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TMLBlueandWhite said:
The Leafs should have been willing to pay that and more.

If that was the ask and Treliving said no he should be fired now. You know why Dallas traded for Rantanen? Because they're a real contender that wants to win now.

Not a pretender contender that won't make a desperate seller an offer they can't refuse.
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While I'm not going to argue against Rantanen being the best player among the trio which also includes Laughton and Carlo, giving up two 1sts and Knies for him would've meant not being able to add either Laughton or Carlo. Would the Leafs really have been better off addressing one spot rather than two (not to mention bringing in a winger over a centre and a right shot d-man)? I also don't know if there was any confirmation about the contract that Rantanen would've commanded in order to be a Leaf (12 x 8 still, or possibly more?)
 
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I had kind of viewed this year as a transition, wait and see with pretty low expectations TBH. But I like the adds Tre has done especially since it adds depth with term.
 
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HEAVY DUTY said:


I'm happy we didn't land B. Schenn. But kinda interesting that he didn't want to come here.
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If we landed Brayden Schenn instead of Laughton would that have meant no Carlo?

If so, I strongly prefer Laughton + Carlo together over only Brayden Schenn.

We really needed that stay at home RD in Carlo to pair with Rielly, which has been a need forever in addition to 3c.

I’m glad we were able to address both needs, happy with how it worked out.
 
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The Podium said:
I guess the other option is play Laughton at 2LW and stick with the McMann - Domi Robertson line that has been somewhat effective

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Laughton - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Domi - Robertson
Lorentz - Kamp - Jarnkrok

I actually don’t hate it. Laughton just needs to be a physical upgrade on Holmberg offensively while adding special teams value.
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It’s not terrible but I still think it’s pretty important to get Domi off center and back to where he’s crushed it which is on the wing. I think it makes a lot of sense to go back to Knies-Matthews-Domi, and then let Nylander and Marner carry their own lines. We do not want to run into problems with Matthews-Marner getting shut down again in the playoffs.
 
Puckstuff said:
If we landed Brayden Schenn instead of Laughton would that have meant no Carlo?

If so, I strongly prefer Laughton + Carlo together over only Brayden Schenn.

We really needed that stay at home RD in Carlo to pair with Rielly, which has been a need forever in addition to 3c.

I’m glad we were able to address both needs, happy with how it worked out.
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It likely would have changed the rest of the day. Same if the Rantanen deal went down. I assume they had other defensive options depending on cost/cap space. If Schenn was acquired, even with heavy retention, Kampf was a goner.

It feels like things lined up pretty well. But even if we're happy with the moves, it's crazy to think that it wasn't their top choices. The Carlo move seemed to be a last minute yes from Boston from the sound of things.
 
SprDaVE said:
It likely would have changed the rest of the day. Same if the Rantanen deal went down. I assume they had other defensive options depending on cost/cap space. If Schenn was acquired, even with heavy retention, Kampf was a goner.

It feels like things lined up pretty well. But even if we're happy with the moves, it's crazy to think that it wasn't their top choices. The Carlo move seemed to be a last minute yes from Boston from the sound of things.
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Good point. Maybe if they get B.Schenn, they also get Luke Schenn. Regardless, I don’t care. Carlo + Laughton is a fine 3c and 4d. So Schenn can enjoy St.Louis.

It sounds like the Carlo deal came in at 2:58 pm according to Treliving. These things really do go down to the wire. With how late it was taking I didn’t think we were going to get any d-man, so I’m glad we addressed both needs and got Carlo over the line.
 
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Following up on the Rielly discussion from earlier this week: I wonder if Detroit would be a good fit in the summer (assuming he doesn't return to form). I could see it making sense for him and his family and I could see Detroit valuing him.
 
Rantanen, It's a wrap.

Carolina get Hall and Stankoven and picks.

www.sportsnet.ca

Hurricanes GM Tulsky on Rantanen trade saga: ‘We knew it was a risk’

Hurricanes GM Eric Tulsky said he didn’t regret swinging big to bring in Mikko Rantanen, even if it didn’t end how the club had envisioned.
www.sportsnet.ca www.sportsnet.ca

In all, between the two deals, the Canes moved out forwards Martin Necas and Jack Drury — as well as, eventually, Rantanen — along with a third-round pick, and ultimately brought in forward Logan Stankoven, a pair of first-round picks and a pair of third-round picks.

www.nhl.com

Rantanen's trade to Stars caps 'crazy' stretch for high-scoring forward | NHL.com

After trades from Colorado and Carolina 6 weeks apart, signs 8-year contract to stay with Dallas
www.nhl.com www.nhl.com

At least Colorado and Carolina each mitigated the loss.

The Avalanche received forwards Martin Necas and Jack Drury from the Hurricanes, along with a second-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft and a fourth-rounder in 2026.

The Hurricanes received forward Logan Stankoven, two conditional first-round picks (2026 and 2028) and two third-round picks (2026 and 2027). Each first-round pick slides to the next year if it falls in the top 10.

“Honestly, when you look back at the whole thing, we recovered a lot there,” Tulsky said, “and I’m pretty happy with where we ended up in the end.”
 
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At first the sticker price of trading 2 first rounders was a little jarring. But given that both of these guys have term and a lower cap hit due to retention, we could easily rehab their value and trade them for picks or prospects over the next year or two after having an off season to sign a free agent to replace them.

So we get them for the playoff run, and then we have options on what to do with them going forward.

Great job by Tre!
 
LeafChief said:
Treliving said he was going to rebuild the D and he did just that. What an incredible job.

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Carlo
OEL - Myers/Hakanpaa (if he can play)

So much better than anything we've seen over the Matthews era.
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Treliving has been fantastic. I don’t think it would be possible to add more impactful defensemen/goalies than Carlo for 3.5, OEL for 3.5, Stolarz for 2.5, and Tanev for 4.5. We have some great value deals for this season and next on the back end especially. It’s really up to those core guys up front now because management has really gone all in to get so many guys on retained deals to build around them.
 
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Puckstuff said:
If we landed Brayden Schenn instead of Laughton would that have meant no Carlo?

If so, I strongly prefer Laughton + Carlo together over only Brayden Schenn.

We really needed that stay at home RD in Carlo to pair with Rielly, which has been a need forever in addition to 3c.

I’m glad we were able to address both needs, happy with how it worked out.
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Quite possibly. But maybe they were willing to dish out more for Schenn. The issue with acquiring Schenn, IMO, is that he is a 2C that we would slot as a 3C. That means less ice time for him (only so much to go around), and we're paying a premium for someone we wont use as much.
 
LeafSteel said:
Brayden Schenn
F U Brayden. Grateful you refused to waive to come to Toronto.
Didn’t want you anyways.
Your decline is going to be fun to watch and will be constant reminder that we avoided a boat anchor of a player and contract.
Easily the most overrated player that was rumoured to be available.
F U Brayden
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He didn't waive to go anywhere Skippy. The Leafs weren't the only team interested in him, and he refused to waive for anyone, which is his right. To act like he refused to come to Toronto, when he in fact refused to leave St. Louis, is pathetically childish. Seriously, grow up.
 
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colchar said:
He didn't waive to go anywhere Skippy. The Leafs weren't the only team interested in him, and he refused to waive for anyone, which is his right. To act like he refused to come to Toronto, when he in fact refused to leave St. Louis, is pathetically childish. Seriously, grow up.
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Start your post with name calling, end it saying to grow up, all because you disagree with someone else’s opinion……

Frankly this says more about you more than anything else.

‘Nuff said.
 
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People like this fail to take into numerous considerations such as the players family, children, parents etc, spouses possible occupation and various other factors

If a player doesn’t want to go play for a specific city it’s better they have the option to decline than give a half hearted effort to the team

I’d rather have a guy like Laughton who seems very happy to be playing for the leafs
 
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ACC1224 said:
What made me sick is the same day we received the bill for playoff tickets and next seasons renewal.
Up to 10k plus for the season, 14k plus for this year’s playoffs.
We sit 2nd last row.
It may be time to consider giving them up. :thumbd:
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Can you sell them?
 
ACC1224 said:
What made me sick is the same day we received the bill for playoff tickets and next seasons renewal.
Up to 10k plus for the season, 14k plus for this year’s playoffs.
We sit 2nd last row.
It may be time to consider giving them up. :thumbd:
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We'll keep ours, but it's tough to swallow the bill.

So crazy the 16 playoff games are 40% more than the whole season
 
ACC1224 said:
What made me sick is the same day we received the bill for playoff tickets and next seasons renewal.
Up to 10k plus for the season, 14k plus for this year’s playoffs.
We sit 2nd last row.
It may be time to consider giving them up. :thumbd:
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How do you go about selling them? I’ve been wanting to buy
 
The big thing to take from the two additions is they came from struggling teams and Carlo at +2 is good sign. Laughton can score shgs and can play defensively on 3rd line. He usually gets roughly 35+ points a year adding some new legs in the mix. Laughton at -17 is not to much of a worry as pretty much most the flyers are negatives if they logged bigger minutes. He can take faceoffs if need to which could be critical later in games with 49.7% this year. Not the worst numbers.
 
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