Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part VIII - The Long Winter is Here

[justashadowof]

This whole "Build back better" campaign sounds all nice and comfy...except the way we are heading is to let the big corps get even bigger and make the disparity between the rich and poor even worse.

I can't get my products to customers in the USA because the USPS decided to give Walmart the same sweet deal they gave to Amazon. So, they prioritize the big corps packages while small guys like me suffer from customers emailing and calling about the delay in their shipments.

People nowadays are totally confused about who the bad guys are. All a big corp has to do is put a black box on their website about BLM and make a pittance donation and they are off the hook. This makes me sick. Instead...how about having a jobs program in the inner cities or something that is tangible for people. This lip service they do gives them a pass to keep our jobs over seas and make bigger profits. And yet you have people marching in the streets saying Amazon and Nike are great companies because they care...do they really or is it just good PR?

The largest corporations anointed by governments to flourish while smaller commercial ventures are marginalized to non-existence? There was a moon-faced man from about 100 years ago who called this the third way.

 

[ULF_55]

The largest corporations anointed by governments to flourish while smaller commercial ventures are marginalized to non-existence? There was a moon-faced man from about 100 years ago who called this the third way.

Do you think there should be a distribution of wealth to help heal the planet and population from COVID, other diseases and polution?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Do you think there should be a distribution of wealth to help heal the planet and population from COVID, other diseases and polution?

No.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

And so it begins.

 

[ULF_55]

No.

Chuckle

To the winner go the spoils, if it is a big conglomerate so be it?

 

[ULF_55]

And so it begins.

I support controls since I'll comply and if it gives me an edge up why not. If someone doesn't want to comply that's their choice.

Everyone should be entitled to live in a safe environment.

 

[Sens]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

If businesses are going to be responsible for ensuring people have up to date papers than they have no idea what it’s like out there

 

[Sens]

Nice of them to take two days off early so they can quarantine for two weeks and spend time with their family for Xmas

remember though average people like you and me... stay the f*** home unless you need to go to work

 

[Smif]

I support controls since I'll comply and if it gives me an edge up why not. If someone doesn't want to comply that's their choice.

Everyone should be entitled to live in a safe environment.

If it gets me to Myrtle Beach this year I'll be first in line.

 

[HolyCrap]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

I figured this would be the case. I guess this will be doable later when everyone has the opportunity to be vaccinated.

 

[cbbb25]

If businesses are going to be responsible for ensuring people have up to date papers than they have no idea what it’s like out there

Weird I don't know where you live/how you live but in my life I seem to need my ID in order to buy booze, enter a bar, my passport to leave Canada, my Visa to buy Leaf tickets, my SIN in order to work, my health card for the doctors.....but yes one more piece of paper is going to collapse the system.

Imagine this board in 2002 when passports became mandatory to leave Canada pretty much. OMG IM NEVER TRAVELLING AGAIN, THE GOVERNMENT JUST KEEPS ADDING BURDENS.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I support controls since I'll comply and if it gives me an edge up why not. If someone doesn't want to comply that's their choice.

Everyone should be entitled to live in a safe environment.

I mean, even you using the word "comply" gives me the chills.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

These a-holes can get bent.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Weird I don't know where you live/how you live but in my life I seem to need my ID in order to buy booze, enter a bar, my passport to leave Canada, my Visa to buy Leaf tickets, my SIN in order to work, my health card for the doctors.....but yes one more piece of paper is going to collapse the system.

Imagine this board in 2002 when passports became mandatory to leave Canada pretty much. OMG IM NEVER TRAVELLING AGAIN, THE GOVERNMENT JUST KEEPS ADDING BURDENS.

You really don’t see the difference?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Weird I don't know where you live/how you live but in my life I seem to need my ID in order to buy booze, enter a bar, my passport to leave Canada, my Visa to buy Leaf tickets, my SIN in order to work, my health card for the doctors.....but yes one more piece of paper is going to collapse the system.

Imagine this board in 2002 when passports became mandatory to leave Canada pretty much. OMG IM NEVER TRAVELLING AGAIN, THE GOVERNMENT JUST KEEPS ADDING BURDENS.

None of those things required me to do anything special like take a vaccine with unknown long term side effects. Very, very different.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

Weird I don't know where you live/how you live but in my life I seem to need my ID in order to buy booze, enter a bar, my passport to leave Canada, my Visa to buy Leaf tickets, my SIN in order to work, my health card for the doctors.....but yes one more piece of paper is going to collapse the system.

Imagine this board in 2002 when passports became mandatory to leave Canada pretty much. OMG IM NEVER TRAVELLING AGAIN, THE GOVERNMENT JUST KEEPS ADDING BURDENS.

That is the dumbest comparison in the world.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

This is where I put my foot down. You can’t force people to take a vaccine and put something in their bodies. It is my body and I should be able to choose what I do.

Those who are scared of COVID or are high risk or elderly then sure go right ahead and take the vaccine. They probably should. I don’t understand why I would have to take it then if those who need it take it. They will have the vaccine which should protect them from COVID correct? If I want to jump on a airplane or go see a leaf game, then those who go are either those who got the vaccine (protected) or those who didn’t and chose not to.

 

[Mickey Marner]

You can vote with your wallet, but I'm not sure how much difference it will make in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Polk High]

Ontario plans to issue proof of COVID-19 vaccination cards, health minister confirms

Could be required for travel and entering public venues article says.

As long as it's just a proof of vaccination card, like the current immunization record who cares.

Just don't make it a passport of sorts for everyday life.

 

[ULF_55]

I mean, even you using the word "comply" gives me the chills.

Yeah, x-military liberals are weird eh?

 

[cbbb25]

None of those things required me to do anything special like take a vaccine with unknown long term side effects. Very, very different.

Really? anything special how about pay hundreds for your passport which is economic discrimination (assuming you guys will argue discrimination against not getting vaccinated) against those in poverty, renewal of drivers licence. I agree that the long term effects are unknown but most of this population couldn't give a rats behind about vaping, eating McDonalds, ect..

Its your personal choice to not get the vaccine but if the private sector decides to limit participation to those who are vaccinated what's the big deal? They already limit participation to those who choose to not smoke inside restaurants or rinks. In the vaccine sense, if you don't want it that's your choice, but if you think you should be allowed in to watch the leafs beside me then I hope you'll also argue for me to be able to smoke in the rink as well.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

Look at the stats posted on ontario health office:

Its pretty simple. People over 70 definitely need the vaccine. That is the dangerous at risk people. Everyone else.....basically 3% death rate for those in the 60’s. But everyone else is like 0-1% death rate. Sorry but they don’t need the vaccine unless they are protecting those who are at high risk but they should be vaccinated (if they want to).

 

[MapleLeafs77]

Really? anything special how about pay hundreds for your passport which is economic discrimination (assuming you guys will argue discrimination against not getting vaccinated) against those in poverty, renewal of drivers licence. I agree that the long term effects are unknown but most of this population couldn't give a rats behind about vaping, eating McDonalds, ect..

Its your personal choice to not get the vaccine but if the private sector decides to limit participation to those who are vaccinated what's the big deal? They already limit participation to those who choose to not smoke inside restaurants or rinks. In the vaccine sense, if you don't want it that's your choice, but if you think you should be allowed in to watch the leafs beside me then I hope you'll also argue for me to be able to smoke in the rink as well.

If you have the vaccine then you should have no worries about it.......do people not understand vaccines? You will be protected if I sit beside you.

You comparison would be valid if you didn’t have the vaccine.

 

[Golden_Jet]

If you have the vaccine then you should have no worries about it.......do people not understand vaccines? You will be protected if I sit beside you.

You comparison would be valid if you didn’t have the vaccine.

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