usually January-February, but we don't have to double up rooms, or convert Olympic stadiums into temporary hospitals.
This isn't just another flu.
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They should only vaccinate the vulnerable with multiple comorbidity and let the rest of us go.
 
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