Seravalli: Broberg/agent requesting a trade (mod: title updated, Oilers didn’t give permission to Broberg to seek a trade)

[leeroggy]

Maybe someone like Simon Holmstrom?

Not a f***ing chance

Holmstrom is on his way to being a 2nd line stud

 

[EXTRAS]

Broberg has done well at the AHL level. At some point it's all gonna click and people are gonna regret sleeping on him.

 

[bernmeister]

Paging @bernmeister your boy is available.

Am busy atm but hope later tonite to post a comprehensive EDM-NYR deal whcih will include basically Jones for Broberg
gives Oil cheap, useful 3rd pair guy who can skate, pass, play sufficient D [just not clear the crease] while Rs get better upside guy they can try to rehab for a 7th D for this season, maybe beyond.
Bro can clear waivers, right?
Jones can not.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Broberg in the SHL looked like a completely brainless hockey player, maybe one of the worst I've seen with such a high draft pedigree. Not surprised things haven't worked out.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Am busy atm but hope later tonite to post a comprehensive EDM-NYR deal whcih will include basically Jones for Broberg
gives Oil cheap, useful 3rd pair guy who can skate, pass, play sufficient D [just not clear the crease] while Rs get better upside guy they can try to rehab for a 7th D for this season, maybe beyond.
Bro can clear waivers, right?
Jones can not.

Doesn't do much for Edmonton. Actually doesn't do anything for Edmonton except swap Broberg for his trash-compacted version with lower upside.

 

[sepster]

Combing through this thread and reading comments on Holland's managing style, Wright's drafting ability, and a prospect just needing a little more time and runway to put it all together will trigger most Wings fans' PTSD.

 

[Guttersniped]

I wouldn't be completely shocked if the Oilers did something stupid like:

Campbell & Broberg
for
Elvis

Not sure if CBJ has any need for Broberg though.

Elvis has the same term, makes more money and has been equally bad. Can't see Campbell needing 3 firsts if he is the return.

Elvis had a brutal 22-23, as did Columbus in general, but I doubt Columbus views him being as bad when he’s been way better this season and their guy.

The Jackets have a ton of defensive prospects/ young defenders so Broberg is unlikely to tempt them to swap to a most likely worse goalie.

Spoiler: Evolving Hockey 19-20 vs 23-24

 

[StewieP19]

The first time I see Broberg play I can see his defense ability.
He's not the guy who puts a lot of # on board but can be effective in defense.
Probably return a 3 or a 4th round pick and a b or c prospect.

 

[sting101]

The Oilers draft management since landing McDrai is absolutely pathetic & embarassing.

Not to pile on the Oilers because they are better than their record and the last 2 yrs were certainly close to going on a deeper run than they did but WHOLLY HELL what is the matter with the development process?

Just so classic to not surround these young players with quality vets in sheltered roles and bring them along slowly in the AHL vs thrust into NHL roles because of draft position or because of a small spike in play and then wonder why they crumble under the pressure or role they are asked to do.

Holland should know better and the group before was an embarrassment. Yamamoto Broberg Holloway all tasked with too much too soon. How about let them dominate the AHL and at least 100-120 games before thrusting into playoff NHL key roles you idiots. It's a tall task to play in a playoff teams bottom 6 and be good defensively asking 20-22yr olds to do it usually fails especially if those players are transitioning from scorer to checker during this growth period. Shocker when neither works out?

Not gonna lie it's kinda sad watching the Oilers fumble this. No wonder McDavid and Draisaitl look so frustrated so often. Management either overspends, puts players in positions to fail or cant figure out that they could use picks to get cap space and players that fit vs trying to balance drafting and waiting for the next wave with 2 superstars time running out

This is the guy that Benning was rumored to be willing to draft even though scouts were telling him undeniably that he was not a guy they liked

wanted to pair him Oli Juolevi probs

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Combing through this thread and reading comments on Holland's managing style, Wright's drafting ability, and a prospect just needing a little more time and runway to put it all together will trigger most Wings fans' PTSD.

I have no idea how Tyler Wright got not one, but two director of amateur scouting gigs. Dude is a horrendous drafter.

 

[M2Beezy]

Can see a interdivsional trade with the Canucks working out for both teams here:

To Edmonton: Karlsson, 2026 6th, 2027 7th

To Vancouver: Broberg, 2024 3rd

Edmonton clearly gets the better player now in Karlsson who is game ready to be a middle six mucker for the Oilers, adding some energy and sandpaper they DESPERATELY need. Canucks get a depth reclamation project that they have time to try in turn his game around, plus get the better pick for giving up the better player

 

[Frenzy31]

Classic Oilers. Hold onto a “promising” prospect until they sewer their value and then give them away for pennies. God forbid you used this pick or player to make an upgrade to your roster a couple years ago.

Next will be Holloway in a year or two and after that Bourgault.

Oh come on. Oilers fans would have had him as a non-starter a year ago. He would have been consider a core and not sold unless major overpayment.

 

[34]

Bust anyway.

 

[bernmeister]

2026 5th + 2027 7th + Boo Nieves' ghost + 2028 7th + Zachary Berzolla for Broberg + 5th + 7th ahhh yeah
....

how little you know/understand me

 

[Petes2424]

This is a tough one to swallow for the Oilers, because once you reach this point, the team has come to terms with not getting much in return. Throw on top, he had some playoff games last spring where you seen what people like about him. So he has a legitimate chance to move on, and still become a good NHL dman.

Really tough cause he’s still on his ELC too.

 

[McSuper]

Maybe Oilers fans have seen him more and can clarify but each time I’ve seen him he’s been underwhelming. Got beat one on one frequently, was outmuscled, and made terrible decisions with the puck when facing pressure and forecheck. Seemed ok with time and space.

All we heard is he was the best D man on the Oilers , except in real games. He weak gets hurt if the wind from a players rushing by hits him. Oilers has no good that is capable of covering for his mistakes and letting him build confidence. 1 mistake and he on the bench. Mean while 10 mistake a game from Nurse and Bouchard and they are still aloud to run wild with no structure imposed upon them.

As for Holland ruining the Oilers, they are a far better team since he arrived but for every good move he makes he makes a bad draft pick and a bad signing.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Said it was an awful pick on his draft day and nothing I've seen since then has changed my mind. The NHL is a very fast game, much like Puljujarvi Broberg does not process the game at a high enough rate to make effective decisions.

Oilers love their toolsy project picks. You really need to have a strong development system if you're going to spend so much draft capital on those kind of players.

will guess he ends up in SJ

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Can see a interdivsional trade with the Canucks working out for both teams here:

To Edmonton: Karlsson, 2026 6th, 2027 7th

To Vancouver: Broberg, 2024 3rd

Edmonton clearly gets the better player now in Karlsson who is game ready to be a middle six mucker for the Oilers, adding some energy and sandpaper they DESPERATELY need. Canucks get a depth reclamation project that they have time to try in turn his game around, plus get the better pick for giving up the better player

wait what?

I'm not sure at all that a 24 year old AHLer is "clearly" the better player, and why are we adding the better pick? Real Bernmeister proposal here.

Also we don't have a third this year.

 

[McSuper]

So does this mean Holland is too lazy to try and find a trade partner for Broberg? If Broberg gets traded it will be because Broberg's agent did all the work?
Do your job Holland.

He is old. He needs a regular nap time and that can't be changed or he will lose him mind.

Who am I kidding. He apparently had his nap time interrupted how else can you explain his drafting and his Campbell signing.

In Edmonton players have to trade them selves

Or ex Oilers apparently . See Barrie.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

Edmonton and Montreal need to fire every scout that they employ

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think a deal should be done around Campbell/Broberg for Vlasic/Blackwood. Everyone knows about Campbell's struggles, and it sounds like San Jose is ready to dump Vlasic. He's basically a 7D at this point, but maybe he adds some veteran leadership in Edmonton. 5.86 cap out vs 9.35 cap in, so maybe SJ retains or Edmonton adds a cap dump, but I think this is a good starting point for a deal

Edmonton doesn't really have a cap dump outside of Campbell. Foegele and Kulak are both useful and have value. Retention would have to be the way to go.

Though really I'd just rather buy Campbell out. Vlasic's buyout is pretty awful.

 

[n8]

Doesn't do much for Edmonton. Actually doesn't do anything for Edmonton except swap Broberg for his trash-compacted version with lower upside.

Broberg arguably does not do much for Edmonton either. Surprisingly reasonable swap of 7Ds. More of a change of scenery trade. I wouldn't do it myself.
I'm not overselling Jones but he does have 11 points in 49 games. 66 points in 106 AHL games. Great skater and puck mover. He can play PP and make plays. pretty decent hockey IQ. Broberg is physically bigger. 11 points in 79 games. 26 points in 42 AHL games. Known for lower hockey IQ even though it has improved in past seasons. So yes, Jones is smaller but has higher offensive upside. The real problem is he's also a LD and behind Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak, he's not gonna get much ice time unless someone is injured or sick but that's the same situation both Jones and Broberg right now. Totally lateral trade. It'd be strictly a change of scenery.

 

[McSuper]

Edmonton's LD is Ekholm, Nurse, and Kulak. He's not better than any of them are right now. We tried him on the right side but he's - respectfully - pretty stupid, he looked like a fish out of water. And he also once hurt himself trying to cut a steak (I'm not kidding)

Dustin Penner long lost cousin, steak or pancake all the same in Edmonton world.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Broberg arguably does not do much for Edmonton either. Surprisingly reasonable swap of 7Ds. More of a change of scenery trade. I wouldn't do it myself.
I'm not overselling Jones but he does have 11 points in 49 games. 66 points in 106 AHL games. Great skater and puck mover. He can play PP and make plays. pretty decent hockey IQ. Broberg is physically bigger. 11 points in 79 games. 26 points in 42 AHL games. Known for lower hockey IQ even though it has improved in past seasons. So yes, Jones is smaller but has higher offensive upside. The real problem is he's also a LD and behind Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak, he's not gonna get much ice time unless someone is injured or sick but that's the same situation both Jones and Broberg right now. Totally lateral trade. It'd be strictly a change of scenery.

I don't think Edmonton has any interest in getting a 7D back. They could pretty easily bring Gleason up to cover off that spot, and Broberg isn't any more likely to get playing time in New York than he is here. I sincerely doubt Ken Holland the size queen would ever sign off on bringing in a 5'10 170lb defenceman not named Cale for his precious.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Broberg strikes me as one of those dmen who may struggle until he's in his late 20s in the NHL game. I could totally see him bouncing around to a few teams before becoming a regular 2nd pairing guy.