Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIV

Could one argue that maybe Marchy never had to go through that same weight of responsibility here with Chara, Krejci and Bergeron always on the team? Wonder if it stunted his growth as a leader a bit, or if having those world class leaders around helped even more
I don't know. Marchy went all last year without those guys around as leaders and they did pretty well. I do think he learned from them... but he was always fiery and intense, and a talker. Not everyone is built that way, or has to lead that way but IMO this particular team does lack a second guy like that, who will speak up, who will hold teammates accountable.
 
I don't know. Marchy went all last year without those guys around as leaders and they did pretty well.
Id agree, which is where I was leading you towards with the question - I think having him around to mentor those guys as leaders could be more important than seeing how they do without him.
 
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Id agree, which is where I was leading you towards with the question - I think having him around to mentor those guys as leaders could be more important than seeing how they do without him.
I definitely think that's true of the younger players. I think Poitras, and whoever else comes in here, whether it's Lysell or someone they trade for, they need to see that kind of leadership.

Pasta and Mac have seen it now for a year and a half. Hopefully they'll see it again next season. I don't think it would hurt them to have to carry the torch for 3 months, and feel the weight of it.
 
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I thought you were going to say it's crazy that a team like Carolina, who acquired Guentzel last year and then lost him to free agency, went back to the same well and acquired Rantanen this year. They said on Daily Faceoff that Rantanen is saying he won't sign.

Wow... what a gamble to make on their part then. Stanley Cup or bust for Carolina
 
I don't want to see Marchand traded (if he's not coming back), but in a way, it could be a good thing for Pasta and McAvoy to see what life is like without Brad (and to a lesser extent Coyle). To feel the weight of that responsibility, to deal with that adversity, to be the one who's held accountable... It might help them grow as leaders.
Personally, I would trade Coyle before Marchand. Coyle is a puck protecting procession center with limited offensive creativity. This team needs a creative play making center, swap Coyle for a center of about similar age, and contract but who can create offensively. I also think it would create more opportunities for the wings. Having a play making center would give Poitras further time to develop. Speaking of Poitras I think he is going to need at least 200 plus games played in this league before we begin to see what he really has to offer consistently.
 
They have to clear space this off season and either trade or sign a legitimate top line center. If you cannot trade for one sign Marner or Rantanen, both are wings but both should be able to carry a line.

See what Marchand will take, it needs to be team friendly. Coyle and Carlo get you 9 million plus in cap space, whatever you get back is a plus, the cap space is huge. I have no idea what to do with Elias Lindholm, just a huge disappointment. You can't buy him out and it looks awful to trade a newly signed free agent a year after signing him. They have to figure a way to make him productive but they cannot afford two number 3 centers in Coyle and Lindholm for almost 13 million in cap space.

There will not be a tear down and rebuild, Jacobs is not sacrificing playoff gates for more than a year or two. They will do what they did in 2015. Move a key player or two and try to fill in those spots while your draft picks get ready. Sweeney did an OK job with his return for Lucic and Hamilton but then screwed up a generational draft and is paying for that now ( Zach Senyshyn. JFK. WTF)
 
They have to clear space this off season and either trade or sign a legitimate top line center. If you cannot trade for one sign Marner or Rantanen, both are wings but both should be able to carry a line.

See what Marchand will take, it needs to be team friendly. Coyle and Carlo get you 9 million plus in cap space, whatever you get back is a plus, the cap space is huge. I have no idea what to do with Elias Lindholm, just a huge disappointment. You can't buy him out and it looks awful to trade a newly signed free agent a year after signing him. They have to figure a way to make him productive but they cannot afford two number 3 centers in Coyle and Lindholm for almost 13 million in cap space.

There will not be a tear down and rebuild, Jacobs is not sacrificing playoff gates for more than a year or two. They will do what they did in 2015. Move a key player or two and try to fill in those spots while your draft picks get ready. Sweeney did an OK job with his return for Lucic and Hamilton but then screwed up a generational draft and is paying for that now ( Zach Senyshyn. JFK. WTF)
Problem is Sweeney doesn’t have the assets this time around he had in 2015 when he traded Lucic and Hamilton, but yea cap space is huge, that’s why the Bruins should start moving guys asap.

I just don’t see no quick fix unless he can move out the cap space and some how convince a Marner Rantanen to sign here, if they hit the open market. Kicking the can down the road and going for it all those years is finally paying it’s toll.
 
I have to say a sell off and the kids playing is probably more exciting to watch at this point than this average team sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round.

Also bring Chara and Savard in to reset the team again. Chara (head coach), Savard (assistant, power play.)
 
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Go with Boston "Yeti" before it's too late.

In all seriousness the bruins will most likely evaluate this team after the following:
- Hampus plays 5 games
- Merk plays the same 5 games

Hopefully things drastically improve for all the players especially Frederick. Trade him and one of the goalies for a scoring threat forward to play with Marchand and Coyle.

I still believe...
 
I don't know. Marchy went all last year without those guys around as leaders and they did pretty well. I do think he learned from them... but he was always fiery and intense, and a talker. Not everyone is built that way, or has to lead that way but IMO this particular team does lack a second guy like that, who will speak up, who will hold teammates accountable.
They overachieved primarily because Swayman\Ullmark tandem top 5 goaltending, Zacha\Coyle top 6 centers producing like top 6 centers and Pastrnaks elite level play.

Marchand's leadership, PK effectiveness and solid veteran play of 28, 48 and Shattenkirk solidified what you got out of 73\25, contributed also.
 
I think the Swayman debacle is on the player too. Sweeney started at $6.5, that would have made him the 5th highest paid goalie in the league, and it's more than Logan Thompson just signed for, and Thompson has the same career save percent and is far and away the best goalie in the league this year. If the media is to be believed Swayman started at $10m. 😱 Ok, they met in the middle but it's on both of them for not getting a deal done on time.

Yes, I think McAvoy is a core piece on a cup team and is paid appropriately. He hasn't had a good year and I think folks tend to focus on that more than the body of work. The guy has been a top10 or even a top5 defenseman for most of his career. It seems like he's been playing through something this year. You don't have to be a PP QB to be a #1 defenseman, Pietrangelo isn't.

I do agree that the overall play of our D has been average at best. They started off slow, Lindholm got hurt, growing pains with Lohrei, Zadorov learning new systems, Carlo having a bad year without a puck moving partner (and for some reason doesn't play well with Lohrei)... It's been a mess.
McAvoy has been propped up by Chara early in his career and Bergeron later in his career. The tell was when Bergeron tried to play through a career ending injury and couldn't do it effectively against Florida. McAvoy was outplayed by Brandon Montour in '23, with McAvoy playing poorly in G7. Last year e got outplayed by Montour but that was to be expected with the difference in talent if the teams.

McAvoy, since #37 retired, has had 1 dominant top 10 D man type game in his last
20 PO games (G5 FLA last year). Nowhere good enough for a top 10 D (He is
actually closer to 20 than 10 and drifting towards 25 top D).
 
Go with Boston "Yeti" before it's too late.

In all seriousness the bruins will most likely evaluate this team after the following:
- Hampus plays 5 games
- Merk plays the same 5 games

Hopefully things drastically improve for all the players especially Frederick. Trade him and one of the goalies for a scoring threat forward to play with Marchand and Coyle.

I still believe...
Off topic:

Why do you always put a K at the.end of Frederic?
 
Sell off expiring ufa's, let Marchy decide his own fate, bring up the kids, give Freddy another shot next year if you can't get a better player in a similar situation and try to luck into a top 4 pick. That's the quickest way out of this mess regardless of who is gm, coach, or captain.
 
IMO the best leaders in hockey are the guys who know when to STFU and go out and show the team what to do instead of telling them. That's why Chara and Bergeron were so damn good
Chara & Bergeron were freaks as players though. Tough to measure up but even then only got 1 Cup and they choked away one in 2019.
 
After sleeping on it in order to avoid overreacting in the shadow of last nights debacle….I’ve come to this.

There are 2 players who I will be upset if they trade….Pasta and Kastelic.

Pasta because he’s elite as a player and Kastelic because he’s elite as a teammate.

This doesn’t mean that I want everyone else to be moved, but depending on the player and return I can do anything from “accept it” to “be overjoyed” to see them go.

It’s coming up on the silly season…where GM’s tend to pay market value to market value +++.

We have players, who, in the right situation it wouldn’t surprise me to see them make an impact in the playoffs.

Move them! And then move the flotsam and jetsom that shouldn’t be part of the future (Beecher, Koepke, etc.) for whatever you can get.

Go into the off season loaded for bear and hope Sweeney or whoever is in charge by then somehow makes the right moves.
 

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