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If we don’t win a lottery pick, what do you guys think of this trade?

Our 1st (9-10)
Myers

for

Tampa 1st
Murphy (50% retained)

We clear cap, improve our d, and still get a late first back.
 
I love Burroughs but he's a call up level player who can be a decent 4RD because your not looking at stunting development and if he sits thats ok and he's tough as nails but the minute he's playing over 30 games your playing with a offensive black hole and not a plus level puck mover either.

Jet Woo will have to clear waivers next year and might not be as tough but just might offer a bit more pop in his transition and offensive game while Johansson and McWard work on theirs in Abbotsford to the point of being either in that same spot or a regular top6.

Either way lets hope Myers can be off loaded or sent down or picked up in waivers if they get a couple surprises at camp. Burroughs agent will be looking for a better situation than Vancouver for Kyle me thinks that can offer that 4RD role
 
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The x factor that Burroughs brings is grit and willingness to fight if necessary. Outside of Joshua there's not really anyone else. (Yeah Miller will but we'd probably prefer he didn't.)

Fighting is less and less of a thing but still have someone in the lining who will, is a deterrent.
 
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Mr. Canucklehead said:
I'd like to see Burroughs back, but it feels like the Canucks are moving on.

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Apparently the Canucks are interested in "someone" from Quinnipiac. A few interesting prospects for another college FA signing on that roster.
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My guess would be Quillian, Brindarmour or Graf. I dont think we have enough room to be an attractive landing spot for Metsa
 
I'd be looking hard at Ottawa this offseason for a 3C (potentially 2C).

Pinto would be option one but would assume they don't make any decision until they figure out what's happening with Norris.

Next would be the cost to acquire Greig if Pinto is a no go.

Ideal would be trade Miller to Pit for a haul and replace (to some extent) with someone like Pinto.
 
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Mr. Canucklehead said:
I'd like to see Burroughs back, but it feels like the Canucks are moving on.

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Apparently the Canucks are interested in "someone" from Quinnipiac. A few interesting prospects for another college FA signing on that roster.
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Weird, it's a good mutual fit for both sides. But I agree that it does seem headed that way
 
Horvat2Alien said:
Not really they could agree to deal earlier in principle but hold off until bonus is paid.
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In theory sure, I don't really see that as a particularly realistic option. Again, most GM's will be focused on finalizing their rosters and getting ready for training camp, not working with the Canucks on some sort of unique and odd way to ensure Myers gets his bonus and then is traded. They could easily just decide not to go through with the trade in September and screw the Canucks over unless they sweeten the deal as well...the whole idea is sorta silly tbh.
 
Nucker101 said:
Weird, it's a good mutual fit for both sides. But I agree that it does seem headed that way
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I think the Canucks are trying to raise the bar on the back end. Burroughs looks decent because the bar is very low (I do like him). His competition has been Myers, Juulsen and Bear? Absolutely awful.

On my teams with even a half decent d he would crack their top 8.

Let’s keep in mind that guys like Highmore, Beagle, Roussel etc…. Looked okay on the Canucks and then we’re immediately out of the league when they left.
 
Nucker42 said:
I think the Canucks are trying to raise the bar on the back end. Burroughs looks decent because the bar is very low (I do like him). His competition has been Myers, Juulsen and Bear? Absolutely awful.

On my teams with even a half decent d he would crack their top 8.

Let’s keep in mind that guys like Highmore, Beagle, Roussel etc…. Looked okay on the Canucks and then we’re immediately out of the league when they left.
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I agree. So I wonder if they’re signalling that to him in contract talks and he’s going to try to find a team that envisions him as a #6/#7 dman on the nhl roster instead of a call-up.
 
moving on from burroughs is fine in a vacuum -- he's unlikely to ever be more than a depth guy -- but it's strange that the canucks don't seem interested in even trying to keep him as organizational depth. their right side depth going into next year is hronek, myers, johansson and mcward. pretty good chance bear is brought back and possibly juulsen or woo but that still leaves two pretty big question marks as the 4th and 5th guys on the list and that's all assuming myers is back
 
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credulous said:
moving on from burroughs is fine in a vacuum -- he's unlikely to ever be more than a depth guy -- but it's strange that the canucks don't seem interested in even trying to keep him as organizational depth. their right side depth going into next year is hronek, myers, johansson and mcward. pretty good chance bear is brought back and possibly juulsen or woo but that still leaves two pretty big question marks as the 4th and 5th guys on the list and that's all assuming myers is back
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I agree.. i think it is just coming down to price.. burroughs at 1.5 is a no go and i can totally see him looking for that on a multi year
 
credulous said:
moving on from burroughs is fine in a vacuum -- he's unlikely to ever be more than a depth guy -- but it's strange that the canucks don't seem interested in even trying to keep him as organizational depth. their right side depth going into next year is hronek, myers, johansson and mcward. pretty good chance bear is brought back and possibly juulsen or woo but that still leaves two pretty big question marks as the 4th and 5th guys on the list and that's all assuming myers is back
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I think they want to get a definitive upgrade. If Bear and Burroughs both move on, the Canucks can focus on a upgrades. You could replace a depth player like Burroughs (physical play) by bringing Schenn back and get an upgrade everywhere but the cap. That might push bear off the team, not good enough for top 4, too expensive for depth. Keep a spot open for a younger player a 4th D.

1 ????
2 Hronek
3 Schenn
4 Younger player

Worse case Myers stays Hronek Schenn Myers Prospect.
 
StickShift said:
Eh, Burroughs is a replacement level player. I wouldn’t pay a premium for results that you can get for half a million less.

There are a handful of similar defensemen available every off-season. Each typically capable of delivering a similar performance in similar minutes. Why pay the extra half-mil if you don’t have to?
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Grit and intelligence and skating.

Burr will throw down at a moments notice, doesn’t take stupid penalties and a pretty good skater.

No hesitation.
 
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me2 said:
I think they want to get a definitive upgrade. If Bear and Burroughs both move on, the Canucks can focus on a upgrades. You could replace a depth player like Burroughs (physical play) by bringing Schenn back and get an upgrade everywhere but the cap. That might push bear off the team, not good enough for top 4, too expensive for depth. Keep a spot open for a younger player a 4th D.

1 ????
2 Hronek
3 Schenn
4 Younger player

Worse case Myers stays Hronek Schenn Myers Prospect.
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Schenn's not an upgrade on anyone at this point. Maybe in the dressing room, but don't want anymore mentorpedes.

I expect Schenn will be back in the AHL before the end of his next contract.
 
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alternate said:
Schenn's not an upgrade on anyone at this point. Maybe in the dressing room, but don't want anymore mentorpedes.

I expect Schenn will be back in the AHL before the end of his next contract.
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Bargain bin 3rd liner Schenn is good value. I would not want him at 2.5-3.5m for multiple years.l
 
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