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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part IX- Now Featuring More Lockdowns

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hfman said:
you wear your mask inside your home?
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Nobody does. That's not what the point is. Are all you daft?????????

THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE OUT IN PUBLIC EVEN IF YOU ARE AROUND A BUNCH OF STRANGERS, YOU ARE WEARING A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. At home people don't do either of those things. When you invite people over you have a higher chance of getting Covid then you do lined up to get into a store. Which also explains the high number of cases coming from family gatherings.

Sorry for the yelling. My wife's grandmother passed away today from Covid. Yes she was older but she was perfectly healthy for her age til Covid. To see people everywhere trying to downplay measures and talking about conspiracy theories really irks me even more so now.
 
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stealth1 said:
Nobody does. That's not what the point is. Are all you daft?????????

THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE OUT IN PUBLIC EVEN IF YOU ARE AROUND A BUNCH OF STRANGERS, YOU ARE WEARING A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. At home people don't do either of those things. When you invite people over you have a higher chance of getting Covid then you do lined up to get into a store. Which also explains the high number of cases coming from family gatherings.

Sorry for the yelling. My wife's grandmother passed away today from Covid. Yes she was older but she was perfectly healthy for her age til Covid. To see people everywhere trying to downplay measures and talking about conspiracy theories really irks me even more so now.
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Sorry for your loss!
 
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stealth1 said:
Nobody does. That's not what the point is. Are all you daft?????????

THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE OUT IN PUBLIC EVEN IF YOU ARE AROUND A BUNCH OF STRANGERS, YOU ARE WEARING A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. At home people don't do either of those things. When you invite people over you have a higher chance of getting Covid then you do lined up to get into a store. Which also explains the high number of cases coming from family gatherings.

Sorry for the yelling. My wife's grandmother passed away today from Covid. Yes she was older but she was perfectly healthy for her age til Covid. To see people everywhere trying to downplay measures and talking about conspiracy theories really irks me even more so now.
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My condolences. Very sorry for your loss
 
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PromisedLand said:
From the article:

The city is allowing a Toronto restaurant previously shuttered after defying provincial lockdown orders to reopen in order to provide takeout and delivery services—but only after the owner obtains a proper business licence.

CONTEXT matters!

f***ing getting sick of agenda based posts without context
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Apparently there is some issue with the business license due to the location being in an industrial area. If the city of Toronto cared, they wouldn't have allowed him to operate for years without one. Likely there was some agreement settled between the city and the business to allow him to operate. I managed a restaurant in Durham for several years and the first business day after license expiry they'd send a by-law officer in to enforce it and threaten daily fines.
 
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PromisedLand said:
No and that is why I am not inviting anybody home or going to anyone else's home this holiday; I don't feel like being a silent assassin unless it is Hitman video game
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This is the only viable way to slow the spread of the virus.
To help prevent severe disease you should also take the vitamins.
 
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PromisedLand said:
At home when you are with family/friends; you don't wear a mask and relax. If you are asymptomatic carrier of the virus you will spread it to your family and unknowingly be the reason some of your family member end up in a hospital or worst dies.

When outside you are wearing masks, social distancing and hopefully in general people are more vigilant than relaxed compared to when you are at home

#ThereIsADifference
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Do you have a link that states most covid cases come from inside the home? I have never seen that and I do find it interesting.

If most cases were indeed spread within the home, I would think we would hear stories of entire households contracting the virus. Yet we don't, it seems it's always one person and not everybody in the house.
 
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X66 said:
I'll tell you how dumb people are these days.

They literally gave a millionaire(the Adamson BBQ guy) hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations for putting people's health at risk.

Think about that lol.
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Replace millionaire with trillionaire, and replace BBQ guy with vaccine companies.

Perhaps we should be more judicious with when and how often to vax.

 
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kb said:
Replace millionaire with trillionaire, and replace BBQ guy with vaccine companies.

Perhaps we should be more judicious with when and how often to vax.

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Pharma companies are awful, I know first hand I used to be heavily involved in that industry.

But I will keep my opinion on the Adamson guy.
 
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PromisedLand said:
They can plan it out by allowing certain postal codes to shop on certain days/time; people who want to shop can work it out with their employers; businesses can continue with their business while things calm down.

Only for 1 freakin' year; only thing this might be bad for are the ones who do last minute shopping (like myself hehe)
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I keep thinking I should start planning to do my shopping.
 
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kb said:
Replace millionaire with trillionaire, and replace BBQ guy with vaccine companies.

Perhaps we should be more judicious with when and how often to vax.

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Would like to study it more, and would pursue the aspect of "based on billing" and whether those who vaccinate their children are more likely to see a doctor over parents who don't.
 
Sens said:
I thought lockdowns stopped the spread?

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York Region should not be locked down with numbers like that.

Also, towards the end of November there were projections of 3,500 to 6,000 cases per day by mid-December. Haven't been close to those projections.
 
Confucius said:
Do you have a link that states most covid cases come from inside the home? I have never seen that and I do find it interesting.

If most cases were indeed spread within the home, I would think we would hear stories of entire households contracting the virus. Yet we don't, it seems it's always one person and not everybody in the house.
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Surge in COVID-19 cases linked to private indoor gatherings, reopenings across Canada

Its from summer but it does say most are from home. Yes people get it in public but they bring it home and spread to more people then they would in public.
 
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Confucius said:
Thanks for your effort, there is very little published stats on how many people got it from a relative.
Sad about your grandmother, 2020 was indeed the worst year I have seen and had to go through. Bring on 2021.
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Thanks its been a tough year.

While there is little published stats about home spread. Its not that hard to see at home you don't wear masks or social distancing with your family. It makes sense for it to be higher risk and have more spread
 
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Thanks for your effort, there is very little published stats on how many people got it from a relative.
Sad about your grandmother, 2020 was indeed the worst year I have seen and had to go through. Bring on 2021.
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The surge in cases isn't from a few house parties. It's from locking people at home. Every single infected person is now stuck indoors with their families. There is often a spike in cases a week after a lockdown order. Not overly surprising.
 
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The surge in cases isn't from a few house parties. It's from locking people at home. Every single infected person is now stuck indoors with their families. There is often a spike in cases a week after a lockdown order. Not overly surprising.
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Do people not live with their families when there isn't a lockdown?
 
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