GDT: Trade Deadline Day

[TMLAM34]

I can definitely see Rielly willing to waive his clause. It’s pretty clear him and Berube do not really mesh with playing style and usage.

I can see Vancouver, Seattle, Utah, Detroit and the Rangers on his list he’d waive to.

 

[tuckerintensity]

They aren't getting a guarantee for a rental. They wanted a win-now player and had to give up on it because they had no leverage.

They were literally trading Rantanen because he wouldn't sign, but they would have been happy to have the same problem with another guy? I don't think so, they would've just kept Rantanen if they were happy to roll with a rental RW.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

They were literally trading Rantanen because he wouldn't sign, but they would have been happy to have the same problem with another guy? I don't think so, they would've just kept Rantanen if they were happy to roll with a rental RW.

That's what I was thinking too.

It doesn't make sense for either Carolina or the Leafs to do this. Leafs would be wanting to load up by adding Rantanen to the core, including Marner, already in place. Carolina wanted to recover assets and still have an adequate incoming roster player for replacement.

Gotta wonder if there was something else going on beyond just Rantanen/Marner.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

They play in Raleigh Durham NC. It’s not as nice as Nashville, Tampa or Dallas but it’s OK. A little too basketball heavy but other than that it’s good place to live.

I was in Raleigh for 6 months on a reorg assignment for a large US multinational changing systems and people after an acquisition .. folks are all car crazy Nascar junkies and hoops too .. this was 20+ years ago but only 2 guys out of a few hundred even knew hockey .. I couldn't even give away canes tickets thats how bad it was

 

[ULF_55]

It’s confirmed. He was asked to waive. He declined.

You know even if he agreed to waive, I don't think the 'Canes would have done the trade without an extension in place.

Would they have gone to 8 * $14mm?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I was in Raleigh for 6 months on a reorg assignment for a large US multinational changing systems and people after an acquisition .. folks are all car crazy Nascar junkies and hoops too .. this was 20+ years ago but only 2 guys out of a few hundred even knew hockey .. I couldn't even give away canes tickets thats how bad it was

Raleigh itself is crap, but the Triangle nearby is nice.

Also, for the Canadians here, the best BBQ in America is in Eastern North Carolina and it's not even close.

 

[ULF_55]

I was in Raleigh for 6 months on a reorg assignment for a large US multinational changing systems and people after an acquisition .. folks are all car crazy Nascar junkies and hoops too .. this was 20+ years ago but only 2 guys out of a few hundred even knew hockey .. I couldn't even give away canes tickets thats how bad it was

Isn't even near a body of water. Might be in 50 years, but now ... nowhere's land.

 

[Nineteen67]

I see Willy as the most willing to waive. Rielly has local family now. Matthews is the captain.

Nylander on NYR makes a ton of sense.

I don’t Willy wanting to move to a place with high expectations. Toronto is a great fit for him because of the attention the team gets, but more importantly, theres no pressure and likelihood of shorter seasons.

I think Matthews would love NYC

 

[Nineteen67]

I was in Raleigh for 6 months on a reorg assignment for a large US multinational changing systems and people after an acquisition .. folks are all car crazy Nascar junkies and hoops too .. this was 20+ years ago but only 2 guys out of a few hundred even knew hockey .. I couldn't even give away canes tickets thats how bad it was

20 yrs ago, sure. They still love auto racing - Charlotte has a lot of NASCAR and Penske has their shop there.
The basketball turned us off from moving there about 15 yrs ago.

 

[Americanadian]

I don’t Willy wanting to move to a place with high expectations. Toronto is a great fit for him because of the attention the team gets, but more importantly, theres no pressure and likelihood of shorter seasons.

I think Matthews would love NYC

I just can’t see a trade making sense between NYR and TOR for Matthews - they have enough top 6 C’s. They don’t have any RS wingers.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Nah guys it's pretty simple. Willy to Philly and Auston to Boston.

It rhymes so you know it's true.

Plus we need packages including our 1sts back to kick off the rebuild.

 

[tuckerintensity]

That's what I was thinking too.

It doesn't make sense for either Carolina or the Leafs to do this. Leafs would be wanting to load up by adding Rantanen to the core, including Marner, already in place. Carolina wanted to recover assets and still have an adequate incoming roster player for replacement.

Gotta wonder if there was something else going on beyond just Rantanen/Marner.

The Athletic's best report on this is that Carolina brought Marner for Rantanen up and Treliving said it's a non-starter. At some point in the lead up to the deadline, we told Marner that we want him to stay and we want to get that deal done as soon as he wants it done and asked if he'd want to move now if he isn't going to stay and he said he wants to stay.

That kind of report doesn't sell subscriptions though, so they have seven articles about Marner in the last three days with varying levels of OMGzzzzz headlines.

 

[Metroid]

The Athletic's best report on this is that Carolina brought Marner for Rantanen up and Treliving said it's a non-starter. At some point in the lead up to the deadline, we told Marner that we want him to stay and we want to get that deal done as soon as he wants it done and asked if he'd want to move now if he isn't going to stay and he said he wants to stay.

That kind of report doesn't sell subscriptions though, so they have seven articles about Marner in the last three days with varying levels of OMGzzzzz headlines.

many ppl are too invested in Marner, so the media plays them like a fiddle.. I'm quietly sitting around waiting for the playoffs and will only get mad if and when the time comes.

Lol at everyone losing their shit when they all say the same thing "regular season doesn't matter".

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

The Athletic's best report on this is that Carolina brought Marner for Rantanen up and Treliving said it's a non-starter. At some point in the lead up to the deadline, we told Marner that we want him to stay and we want to get that deal done as soon as he wants it done and asked if he'd want to move now if he isn't going to stay and he said he wants to stay.

That kind of report doesn't sell subscriptions though, so they have seven articles about Marner in the last three days with varying levels of OMGzzzzz headlines.

I have to wonder how sincere those talks actually were.

The Knies + 2x1st ++ for Rantanen would make the most sense. The ++ could be Cowan and Minten and whatever else it takes to get it done. The fact Treliving was engaged in these discussions and ended up with two significantly lesser players for almost the same price Rantanen ultimately was traded for doesn't reflect well on Treliving.

His trades for Laughton and Carlo seem like last minute desperation moves so he could say he did something and the prices paid reflect that.