Proposal: Cgy-mtl

[blankall]

He's had the number 1C role twice in his career, the first time him, Pacioretty & Gallagher were all PPG or very close to it.

This time Galchenyuk completely ran away with the 1C role once he was placed there. 30 goals, 55+ points in a bad year all around.

He's a 1C.

What if he has a slump next year? Not saying he will, but he wouldn't be the first prospect that was unable to produce. It should also be taken into account that last year was a bit of a write-off year for the Habs once Price was out for the season, and defensively they weren't all that great.

 

[Habsfan2731]

What if he has a slump next year? Not saying he will, but he wouldn't be the first prospect that was unable to produce. It should also be taken into account that last year was a bit of a write-off year for the Habs once Price was out for the season, and defensively they weren't all that great.

Galchenyuk?

He'll have rough patches like everyone does. He's not a prospect anymore, he's going to be entering his 5th year in the NHL.

Defensively we've been a train wreck for for the better part of 4 years under Therrien lol

 

[blankall]

Galchenyuk?

He'll have rough patches like everyone does. He's not a prospect anymore, he's going to be entering his 5th year in the NHL.

Defensively we've been a train wreck for for the better part of 4 years under Therrien lol

That's exactly it. He's entering his 5th year and beat 50 points once. Don't get me wrong, he's a great young player that any team would love to have. However, it's a bit premature to conclude that he will definitely be a #1 centre in the NHL.

 

[Habsfan2731]

That's exactly it. He's entering his 5th year and beat 50 points once. Don't get me wrong, he's a great young player that any team would love to have. However, it's a bit premature to conclude that he will definitely be a #1 centre in the NHL.

In 3 1/2 years prior he was getting 2nd PP duties, god awful linemates as well.

He only for half a season played with someone half as good offensively as Johnny Hockey.

Linemates make a big difference.

This is also under Michel Therrien's system where God forbid you show any creativity. Creative players have been shown the door.

This year between Pacioretty-Radulov, you think he's going to regress?

He showed how good he was from the 2014 players & on, this year was finally him getting a chance to prove it and he did exactly that.

 

[blankall]

In 3 1/2 years prior he was getting 2nd PP duties, god awful linemates as well.

He only for half a season played with someone half as good offensively as Johnny Hockey.

Linemates make a big difference.

This is also under Michel Therrien's system where God forbid you show any creativity. Creative players have been shown the door.

This year between Pacioretty-Radulov, you think he's going to regress?

He showed how good he was from the 2014 players & on, this year was finally him getting a chance to prove it and he did exactly that.

That's great.

He still has yet to show he can play as a #1 centre for a period of time.

 

[rhinoshawarma]

That's great.

He still has yet to show he can play as a #1 centre for a period of time.

Desharnais gets injured -> MT is forced to finally play Galchenyuk in a 1C role with pacioretty

22 games played, 22 points, 16 goals. Is that not 1C stats?

 

[rhinoshawarma]

You have no clue what you're talking about. Whatsoever.

So Brodie now has the same skill set as Subban? Oh boy

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

So Brodie now has the same skill set as Subban?

Any minor thing Brodie lacks offensively, he makes up defensively to Subban. Name recognition is a terrible guage for actual ability. Also doesn't hurt that Brodie's AAV is half of Subban's, as an aside.

 

[YourAverageFan*]

galchenyuk, drafted third overall, who has played more games with third liners, washed up players (wiese, eller, semin, and all the other offensively inept habs) and rookies (carr, ghetto and so on) than top line players, had JUST 7 fewer points than sean monahan who played all season long with gaudreau on the TOP line and the 1rst PP unit. Yet galchenyuk has 3 more goals than him, isnt that incredible, how much it speaks to his crazy talent?? I garantee u monahan doesnt do that with therrien as HC and being played with shiity linemates.

Galchenyuk only got 1rst line minutes and 1rst PP unit by the END of the year cuz therriens fav toy in DD was injured.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130582
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130620

so yeah I would NEVER do galchenyuk for brodie straight up, flames would have to massively overpay to pry the habs' best and most promising forward to acquire him, cuz lets be honest hes not going anywhere esp for a 26 year old defender that doesnt really do anything really well, he does everything good but not great ala subban.

As for sergechev, he got drafted in the top 10 (alrdy beats out Brodie), got the OHL best D of the year as a 17 year old rookie (first time in last 20 years, some **** like that) and has massive upside. After all, brodie was NEVER seen as a top 50 D in his career up until now.
And if you wouldnt do brodie for weber, pacs, gallagher, sergechev than ur crazy. AND PLZ NEVER EVER MENTION PRICE AND BRODIE IN THE SAME SENTENCE FOR AN 'IDEAL' TRADE, PLZ DONT. Price would prob acquire all ur players in a single package.
As for the OP trade, flames say no easily, but thats fine with me, give Beaulieu a damn chance at showing who he really is and what he can become playing alongside weber and manning the top PP unit.

I only needed to read up until the bolded to realize you have no idea what you're talking about so you have no credibility.

 

[blankall]

Desharnais gets injured -> MT is forced to finally play Galchenyuk in a 1C role with pacioretty

22 games played, 22 points, 16 goals. Is that not 1C stats?

Yes...for 22 games.

 

[rhinoshawarma]

That's great.

He still has yet to show he can play as a #1 centre for a period of time.

Yes...for 22 games.

 

[rhinoshawarma]

Any minor thing Brodie lacks offensively, he makes up defensively to Subban. Name recognition is a terrible guage for actual ability. Also doesn't hurt that Brodie's AAV is half of Subban's, as an aside.

Take off the glasses man

 

[Some Other Flame]

Take off the glasses man

And you might want to put on some glasses

 

[YourAverageFan*]

Take off the glasses man

You need to put on some glasses. Stats show Brodie is just as good as Subban. Even if Brodie was a step below Subban (which he's not), having a cap hit that's like half as much as Subban's makes Brodie the more valuable player of the two.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Take off the glasses man

*takes off glasses*

Oh you're right, now I can't see how Brodie is as good or better than Subban now that I'm blind. Good call.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I'd be willing to wager that due to the time difference, most Habs fans have seen Brodie 10 times or less over the last 2 seasons. It doesn't surprise me at all that most don't appreciate how good he is.

 

[L13]

As a Flames fan I think my fellow Flamers are overrating Brodie and underrating Galchenyuk here. The deal is still a non-starter for the Flames, though, simply because they don't need another centre and need to keep Brodie considering Giordano is bound to decline within the next several years and someone will need to take over from him.

That said, Giordano is still our best defenceman, not Brodie, and Galchenyuk does have 1C potential.

As for the original proposal and any deals involving Backlund, forget about it.

 

[blankall]

A dur dur....I guess technically 20 seconds is a "period of time" too. Clearly I was stating that a player is not designated a true #1 C until they've played as such for a long stretch of games. Typically that means 2+ seasons.

I think Galchenyuk is a great young player and has the potential to be a #1 C, but he hasn't achieved that status yet.

 

[rhinoshawarma]

*takes off glasses*

Oh you're right, now I can't see how Brodie is as good or better than Subban now that I'm blind. Good call.

Homer glasses but ok

 

[rhinoshawarma]

A dur dur....I guess technically 20 seconds is a "period of time" too. Clearly I was stating that a player is not designated a true #1 C until they've played as such for a long stretch of games. Typically that means 2+ seasons.

I think Galchenyuk is a great young player and has the potential to be a #1 C, but he hasn't achieved that status yet.

So is McDavid not a 1C?

 

[rhinoshawarma]

I'd be willing to wager that due to the time difference, most Habs fans have seen Brodie 10 times or less over the last 2 seasons. It doesn't surprise me at all that most don't appreciate how good he is.

Ive seen him plenty and think he's a fantastic player, but you guys are pushing it regarding to really how good he is imo. You talk about how players like Galchenyuk, Pacioretty wouldn't come close to his value. I just think thats absurd and i think most people would agree.

I love when people's opinion isnt shared it means they didn't watch him enough. Do you also know where I live

 

[Moose Head]

That's exactly it. He's entering his 5th year and beat 50 points once. Don't get me wrong, he's a great young player that any team would love to have. However, it's a bit premature to conclude that he will definitely be a #1 centre in the NHL.

I dunno, considering the crap ice time and lined he's had, he's done pretty well. Top scorer among guys his draft year and in consideration for best player his draft year. He's still just 22.

 

[Legend123]

oh boy,,, flames fans srsly over rating their players. Youre telling me brodie is a talent similar to Subban?? ahahha ok sure be delusional. Hes good but no where close to as gud as D such as Subban, Hedman, Josi, Doughty, Burns, Keith and so on. hes not even the flames #1 D.

 

[Double Dion]

So Brodie now has the same skill set as Subban? Oh boy

I actually think Brodie is better than Subban not the same. I sure as heck wouldn't consider trading Brodie for Weber.

 

[Double Dion]

As a Flames fan I think my fellow Flamers are overrating Brodie and underrating Galchenyuk here. The deal is still a non-starter for the Flames, though, simply because they don't need another centre and need to keep Brodie considering Giordano is bound to decline within the next several years and someone will need to take over from him.

That said, Giordano is still our best defenceman, not Brodie, and Galchenyuk does have 1C potential.

As for the original proposal and any deals involving Backlund, forget about it.

I certainly don't see it that way. I think Brodie is our best defenseman.