Seravalli: Broberg/agent requesting a trade (mod: title updated, Oilers didn’t give permission to Broberg to seek a trade)

[joestevens29]

the local media guys are saying Edmonton wants a forward in return.

Sounds like maybe they want to tweak the bottom 6 with a Broberg trade, but at the same time we still are going to need another d-man.

Dineen/Gleason being the next call up are good for the pressbox and spot work, but we get an injury I think we need another vet.

 

[bernmeister]

Broberg arguably does not do much for Edmonton either. Surprisingly reasonable swap of 7Ds. More of a change of scenery trade. I wouldn't do it myself.
I'm not overselling Jones but he does have 11 points in 49 games. 66 points in 106 AHL games. Great skater and puck mover. He can play PP and make plays. pretty decent hockey IQ. Broberg is physically bigger. 11 points in 79 games. 26 points in 42 AHL games. Known for lower hockey IQ even though it has improved in past seasons. So yes, Jones is smaller but has higher offensive upside. The real problem is he's also a LD and behind Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak, he's not gonna get much ice time unless someone is injured or sick but that's the same situation both Jones and Broberg right now. Totally lateral trade. It'd be strictly a change of scenery.

Adding also Jones a lefty but can play either side

 

[pth2]

Yes, I'm disagreeing with both of their against the consensus picks considering the consensus players taken after them thus far look like they would have undeniably been the right selection. Top 5 is generally where you're going to find superstar talent and that's the biggest missing piece in Montreal's organization

If you want to buy in that Kotkaniemi was the right selection over Tkachuk and Hughes then I have some very interesting business proposals I'd love to discuss with you

You realize that not getting the best player available doesn't mean a pick was bad, right? Or am I talking to a child ?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You realize that not getting the best player available doesn't mean a pick was bad, right? Or am I talking to a child ?

When the fanbase was screaming for any of Zegras, Boldy, or Caufield and management reaches for a guy ranked 15-20 and then trades him for pennies on the dollar five years later, it's pretty definitively a bad pick.

 

[ole ole]

So does this mean Holland is too lazy to try and find a trade partner for Broberg? If Broberg gets traded it will be because Broberg's agent did all the work?
Do your job Holland.

Or Holland tried and couldn't find any takers.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

The crazy thing is that the Broberg/Bouchard pairing was doing really well last year together (before the Ekholm trade). Yes they were getting sheltered minutes, but it showed that Broberg could handle NHL minutes.

I stole this from a Reddit post:

"Broberg and Bouchard (while playing sheltered minutes) are otherworldly since getting paired together. Last 10 games 66 CF%, 77 GF%, 73 xGF%, 80 HDCF% together"

Once the Ekholm for Barrie trade went down, it pushed Broberg down to 4LD and when he has played this year, it's either part of an 11/7 or on his off side.

I think they played the most sheltered minutes of almost any pairing at that point.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

So does this mean Holland is too lazy to try and find a trade partner for Broberg? If Broberg gets traded it will be because Broberg's agent did all the work?
Do your job Holland.

I find that this sort of thing usually means the GM told the player he tried to find a trade and couldn't. Could be a precursor to Broberg being put on waivers.

 

[xECK29x]

Broberg for Wahlstrom makes a lot of sense

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I find that this sort of thing usually means the GM told the player he tried to find a trade and couldn't. Could be a precursor to Broberg being put on waivers.

Broberg is not waiver eligible.

In this case I think it's more the player isn't happy not playing. The team doesn't want to trade him and never has.

 

[bernmeister]

My expectation is that Broberg becomes serviceable *eventually*

Fluid skater with size - the question is what team wants to spend the next few years developing their future # 4 / 5 dman?

Rs have enuf here and prospects we can go there
? is what currency is a mutual fit given Bro's diminished value

Boo Nieves' ghost is redundant.

point proffered...

It's the most valuable thing in there.


I'm assuming Broberg needs waivers ?

point taken

also bro does not need waivers this yr is my understanding.

The question now, with the price that low, how to include 6 other teams into that trade.
Bernmeister is not interested if less than 5 teams are involved

bern goes there when unavoidably necessary.
people want simple solutions to complex problems = rule not the exception
= one reason why so few deals are made
esp since cap is hard + unyielding

go for best deal regardless of how simple or complex

Broberg for Wahlstrom makes a lot of sense

Today Wahl>>
so not seeing it esp 1:1

 

[TropicOfNoReturn]

No, the way that Holland ruined the Oilers was by being so shit in his time there so far.

The fact that Broberg ended up a complete dud that they're going to throw away for very little is another example of him being horrible.

Right, because every highly touted young prospect drafted into the NHL is destined to for a long, successful career in the league.

Maybe he's just not good enough. Maybe drafting kids at 18 (long before their brains and bodies are fully formed) and assuming we know how they'll progress physically and mentally, regardless of external conditions and circumstances, is a little ridiculous.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Bouchard
McLeod
Hamblin
Desharnais
Holloway

Not exactly murderers row from the 8 drafts either, considering they’ve used their 1st rounder in every draft except the last (although I’m rooting for Hamblin).

Every Edmonton first round pick since McDavid has combined for 29 points across the NHL this year, which is hilarious once you realize Bouchard has 22 of the 29.

Hamblin wasn't even drafted. Holland has been terrible with not only drafting but using draft capital in trades outside the Ekholm deal. About the only good move he's made outside signing Kane and Hyman.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Right, because every highly touted young prospect drafted into the NHL is destined to for a long, successful career in the league.

Maybe he's just not good enough. Maybe drafting kids at 18 (long before their brains and bodies are fully formed) and assuming we know how they'll progress physically and mentally, regardless of external conditions and circumstances, is a little ridiculous.

It's not a single player, it's a trend of players drafted by Edmonton that fail to live up to expectations. Go look at their drafting history over the last 15 years, it's atrocious.

Holland has continued that trend of drafting horrendously ever since he joined the Oilers.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

2019 has turned out to be a crappy draft. One of the worst drafts.

What? Lol.

Just in the first 15 picks:

Hughes
Seider
Cozens
Boldy
Zegras
Caufield
Byram
Knight
Kakko
Dach
York

Besides Moritz and Byram the draft was a waste for defenseman

Nobody was forcing them to take a dman.

 

[Rubi]

Or Holland tried and couldn't find any takers.

At least at the price he was demanding. Easy to say you can't find a buyer when the price you are asking is too high. I find it hard to believe that with 31 teams not a single team wanted a $836,000 Broberg. I'm more likely to believe it was a lack of effort and inflexibility on Holland's part. But then who am I to judge. Holland has probably been spending every waking minute looking for that savior goalie.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Broberg to Winnipeg
Logan Stanley to Edmonton

 

[Fatass]

Broberg is not waiver eligible.

In this case I think it's more the player isn't happy not playing. The team doesn't want to trade him and never has.

Why don’t the Oilers just send him to the minors?

 

[Rubi]

Why don’t the Oilers just send him to the minors?

Good question. They've given up on him and don't see him in their future plans? Their defense is so terrible that even a bad Broberg is better than no Broberg?

 

[Sendhelplease]

Broberg to the Sharks for Thomas Bordeleau could make some sense. We are discussing it on the Sharks board...

 

[MS]

Watching Broberg from the U18s in his draft year through the WJCs and through the AHL, this was always a player with a 'top 4 skillset' who processed the game like a bottom-pairing defender.

I wouldn't say he's a 'dumb' player but he's a guy who just doesn't process the game at a high level and is working really, really hard to just react to what's happening in front of him and make safe plays.

Some team might be able to rehab him into a big, serviceable 5-6 defender but he was always a huge reach where Edmonton took him.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Broberg is not waiver eligible.

In this case I think it's more the player isn't happy not playing. The team doesn't want to trade him and never has.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you could still waive the player, since the goal is not to send Broberg to the AHL but rather Broberg wants to go to a different team. The Oilers giving his agent permission to look for a trade makes me think that they are not looking for a return of any kind but rather just to mutually part ways.

 

[DJJones]

Shit I didn't realize he was #8. Some good players came after him.

 

[Three On Zero]

Has the value of a 3rd to 5th round pick, or another struggling prospect swap

 

[0494]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you could still waive the player, since the goal is not to send Broberg to the AHL but rather Broberg wants to go to a different team. The Oilers giving his agent permission to look for a trade makes me think that they are not looking for a return of any kind but rather just to mutually part ways.

I always thought the idea in these scenarios was for the agent to find a landing spot and for the GM to then work out a deal with that team. It wouldn't necessarily mean that Edmonton would want to give him away but the value is probably low.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

meh Broberg would be stuck, or at least split, with Bjornfot

Bjornfot is a trade candidate. Rumor last season was that he was being offered for Chychrun. Use him as a piece for a goalie.