Canucks News, Rumours, & Fantasy GM | Part 2

[MS]

I honestly wonder if there's more to it and negotiations went downhill. Maybe the Canucks were trying to get him to sign that "two-way" deal a bunch of guys have signed recently and he said no. It just makes little sense to me to waive a guy who they have penciled into their roster next season just to help the AHL team, even if he has a high chance of clearing. People were talking about him playing with Hughes next year just a few weeks ago.

I don't think anything is weird about it?

He's a pending UFA and is ineligible to play for any other team this season. There is absolutely no chance anyone claims him.

 

[Vector]

I don't think anything is weird about it?

He's a pending UFA and is ineligible to play for any other team this season. There is absolutely no chance anyone claims him.

Capfriendly has him as a pending RFA.

 

[Gstank]

So I was thinking about this

If we trade JT Miller to Pittsburgh for their 2023 1st 2024 1st, and maybe Pettersson

Then turn around and shop a 2024 1st and Hoglander to Arizona for Hayton

It may be a colossal step back next year. But we would have a nice set of young assets

Petey
Hayton
Hughes
2 2023 1st round picks
Hronek
Demko.

would be a pretty good starting block to build off of and Im not sure if we would be any worse off then this year considering our Offense would be worse but our Defense with Pettersson would be better. We could still return Boeser and Garland. Mik would be back in the lineup and I would hope that Podz would have some natural progression.

Wingers would be something Mik, Kuz, Boeser, Garland, Podz, Joshua, Hoglander, Alman. Which is probably about league average in terms of depth

Hughes, Hronek, Pettersson is a solid group of top 4 Dman. Although its nothing special.

Demko would probably get us at least 5 more wins if he played the full season. We would just need Martin or Silovs to give us average backup goaltending to be around a playoff spot

 

[MS]

Capfriendly has him as a pending RFA.

He’s 26 and has less than 80 NHL games so he’ll be a Group VI UFA on July 1.

Capfriendly just doesn’t update statuses until the end of the season when the GP totals are official for all players.

Will Lockwood is the same deal.

 

[Vector]

He’s 26 and has less than 80 NHL games so he’ll be a Group VI UFA on July 1.

Capfriendly just doesn’t update statuses until the end of the season when the GP totals are official for all players.

Will Lockwood is the same deal.

That's what I figured but was posting on my phone, eating lunch, and really didn't want to put any more work in to check. It's been an exhausting day week several weeks.

 

[m9]

He’s 26 and has less than 80 NHL games so he’ll be a Group VI UFA on July 1.

Capfriendly just doesn’t update statuses until the end of the season when the GP totals are official for all players.

Will Lockwood is the same deal.

That makes sense then, thanks.

I thought Capfriendly used to make a note when guys weren't going to hit those thresholds, but I guess they don't anymore or I imagined it.

 

[Vector]

That makes sense then, thanks.

I thought Capfriendly used to make a note when guys weren't going to hit those thresholds, but I guess they don't anymore or I imagined it.

They are for a bunch of other players. No idea why Juulsen would be different.

 

[MS]

That makes sense then, thanks.

I thought Capfriendly used to make a note when guys weren't going to hit those thresholds, but I guess they don't anymore or I imagined it.

I think maybe that used to be the case because I remember something similar. Edit - they still do but just haven't updated it for Juulsen, I'm guessing because he was on an NHL roster and very close to the GP threshold.

In any case, Juulsen is unequivocally a Group VI UFA.

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) | Puckpedia

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) UFA's are free to sign with any team, and their previous team receives no compensation. UFA's cannot sign contracts with new teams until July 1 at 12pm Eastern. Group 3 UFA This is the most common type of UFA. A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if...

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Group 6 UFA

A player becomes a Group 6 UFA if they are 25, completed 3 or more professional seasons, has a contract expiring, and has played less than 80 NHL Games. For goalies, this is 28 NHL games with more than 30 minutes of ice time.

A Professional Season is defined as any season where a player aged 18-19 plays in 11 or more Professional Games, and a player 20 or older plays 1 or more Professional Games. A Professional Game is a regular season or playoff game in the NHL, minor league (AHL/ECHL), or European professional while under an NHL contract.

Juulsen is 26, has completed 6 professional seasons, and has played 68 NHL games. Interestingly if he didn't get hurt there's a decent chance he gets the extra 12 games and is then an RFA.

Here's a complete list of pending Group VI UFAs (which includes both Juulsen and Lockwood, and Olli Juolevi):

The Unleashed 2023: Potential Group VI Unrestricted Free Agents

Though most players have to wait until after their 27th birthday to become an unrestricted free agent, able to sign …

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Parker Wotherspoon is a name I'd keep an eye on as a local kid coming from a well-trained defensive system in NYI who showed pretty well in his NHL games this year.

They are for a bunch of other players. No idea why Juulsen would be different.

They must only update intermittently because Will Lockwood was listed as an RFA at the point we traded him 6 weeks ago and is now listed as a pending Group VI.

 

[Nucker101]

I think the window to deal Miller to Pitt might be closed. Hextall/Burke might be done and their new ownership group wants to be more analytical-based moving forward.

I can’t imagine that trading 1sts for Miller’s contract is something that their new regime would be nearly as likely to do as Hextall/Burke would.

 

[Bleach Clean]

It's a curious thing to project this roster out. They intend to win now, but they have to get under the cap first.

To me, Beauvillier for a pick is the easiest way to get compliant. The next best would be to have TOR circle back on Myers and use him to 'replace' Justin Holl.

Overall, the decisions surrounding Boeser/Beauvillier/Garland will mean a great deal to this team moving forward. Boeser has been bad defensively, but his production and 1PP utility is not easily replaced. At the same time, Garland is a better ES driver, but worse/limited on the PP. Beauvillier is of a similar mould.

I think the window to deal Miller to Pitt might be closed. Hextall/Burke might be done and their new ownership group wants to be more analytical-based moving forward.

I can’t imagine that trading 1sts for Miller’s contract is something that their new regime would be nearly as likely to do as Hextall/Burke would.

I think that ship has sailed as well. However, if Hextall and Burke are still there, then maybe. It comes down to that tandem persisting in management there.

 

[andora]

I think maybe that used to be the case because I remember something similar. Edit - they still do but just haven't updated it for Juulsen, I'm guessing because he was on an NHL roster and very close to the GP threshold.

In any case, Juulsen is unequivocally a Group VI UFA.

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) | Puckpedia

Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) UFA's are free to sign with any team, and their previous team receives no compensation. UFA's cannot sign contracts with new teams until July 1 at 12pm Eastern. Group 3 UFA This is the most common type of UFA. A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if...

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Juulsen is 26, has completed 6 professional seasons, and has played 68 NHL games. Interestingly if he didn't get hurt there's a decent chance he gets the extra 12 games and is then an RFA.

Here's a complete list of pending Group VI UFAs (which includes both Juulsen and Lockwood, and Olli Juolevi):

The Unleashed 2023: Potential Group VI Unrestricted Free Agents

Though most players have to wait until after their 27th birthday to become an unrestricted free agent, able to sign …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

Parker Wotherspoon is a name I'd keep an eye on as a local kid coming from a well-trained defensive system in NYI who showed pretty well in his NHL games this year.



They must only update intermittently because Will Lockwood was listed as an RFA at the point we traded him 6 weeks ago and is now listed as a pending Group VI.

I like knyazhov as well.. horrific injuries but in my opinion there was always a player there

 

[MS]

If Burke and Hextall are done, what a hilariously terrible last act for their careers.

Swap out Matheson and Marino for Petry and Smith during the offseason, let Evan Rodrigues leave to sign dirt cheap in Colorado, cheap out at the deadline and trade for Mikael Granlund to score 1 goal in 20 games, pay to dump Brock McGinn 1.5 years into a 4-year contract, and miss the playoffs.

Should probably have stayed at Sportsnet, Burkie.

I like knyazhov as well.. horrific injuries but in my opinion there was always a player there

Heh, Knyzhov or Kniazev? Both are SJ property, ha, and it's confusing as hell when watching the Barracuda play Abbotsford. I'm assuming you mean Knyzhov as he's the UFA.

 

[andora]

Yep the older one.. that went through such shit for two years.. including achilles and a surgery infection i think

If Burke and Hextall are done, what a hilariously terrible last act for their careers.

Swap out Matheson and Marino for Petry and Smith during the offseason, let Evan Rodrigues leave to sign dirt cheap in Colorado, cheap out at the deadline and trade for Mikael Granlund to score 1 goal in 20 games, pay to dump Brock McGinn 1.5 years into a 4-year contract, and miss the playoffs.

Should probably have stayed at Sportsnet, Burkie.



Heh, Knyzhov or Kniazev? Both are SJ property, ha, and it's confusing as hell when watching the Barracuda play Abbotsford. I'm assuming you mean Knyzhov as he's the UFA.

 

[Vector]

 

[Peter Griffin]

I think the window to deal Miller to Pitt might be closed. Hextall/Burke might be done and their new ownership group wants to be more analytical-based moving forward.

I can’t imagine that trading 1sts for Miller’s contract is something that their new regime would be nearly as likely to do as Hextall/Burke would.

Yea, that was a desperation type offer on Hextall’s part I think.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Welp there goes Gaudreau. Really wish the team had offersheeted Roy last offseason

 

[Blue and Green]

That makes sense then, thanks.

I thought Capfriendly used to make a note when guys weren't going to hit those thresholds, but I guess they don't anymore or I imagined it.

In theory, a player could still have been waived today and claimed by a playoff-bound team that might play as many as 28 postseason games. Probably if we checked it thoroughly, any player who after yesterday's action was at 51 NHL games (including pro-rating for shortened regular seasons) would still be listed as RFA; the guys with less would be listed as Group 6. That would be my guess, that CapFriendly doesn't change the status until it is impossible for the player to reach the games-played threshold.

 

[credulous]

In theory, a player could still have been waived today and claimed by a playoff-bound team that might play as many as 28 postseason games. Probably if we checked it thoroughly, any player who after yesterday's action was at 51 NHL games (including pro-rating for shortened regular seasons) would still be listed as RFA; the guys with less would be listed as Group 6. That would be my guess, that CapFriendly doesn't change the status until it is impossible for the player to reach the games-played threshold.

players claimed off waivers after the deadline can't play in the playoffs. capfriendly probably just doesn't check continuously and does periodic sweeps or something

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Compher might be the only option 3c left in free agency.

 

[andora]

Compher might be the only option 3c left in free agency.

Welp there goes Gauthier. Really wish the team had offersheeted Roy last offseason

Well shit

 

[CanucksMJL]

At least Hughes has his priorities in good order!

Marketing: "Let's interview guys about their tatoos and not show them. Actually let's have most of them completely covered up."

I'm completely baffled by this. The NHL has been so bad at this stuff for so long in both strategy and execution it almost seems like they do it on purpose.

 

[Nucker101]

We’ll have to settle for Teddy Blueger

 

[Vector]

Marketing: "Let's interview guys about their tatoos and not show them. Actually let's have most of them completely covered up."

I'm completely baffled by this. The NHL has been so bad at this stuff for so long in both strategy and execution it almost seems like they do it on purpose.

This is from the NHLPA not the NHL. I wouldn’t expect the NHL to even want to talk about tattoos.

 

[Gstank]

What a shitty season. Time to see what management has instore for the offseason

 

[CanucksMJL]

This is from the NHLPA not the NHL. I wouldn’t expect the NHL to even want to talk about tattoos.

I get the distinction, but I my point still stands.