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Which of McDavid or Draisaitl should Edmonton consider trading to balance out the team


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BrindamoursNose

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You misspelled Hayes.........

You think you're getting McDavid without giving up Couturier?

McDavid is what the Flyers need to be revitalized. I'm convinced at this point that we need to acquire a Top 5 player with cache in order for people to care about the Flyers again.

Winning helps, but adding a top guy like McDavid is unspeakably valuable.

If Pitt was tanking, I'd go out and get Crosby because we just need names at this point to re-ignite the fan base.
 
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Drake1588

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I mean ... there are teams that could do it. You can pick and choose players off Tampa Bay to do it. Vasilevsky plus one of Hedman or McDonough or Point or Stamkos fits the criteria (although four of those five players have NMC or NTC protection. They currently live in sunny Florida and play for the two-time reigning Cup winner. So perhaps not).

Once you start naming names, the ask is probably too high in the OP's proposal. Two superstars is a lot to give up, even for the best player in the game. That's without figuring out how Edmonton fits two such salaries under the cap.
 

Empoleon8771

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I don't see what trading McDavid and Draisaitl would accomplish. The Oilers issue is that they can't develop players whatsoever and are littered with bad contracts.

The Oilers have over $4 million in dead cap space from Lucic, Neal and Sekera, and then they have absolute scrubs like Kassian, Turris, Ryan, Koskinen, Keith and Ryan making way more than they're worth. Unless trading one of those two comes with ridding the Oilers of all of their bad deals, there is no way that trading either one makes the Oilers better.
 
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coopooter

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Forbes estimates that the Oil are worth the 7th most in NHL
Those two are the reason why
 

Sweetpotato

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You think you're getting McDavid without giving up Couturier?

McDavid is what the Flyers need to be revitalized. I'm convinced at this point that we need to acquire a Top 5 player with cache in order for people to care about the Flyers again.

Winning helps, but adding a top guy like McDavid is unspeakably valuable.

If Pitt was tanking, I'd go out and get Crosby because we just need names at this point to re-ignite the fan base.
IMO Philly should retool and look for a high 2023 pick. Bedard or Michkov would be amazing to start a new chapter.
 

rogking65

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"The Oilers should trade the best players in the league for lesser players, that's how they'll get better".

Sigh.
do you consider Kucherov/ Vasy and Point all lesser players. Of course, anybody would. But if all 3 were offered for McDavid you would not do it. Sigh
 

LTIR

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do you consider Kucherov/ Vasy and Point all lesser players. Of course, anybody would. But if all 3 were offered for McDavid you would not do it. Sigh
Cap space says hi.
TB would be too dumb to offer it but Oilers would/should still decline unless McD publically wants out.
 

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I personally view Draisaitl as one that would remain in Edmonton and the face of the franchise. But I know some if not most would disagree. I just have a hunch McDavid will bounce when the contract is up. McDavid with 3/4 years left would give the Oilers a huge haul.
 

The Moose is Loose

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Would only make sense to trade just one of them if you could do something like Drai for Seider

a kid that is cheap and can play a big role right now and you use the cap space for a upgrade on goal and forward deep
Jesus that’s an awful trade

26 year old Hart, Lindsay, Art Ross winner signed long term at a huge discount, who is currently leading the NHL in goals and points for a rookie dman
 

Legion34

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I personally view Draisaitl as one that would remain in Edmonton and the face of the franchise. But I know some if not most would disagree. I just have a hunch McDavid will bounce when the contract is up. McDavid with 3/4 years left would give the Oilers a huge haul.

he will have a NMC. So who knows. If he ever were to ask out he would pick his team.

not saying he would. But he picks his own which reduced the return
 
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McJedi

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Girard, Newhook, Kuemper and 2023 1st.

and Oilers GM fired so fast for trading away McDavid.
 

Cheapshot

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Think the better question would be if they keep losing wether it’s early playoffs or not making the playoffs. Do one of them ask out ? Drai would be the easier choice. Keep the face of your franchise while maxing out the return on a high profile player.
 

Legion34

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Well, his NMC doesn't kick in until next season, so it would have to be like... now.

they won’t. If he were to ask out it would be after it kicks in.

hypothetically where would he want to go?

NYR? Trade for fox? He doesn’t have protection.
Dallas for heiskanen? Plus?
Toronto for marner sandin and firsts? They wouldn’t trade for matthews unless they could get a haul from another team.
 

LTIR

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Show me some trades using assets the Oilers have that make them cup contenders, hopefully without chasing rentals.
the 1sts would be used to 'chase' top rentals so not sure what you are asking here.
 

LTIR

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Hard to make those trades in a cap world, but they should return 1C, 3 1sts, 1 top D, 1 A prospect + a roosterplayer. Valuewise.
roosterplayer... raffi torres retired i think

'3 1sts' wouldnt be something Oilers would want because they wouldnt be rebuilding.
McDavid is simply not getting traded.
 

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the 1sts would be used to 'chase' top rentals so not sure what you are asking here.

There's no rentals available that makes the Oilers cup contenders. How many assets can the Oilers spend to trade out their bottom 6, upgrade on defense and goalie? While also moving some bad contracts out. Even then it probably won't be enough to enter contender status
 

jetsforever

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The only ones that would make sense would be something like MacKinnon+Makar or Aho+Slavin+more which those other teams probably wouldn't love.
 

yababy

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McDavid is the one to go
Bad leadership
12.5m cap hit
Can land a boatload in return.
Columbus, LA, NJ, NYI, Phil should be all over that
 

xsniper11x

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I have a tough time with the assumption many make that McDavid won’t ever ask out. How many generational talents sit idle while watching their team find practically no success? In any sport?

I think if he is forced to watch Eichel go deep with VGK while he misses the POs or is embarrassed in Rd 1 (possibly by VGK), that could weigh heavily enough where it becomes the final nail for him.
 

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