Post-Game Talk: Bruins 4 at Canucks 0

[CanaFan]

It's funny how much some people feel Vrbata's stock has dropped.

Guy still gets a mid-to-late 1st or equivalent prospect near the TDL.

I'd say that's higher value than a "borderline 3C on a bad contract."

Unless that was a Sutter trade reference...

Early December is not the same as TDL. Values of players - esp those on expiring contracts - are massively inflated by the pressure of "going for it". Teams aren't subject to that right now.

Also you have to differentiate between a non-roster asset like a draft pick and an actual roster player. At the TDL teams are looking to add "now" and pay "later", which is why Vrbata could probably fetch a first from a strong team looking to add a goal scoring boost. But that is quite different from making a player-for-player trade, where the deal is made more rationally on the merits of the playing being added vs the player being dealt.

Based on his play to date - including a whopping 6 goals - what kind of "quality" do you think Vrbata would bring back? Vrbata himself is playing like a borderline 3rd liner and is a UFA in 6 months. I'd be surprised if he could bring back any sort of roster player TBH.

 

[Tobi Wan Kenobi]

Big game for the Canucks to lose tonight. All the teams around us won last night and we've played more games. A loss tonight and a Anaheim win puts us around 7th in the draft order. Striking distance for one of the 3 lottery picks!

 

[ahmon]

IMO this is the game to make Marchand pay for all of his antics.

I care less if we win or lose, I want to see some retribution.

 

[JuniorNelson]

IMO this is the game to make Marchand pay for all of his antics.

I care less if we win or lose, I want to see some retribution.

Canucks roster does not feature any takers of retribution.

 

[ahmon]

Canucks roster does not feature any takers of retribution.

You don't need really tough players to retribute on Marchand....

at least it would be funny watching him run and hide behind chara.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Early December is not the same as TDL. Values of players - esp those on expiring contracts - are massively inflated by the pressure of "going for it". Teams aren't subject to that right now.

Also you have to differentiate between a non-roster asset like a draft pick and an actual roster player. At the TDL teams are looking to add "now" and pay "later", which is why Vrbata could probably fetch a first from a strong team looking to add a goal scoring boost. But that is quite different from making a player-for-player trade, where the deal is made more rationally on the merits of the playing being added vs the player being dealt.

Based on his play to date - including a whopping 6 goals - what kind of "quality" do you think Vrbata would bring back? Vrbata himself is playing like a borderline 3rd liner and is a UFA in 6 months. I'd be surprised if he could bring back any sort of roster player TBH.

Why would the Canucks consider trading him for a roster player (oh right, Benning)?

I think most GMs aren't so short sighted to value him solely on his play so far this season.

Agreed on the value difference between a roster player at this time of the season compared to future assets closer to the TDL, but you'd hope that Benning isn't so incompetent to trade him for roster help now.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

$8.50 beers is gross, been many times.

Where do fans go pre game?

Kingston, Shark, Pint?

Best place to watch Canucks games is Blarney Stone High back lounger chairs in front a 20 FT screen. Never busy, decent food. (TUES $2 sliders are legit)

Pre-game at the Pint.

Disclaimer: i HATE these places otherwise.

 

[Canucks LB]

Today is a good bet for canucks win.

Back to back

 

[JuniorNelson]

Maybe somebody thumping Marchand would wake the Canucks up? Might as well try it.

 

[CanaFan]

Why would the Canucks consider trading him for a roster player (oh right, Benning)

No reason that I can think of but that was the premise of the post that I was replying to.

Do you think something (anything) would be set in motion if we get blown out tonight? Hopefully Benning doesn't trade Shinkaruk...

 

[Gaunce4gm]

Hello everyone. This is my First post on HF! I've been reading for years but never made an account. Been a Canucks fan for years but live across the water in Victoria BC. See lots of royals games and will try and keep everyone updated. Just a few of my opinions... Anti Benning, anti Desjardins, pro rebuild, pro youth movement, still like Baertschi, don't hate sbisa as much this year but still think benning should have taken him to arbitration and signed him for less a la Raymond. Go Canucks!

 

[CherryToke]

without Sutter this team is ****ed. I"m gonna have to join teamtank now. go Bruins!

 

[CanaFan]

Hello everyone. This is my First post on HF! I've been reading for years but never made an account. Been a Canucks fan for years but live across the water in Victoria BC. See lots of royals games and will try and keep everyone updated. Just a few of my opinions... Anti Benning, anti Desjardins, pro rebuild, pro youth movement, still like Baertschi, don't hate sbisa as much this year but still think benning should have taken him to arbitration and signed him for less a la Raymond. Go Canucks!

Welcome. And from your bio I think we'll get along swimmingly.

 

[Gaunce4gm]

I won 2 seats at the Canucks Vs Tampa game on January 9th... Hoping Virtz is good to go by then and sutter is still injured. Predicting a 7-1 Tampa victory if Miller starts. 3-2 Canucks if Markstrom starts. This will be my first Nucks game!

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

I won 2 seats at the Canucks Vs Tampa game on January 9th... Hoping Virtz is good to go by then and sutter is still injured. Predicting a 7-1 Tampa victory if Miller starts. 3-2 Canucks if Markstrom starts. This will be my first Nucks game!

First post, first game..... you're just full of new adventures.

Welcome to the board... and enjoy the game.

We should be in full tank mode by then.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

That means we might have a chance....sigh

 

[thepoeticgoblin]

Woah, Marky? Really didn't expect that. Please hockey gods, make him put pressure on Miller.

 

[damack]

You don't need really tough players to retribute on Marchand....

at least it would be funny watching him run and hide behind chara.

who's going to do it?

Dorsett? Prust? While Marchand is one of the biggest pieces of dung in the league, he's a decent player that puts up points. Why would he even consider getting into it with a plug? That and the plugs aren't good enough to catch him anyways so they'd likely just take penalties trying. And I hate Marchand.

Wouldn't mind seeing Burrows give him a run though. Greasy vs greasy, nothing wrong with that.

 

[NoShowWilly]

would like to see

Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Biega
Hutton Sbisa

 

[iceburg]

would like to see

Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Biega
Hutton Sbisa

This is the top 6 when everyone is healthy. But you'll see Bartkowski against Boston.

 

[MikeK]

With the B's on the back half of a double we'll actually have a good chance tonight, especially if Markstrom is in.

 

[Bad Goalie]

This is the top 6 when everyone is healthy. But you'll see Bartkowski against Boston.

Yep, Bartkowski will be in, Weber is #7 and the Utica call-up is #8. The call-up can't play ahead of WD's roster boys no matter what. The fact that Biega (an AHL call-up) ended up carrying Bart (the NHL roster player) instead of the other way around and Hamhuis is in the twilight zone, Bart will slate in and Biega will eat more peanuts, popcorn, and cracker jacks.

 

[NoShowWilly]

This is the top 6 when everyone is healthy. But you'll see Bartkowski against Boston.

then i'd like to see

Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Bartkowski
Hutton Biega

weber needs to sit. is sbisa healthy?

 

[Bad Goalie]

then i'd like to see

Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Bartkowski
Hutton Biega

weber needs to sit. is sbisa healthy?

"Hutton Biega"

This is a perfect pairing.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Hello everyone. This is my First post on HF! I've been reading for years but never made an account. Been a Canucks fan for years but live across the water in Victoria BC. See lots of royals games and will try and keep everyone updated. Just a few of my opinions... Anti Benning, anti Desjardins, pro rebuild, pro youth movement, still like Baertschi, don't hate sbisa as much this year but still think benning should have taken him to arbitration and signed him for less a la Raymond. Go Canucks!

Welcome! We'll have you souring on everything Canuck in no time.