C/LW Cole Perfetti - Saginaw Spirit, OHL (2020, 10th, WPG)

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The kid has that it factor. Reminds me of a middle-ground of Marner and Jeff Skinner. Weaker skater than both of them, but everything else is unreal. Unreal IQ, hands, shot and passing. He should be in the discussion for 2 right now.


I still think the size and skill package from Byfield and the 200 foot game of Hendrix will have them ahead but Cole is such a dynamic offensive force that he might make it very interesting.
 
I still think the size and skill package from Byfield and the 200 foot game of Hendrix will have them ahead but Cole is such a dynamic offensive force that he might make it very interesting.
Haven't seen enough from Lapierre. Byfield has unreal tools, but I'm not sure he has that special it factor which really makes truly elite players. I think Perfetti has that. He just always knows where to be and is a step ahead of the play.
 
Haven't seen enough from Lapierre. Byfield has unreal tools, but I'm not sure he has that special it factor which really makes truly elite players. I think Perfetti has that. He just always knows where to be and is a step ahead of the play.

I get that sense from Perfetti as well and I think he will be an elite point producer in the NHL.

Patrick Kane in production value although not directly comparable skaters, which is why I'm hesitant to do comparables.
 
I get that sense from Perfetti as well and I think he will be an elite point producer in the NHL.

Patrick Kane in production value although not directly comparable skaters, which is why I'm hesitant to do comparables.
As stated, he reminds me of the middle-ground between Marner and Jeff Skinner. Not sure he has the as crazy playmaking Marner does but has a way better shot at the same age, and he's a weaker skater than both but he has a similar level shot as Skinner, with better playmaking and hockey-Iq than Skinner.

I don't fault people for picking Byfield 2nd. To be honest, I still probably have Lucas Raymond at 2, as he offers a lot of what Perfetti does but with better skating.
 
Haven't seen enough from Lapierre. Byfield has unreal tools, but I'm not sure he has that special it factor which really makes truly elite players. I think Perfetti has that. He just always knows where to be and is a step ahead of the play.

He definitely has that “it” factor that cannot be quantified.
 
Haven't seen enough from Lapierre. Byfield has unreal tools, but I'm not sure he has that special it factor which really makes truly elite players. I think Perfetti has that. He just always knows where to be and is a step ahead of the play.

Lol Byfield is so far from being done developing. He has all the tools to be elite more than any player to come through the draft since Mcdavid. Lets see if he has the engine to get there. I see a 200 foot more consistent Malkin with not as good a shot when he hits his prime.
 
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I could see Perfetti #2 next June. Right now, I have it

1. Lafreniere
2. Raymond
3. Perfetti

(Lundell, Drysdale, Holtz, Byfield and Rossi battling for 4-8)
 
Lol Byfield is so far from being done developing. He has all the tools to be elite more than any player to come through the draft since Mcdavid. Lets see if he has the engine to get there. I see a 200 foot more consistent Malkin with not as good a shot when he hits his prime.
I'm not sure Byfield has that distinguishing skills. Having seen what the really hyped and special players look like in the OHL at 16, he isn't in the discussion with guys like Stamkos, Tavares, and McDavid. I'm also not sure he is likely to end up better or has better tools than what Matthews and Eichel had. Obviously, Byfield has crazy tools, but we will see if he ever get the type of consistency needed. I don't think he will reach what you are projecting. I think the likelihood of him being a clear top 3 player in the league for a decade is quite minimal.
 
What's "below above-average"? Average maybe? :laugh:

I think so. I didn't want to say average because I don't think its abundantly settled that Perfetti's skating is average. It might be below-average, especially when you factor in his size. I also think you rarely see players drafted in the top five that aren't at least 55 skaters on the 20-80 scale. And of the ones that aren't above-average skaters, none of them are below 6'0.
 
DeBrincat is 4th in scoring in his draft class. Although he wasn't drafted top 5, some would have him there in a redraft and he was criticized at the time for size and skating.

He went 39th. Perfetti could turn into a top five player in this draft class, but that wasn't what I asked. There's almost no recent precedent of teams taking a player like Perfetti in the top five. I think it'll be a situation to watch unfold throughout the season. Will he be the player that breaks that barrier for players that are smaller and not great skaters? Some of them will turn into good NHL'ers, but they aren't picked in the top five.
 
His skating has improved dramatically, he is stronger and more fit. His balance and edges are elite and his speed is at least average and his elite IQ makes him even faster.
 
He went 39th. Perfetti could turn into a top five player in this draft class, but that wasn't what I asked. There's almost no recent precedent of teams taking a player like Perfetti in the top five. I think it'll be a situation to watch unfold throughout the season. Will he be the player that breaks that barrier for players that are smaller and not great skaters? Some of them will turn into good NHL'ers, but they aren't picked in the top five.

Draisaitl didn’t have great skating and went top 5. He easily goes #1 in a redraft.

He’s become a very powerful skater.

Mind you, he was also a lot bigger compared to Perfetti.

I honestly don’t think Perfetti’s skating will hold him back, he’s got that elite “it” factor along with unbelievable hands, shooting, and overall hockey IQ.
 
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Draisaitl didn’t have great skating and went top 5. He easily goes #1 in a redraft.

He’s become a very powerful skater.

Mind you, he was also a lot bigger compared to Perfetti.

I honestly don’t think Perfetti’s skating will hold him back, he’s got that elite “it” factor along with unbelievable hands, shooting, and overall hockey IQ.
Closest is Skinner who went 7th in 2010. He had better edge-work and was faster, but wasn't an elite end to end guy skating. Marner is a good skater, and insanely elusive when combined with his hands, but a few people on the leafs can beat him end to end without the puck (Kapanen, Nylander, and Rielly quite comfortably). Now, if you give him a puck and an agility course, he probably beats all 3. Peretti is a worse skater than both, but obviously, the league is shifting, so a new precedent being set wouldn't exactly shock me. The idea of a sub 5'10 or so defender going top 10 (which is probably around what Q. Hughes actually would have measured) would have been blasphemous 5 years ago.
 
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He went 39th. Perfetti could turn into a top five player in this draft class, but that wasn't what I asked. There's almost no recent precedent of teams taking a player like Perfetti in the top five. I think it'll be a situation to watch unfold throughout the season. Will he be the player that breaks that barrier for players that are smaller and not great skaters? Some of them will turn into good NHL'ers, but they aren't picked in the top five.
I'm not saying Perfetti is a lock for top 5. What I am saying is DeBrincat didn't even make the 1st round because there was that lack of precedent. That ended up being a huge mistake and made a lot of GMs look stupid. Happened again with Caufield dropping out of the top 10. That's going to make a few GMs look stupid. If all you do is trust what others have done in the past, you're not learning from mistakes.
 
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He definitely has that “it” factor that cannot be quantified.
I think the "it" he has is that he's really smart out there, he is always making plays or positioning himself on the ice where he can be dangerous or get something dangerous in motion, he's is really Johnny on the spot and it's no accident why he is, high hockey i.q, you can see it plain as day.

Double that up with his sweet mitts and hard shot and you've got a player who has the hard to quantify IT.
 
He definitely has that “it” factor that cannot be quantified.
This doesn't exist, unless we're talking for marketing purposes, in which case the term tends to be "charisma". In terms of gameplay, everything can be broken down.

Myself, I've never been that big on making overblown conclusions based on the Hlinka memorial. Of course, Perfetti was already rated highly and this is even more a reason to follow his season. Some impressive stuff with his hands. It'll be interesting to follow what he can do.
 
Big knock on him going into the year was his skating. Definitely doesn’t seem like any kind of significant problem from this tournament.

At this point, he has to be a top-5 prospect for everyone. I’d put him at 3, but he’ll make a real push on Laf, I hope.

I doubt he makes a push on Lafreniere. That was a huge game today/tournament for Perfetti but dont let recency cloud your judgement. If Lafreniere was playing in this tournament he would blow the doors off of it, playing 2 years before his draft he dominated and that was before he led the entire Q in scoring.
 
Closest is Skinner who went 7th in 2010. He had better edge-work and was faster, but wasn't an elite end to end guy skating. Marner is a good skater, and insanely elusive when combined with his hands, but a few people on the leafs can beat him end to end without the puck (Kapanen, Nylander, and Rielly quite comfortably). Now, if you give him a puck and an agility course, he probably beats all 3. Peretti is a worse skater than both, but obviously, the league is shifting, so a new precedent being set wouldn't exactly shock me. The idea of a sub 5'10 or so defender going top 10 (which is probably around what Q. Hughes actually would have measured) would have been blasphemous 5 years ago.

I don't see Perfetti's skating is as too much of a weakness. He has the same size/speed make-up as Claude Giroux. And like Giroux, he creates plenty of space with other tools.

(Giroux not the perfect comp...but I get the same "easy to forget he is small and slow" vibe when watching Perfetti)
 

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