It could simply be by trading Jarnkrok.
Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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There’s no chance I’m letting Nylander go so we can keep JT at this point. Make it work until JT inevitably goes down in price. Nylander is very underrated
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BT biggest job with the leafs is to find a way to be over the cap by 10-18 million in the playoffs like the last two cup champs. If he can figure that out we have a good chance for a cup. Cmon Brad you can do it!!!
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Yeah possibly. Might be harder to trade with his term but it's not like its not doable.
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OK Tre... OKAY
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How Matthews, Maple Leafs settled on deal: ‘He could demand a whole lot more’
Relatively short term with a massive chunk of the salary in tow, how did Auston Matthews and the Maple Leafs settle on a deal that alleviated one of the bigger questions facing the team this offseason?
Or just sending down Robertson, Holmberg, Gambrell and Jones.
I don't understand why people think It's complicated It's very VERY simple
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While I'm happy with his performance so far, I still wouldn't say Treliving is doing a "great" job.
That's a bit of a stretch. He's not doing a bad job. He's just kinda, you know, doing his job.
The important thing is I think he's doing a better job than Dubas would have if he were still around.
Even the most ardent defenders aren't calling the Matthews contract a homerun. Nylander is still a question mark. Keefe's still a lame duck coach.
I like the Bertuzzi signing.
Too bad Klingberg cancels that one out. Even still, I think the Klingberg signing stinks SO bad, it can only surprise me on the upside. Everything else has been pretty run of the mill GM'ing.
Nothing extraordinary really.
To be honest, a kid in high school sitting around smoking dope in the basement all day probably could have called all the same shots.
That's a bit of a stretch. He's not doing a bad job. He's just kinda, you know, doing his job.
The important thing is I think he's doing a better job than Dubas would have if he were still around.
Even the most ardent defenders aren't calling the Matthews contract a homerun. Nylander is still a question mark. Keefe's still a lame duck coach.
I like the Bertuzzi signing.
Too bad Klingberg cancels that one out. Even still, I think the Klingberg signing stinks SO bad, it can only surprise me on the upside. Everything else has been pretty run of the mill GM'ing.
Nothing extraordinary really.
To be honest, a kid in high school sitting around smoking dope in the basement all day probably could have called all the same shots.
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Pretty happy with most of Tre's moves. Love the Domi and Bertuzzi signings. Neutral on Reaves addition. Not happy about the Klingberg and Kampf signings, and the losses of Schenn and Acciari. Did as well as he could on the Matthews contract given where the previous GM left him starting off from.
We were comfortably out of the playoffs real quick with nothing to show for it....how did that strategy us or our propect pool?
Thats quite an analogy..!
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My major concern is goaltending.
The Klingberg signing is bad but won't wreck the season like goaltending can. I'm satisfied with everything else. I mean, let's face it, his hands are pretty well tied.
He seems to be making the best with what he's got to work with though.
Who gives a f*** about the prospect pool, I know this website is called Hockeysfuture but as long as Matthews is on this team, they are in win now mode.
It's not 2015 anymore
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I think Tre is building a team that more Toronto friendly, TO fans like blue collar teams, this team, with the additions of Domi and Bertuzzi are certainly headed in that direction, the one thing that he has not addressed is how do we keep the puck out of our net, this team is going to give up a shit tonne scoring opportunities, there might be one forward, Marner, in our top 6 that is consistent in his defensive play, Matthews has come a long way too, but Domi, Bertuzzi, Nylander, JT in your top 6 not one of them cant tell you the name of their goalie last year, their D has Rielly, Klingberg two of the biggest cherry pickers in the league, this is going to be a team that plays race to 6, which ever team scores 6 first wins.
The narrative that this team is bad defensively needs to die
It's not true and hasn't been for awhile now.
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Chiming in as a Wings fan here, You guys got a hell of a player with Bert. Such an ugly display of stick work and skating combo but somehow makes it super effective. The guy is all heart and fears nothing. Health is his only downfall. He had back surgery which didn't slow him down then last year broke his hand blocking a shot, comes back and like 2 games later breaks his other hand blocking a shot. So some is just bad luck but shows heart but the back issue was the sticking point it seemed.
Serious question for you guys though, what's with the need for the core 4? I'm no GM nor a Leafs fan but why is everyone against trading Willy? I'd be looking for a trade partner for either a true tender ie Helly, I high end defenseman or a top end d prospect with some assets. I'll be the first to admit your forward lineup is disgustingly stacked, on Defense you have Reilly and really no one else is significant including your goalies.
Long story short you guys have glaring needs and the capital is there to make changes but why is everyone so hell bent on keeping Nylander too?
Serious question for you guys though, what's with the need for the core 4? I'm no GM nor a Leafs fan but why is everyone against trading Willy? I'd be looking for a trade partner for either a true tender ie Helly, I high end defenseman or a top end d prospect with some assets. I'll be the first to admit your forward lineup is disgustingly stacked, on Defense you have Reilly and really no one else is significant including your goalies.
Long story short you guys have glaring needs and the capital is there to make changes but why is everyone so hell bent on keeping Nylander too?
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Helped get his team to the playoffs for seven years. Losing in the playoffs sucks, but I'd rather be there over the alternative.
Rielly plays somewhat of a rover game but calling him a cherry picker is just completely false.
Beyond that, Nylander is not bad defensively at all and people are making way too much about our supposed step back defensively. Bunting was no gem defensively and our D most of last year up to the deadline was marginally better if at all vs what we have going into this season.
One thing we have addressed though, which has been a huge problem for us the last few years though was offense from the backend. Klingberg fills a clear need and his shortcomings can be insulated. This is on the coaches now to make sure they use him correctly. He was totally fine in Minnesota at the end of last season and the playoffs
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Who is everyone?
Because the team hasn't announced their intentions, it doesn't mean they aren't considering it.
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Tavares is done after 2 more seasons, so it will be the core 3.
This is really the sticking point. I’ve said this a couple times, including recently in this thread, but I’m not letting Nylander go now knowing that JT comes off the books in 2. I am not a Tavares hater as some have become around here, but at their respective points in their careers I’m keeping Nylander ten times out of ten
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I'm starting to believe they are going to cash Nylander in for a defenseman sooner than later.
If they go down that path it better be for a #1
I think Nylander could flirt with 50 goals
I’d be very hesitant to move him
PromisedLand
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Tre got dealt a bad hand to begin with.
Lets compare the situations
When dubas got the GM position on the silver latter -> team was on the rise, the core were RFAs (i.e. team had FULL CONTROL over the contract). Any threats of offersheets would have resulted in at minimum 4 first round picks for Marner or Matthews. Dubas dropped the ball multiple times with his fixation with players like malgin/petan/etc.; galaxy braining simple tasks, and screwing the Leafs by walking the players to UFA
When Tre was hired as a GM; team had been a stagnant team with similar results; Nylander and Matthews are a pending UFAs simply put you either sign them or risk losing them for nothing especially in the case of Matthews and Marner b/c they have full NMCs/NTCs. Coach has 1 yr leaft on his contract. and team is fully up to the cap due to significant incompetence of the prior GM
I'd give Tre a bit of the benefit of doubt but won't stretch it for too long. I liked what Tre said at the presser when he was introduced "Its about 23 guys on the roster, its not just about core4; its about the TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS"; at least he seems to think that logo on the front means a lot more than name on the back compared to the fraud that was dubas. We'll see if he actually meant that or is it the repeat of Dubas era and if it is then Shanny being a puppet master would be very apparent. Given the Bertuzzi, Domi and Reave signings I am still deciding how much of a puppet master Shanny is... (if at all)
Tre inherited a team that is getting better in the playoffs, what are you talking about stagnant? Or do we no longer care about rounds won?
Treliving has literally just shuffled chairs like Dubas does and people are saying he is a great GM. Everyone wanted major change and now no one does...
PromisedLand
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I'd give him a bit of a break for Acciari and Schenn signing. Acciari (31) signed for 2 AAV for 3 years; Kampf (28) signed for 4 years at 2.4 AAV. To me personally its a wash. Acciari is not as effective as he was in his 20s IMO.
Schenn (33) signed for 2.75 AAV for 3 years; while Klingberg (31) is only a 1 yr deal at 4.1 AAV. We've needed a puck mover on the back end and a slapshot on the PP. Klingberg is a risk for sure but its not a big risk. Entire offensive production from the backend was dependent on Rielly; given keefe refuses to use Lily as an offensive D-man; we needed another offensive D-man.
Klingberg's numbers aren't too bad, relatively speaking; if we remove the Ducks' season. Ducks were trash to begin with. Lily is an RFA with arb rights the following season when Klingberg is off the books; I see that as a stop gap with Brodie and Gio potentially also done we will have a chance at rebuilding our D after next season; unless Tre decides to do it this season by trading Brodie and replacing him with someone on the right side.
Dubas was and still is grade A trash who ruined the Leafs. His fans can go on the pens board. It pisses me off when people talk about dubas like he helped the leafs while he continuously continued to screw the leafs.
Tre's done a lot more than Dubas has ever done for this team in just a few months
