Canucks News, Rumours, & Fantasy GM | Part 2
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Diversification
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Reverend Mayhem
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I don't really have much to judge on Tocchet specifically, but I will say this - many coaches are flawed, but you kind of hope your's is flawed in the right way for the team. That's what makes a good fit. Ideally, the coach would adjust their system to the kind that best suits the players, but I'm not sure how many coaches around the league have a diverse enough strategic "hand to play from". Some coaches only hold certain "cards". Perhaps a lot of coaches do, but just don't get the right amount of time to "play" that card.
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Even $19m is probably too much for Arizona. Add to that the pain of a buyout that lasts until 2030.
Assuming the Canucks stay 9th there is more chance of dropping than rising in the draft: 9th 64.4, 10th 23.5, 2nd 5.4, 1st 5.0, 11th 1.7.
I fancy their chances of finishing 10th or lower given we play Arizona and the ducks to finish.
10th: (1/2) 3.5 3.8, (10/11/12) 73.318.40.9
11th: (1/2) 3.03.3, (11/12/13) 79.913.40.5
Factoring in the schedule I would say or most likely drafting spot is 10 > 11/9 >>> 2 > 1 > 12 >> 13
Nucker42
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Canucks really haven’t been able to move cap… they moved Dickinson in what most would say was a bad deal at the time.
They were able to flip Stillman for Bloom which eased the sting. They moved Lazar but he was cheap.
Other than Horvat they’ve either overpaid or not been able to move guys…
The most obvious path should be buying out OEL and attaching an asset to move Myers. I don’t want to waste money on OEL but since this team is clearly going for it then why not…
If you buy out OEL, move Myers and then move one of Garland/Boeser, all the sudden you have more than 15 million in extra cap space.
Way easier said than done because it’s the one thing this team hasn’t been able to do at all….
They were able to flip Stillman for Bloom which eased the sting. They moved Lazar but he was cheap.
Other than Horvat they’ve either overpaid or not been able to move guys…
The most obvious path should be buying out OEL and attaching an asset to move Myers. I don’t want to waste money on OEL but since this team is clearly going for it then why not…
If you buy out OEL, move Myers and then move one of Garland/Boeser, all the sudden you have more than 15 million in extra cap space.
Way easier said than done because it’s the one thing this team hasn’t been able to do at all….
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It’s pretty simple. This management group, regardless of the good they have done in pro scouting and rebuilding our player development so that our farm is respected, will be on the hot seat to start the season.
They have their coach and they gave a two year timeline while simultaneously scoffing at the notion of anything longer term. They said they wouldn’t trade picks.
It’s pretty non-negotiable to me that they need to pull a matchup 3rd line center and top four d at minimum this offseason. To do that, it’s going to take some combination of getting out of Myers/Boeser/OEL.
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100% enough talk about how tough it is, make a cap clearing move.
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i don't have much hope of the team making any real improvement in the standings next year but at the very least they need to set the table for 2024 and beyond by extending pettersson, extending or trading hronek and beauvillier and by cleaning up the cap table so that if and when they are able to bring in some more impact talents they can actually afford to hold onto them. if they keep making short term moves that prolong the cap pain they are just digging the hole deeper
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What short term moves..?
Beauvillier
Mikheyev
Kravtsov
Hirose
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Hronek
Bear
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extending boeser, turning horvat into more aggregate salary than horvat would have cost to extend, paying picks to move dickinson so they could sign mikheyev, going short on a kuzmenko extension.
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Yes. I genuinely do.
I think the fans will be pissed if they start like shit, but I also think ownership will be as well.
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Acquiring or signing the Beauvillier & Mikheyev contracts while having massive holes at center & defense is a self-created issue that this management group need to figure out this off-season. No excuses, they created this specific part of the mess.
Fair enough.. im not sure.. but could be if fans do the same old
Even if they stumble next year.. fans need to take the sell the team approach with the antics.. not mgmt again..
Is that impact players via trade or free agency?
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it doesn't matter. what matters is that if the canucks find a breakout star worth 5+ mil in 2024 or 2025 they can't really afford them without sacrificing another piece on this roster. if they're going to be a competitive team at some point they need to find some cap efficiency
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1) OEL being decent, like last year, or on LTIR would be huge.
2) Moving a winger for a guy like Dvorak to reallocate salary from wing to centre would be good.
3) Myers being traded for positive value, post bonus, or hung onto until he leaves is important. Can’t have another Ericsson + Beagle situation where we get a boat anchor for an expiring deal.
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One of them for sure needs to go but that will likely require commitment from ownership in making OEL’s contract go away. Not sure they’ll get that.
Hm...
OEL and Myers fell off a cliff this year. I do agree they should have funneled some of the money from wings to defense but it wasn't that catastrophic. They tried but weren't many good D men were available this summer... Klingberg, Manson, Chiarot... not exactly a great crop of Dmen.
Canucks started the year with Miller, Horvat and Petey down the middle. Not sure we had a massive hole at center per se until we traded Horvat.
I think the "mess" is being overblown a little bit.
Mikehyev and Beauv have been excellent for us so far. It's not like we invested money into absolute duds.
We turned Horvat to Hronek to address defense... we probably need one to two more good dmen to make a serious flip in the standings. Buying out OEL frees up 7M cap space and would give us money to do that.
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What is the long term future of Tanner Pearson.
Pearson was shut down with a hand injury on January 12th, he hurt the hand on November 9th.
The latest on Pearson is that he has had 6-7 surgeries so far and the hope is he is done with surgeries.
The re-hab is still a long road ahead for Pearson, still too early to know if he will play next season.
Ethan Bear is an RFA.
The 2 sides have resumed talks after a long period with no talks.
Talks with defenseman Noah Juulsen continue as well.
No talks yet with UFA defenseman Kyle Burroughs and goalie Colin Delia.
Been told Quinn Hughes will not play for the USA at the upcoming world hockey championships.
Also told it is unlikely JT Miller will play.
Nils Aman has surprised many with his play this season, it will not surprise anyone if he is on the list for Team Sweden to look at.
The Canucks have to make a decision on centre Connor Lockhart - 6th rounder in 2019 - he needs to be signed by June 1st 2023 or goes back in NHL draft.
Lockhart plays for Peterborough in OHL.
Same thing with center Arvid Costmar- 7th rounder in 2019 - he needs to be signed by June 1st 2023 or becomes a UFA.
Costmar plays in Linkopings in Sweden.
NCAA
2020 5th round pick, defenseman Jacob Truscott looks like he is going back for his senior year at Michigan.
He broke his thumb and did not play the last 2 months of the season.
2019 6th rounder - forward Jack Malone sounds like he is going back for his 5th year at Cornell.
I find it interesting if juulsen stays over burroughs.. personally because abby looks full and burroughs can play a better nhl shift than juuslen imo.. based on mobility alone.
I find the bottom end moves almost more intriguing than the upper moves.. so it will be interesting how this plays out
Although burroughs could be prixing himself out and i would not be surprised if he got a 2 or 3 year deal eslewhere at 1 to 1.5
I find the bottom end moves almost more intriguing than the upper moves.. so it will be interesting how this plays out
Although burroughs could be prixing himself out and i would not be surprised if he got a 2 or 3 year deal eslewhere at 1 to 1.5
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I wouldn't hate it if we bring back Burroughs at 2x1.5m. He brings some elements that we lack on the back end, and our RSD is pretty shallow. He can play well enough with Hughes and doesn't drag that pairing down too much. Obviously you don't want him anything higher than 3rd pairing, but he does offer up some short term flexibility in case of an injury. Cheap depth and if he regress, his contract would be bury-able.
Ideally 2x1m would be perfect, 2x1.25m is fair, 2x1.5m is the highest I'll go with him.
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