Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[TheRumble]

Dubas only acquired Tavares out of that group. He doesn’t get credit for the rest. Tavares is an impact player though and I overlooked that.

Treliving had a ton of cap space to work with as well and opted to overpay Ryan Reaves and David Kampf while playing hardball with William Nylander, a guy who we could very well lose for free this next summer.

$18 million on the cap is being eaten up by Ryan Reaves, David Kampf, Max Domi, John Klingberg and Tyler Bertuzzi.

 

[Americanadian]

Treliving had a ton of cap space to work with as well and opted to overpay Ryan Reaves and David Kampf while playing hardball with William Nylander, a guy who we could very well lose for free this next summer.

$18 million on the cap is being eaten up by Ryan Reaves, David Kampf, Max Domi, John Klingberg and Tyler Bertuzzi.

Don’t worry. I’m aware.

When Treliving was signed I thought it was the beginning of the end for the Leafs hopes of winning a cup - I just didn't see it coming this quick.

• Not trading any of the big 3 prior to their NMC's kicking in was a failure
• Signing Klingberg, Domi and Reaves was a failure
• Re-signing Kampf to a 4-year deal at 2.4M was a failure
• Taking a goalie with known confidence issues to arbitration was a failure
• Trading away Lafferty to give Minten 4 games was a failure

The only move he made that looked good at the time was Bertuzzi and that has turned out to be a failure.

 

[IPS]

Gonna be a lot of crow to eat after we win the cup

 

[keonsbitterness]

Gonna be a lot of crow to eat after we win the cup

Good luck storing it in your attic.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Remember that time Dave Nonis lost to a potato lol.

Who Had A Better Free Agency Day: Dave Nonis or a Potato?

Starting to look like the potato's got a winning streak going against Leafs GMs.

 

[Americanadian]

Gonna be a lot of crow to eat after we win the cup

Remember the thread earlier this year telling everyone to eat crow after the Tampa series and then the Leafs were out of the playoffs a week later.

 

[JamieG19]

Dubas only acquired Tavares out of that group. He doesn’t get credit for the rest. Tavares is an impact player though and I overlooked that.

It's just you said "he left the Leafs with 0 impact players". It was his team. He could have traded some of them.

 

[mapleleaf979]

The defense is pathetic. Is it really that hard to get a defensive defenseman?? Leafs have 6 soft dmen every single night that hate defending the forecheck. THe only pass given is Reilly because he is very good offensively overall. Why did Lamarello, Dubas, Treliving all not go out and find defensive dmen to add to the offensive group? im lost man.

 

[colchar]

When Treliving was signed I thought it was the beginning of the end for the Leafs hopes of winning a cup - I just didn't see it coming this quick.

• Not trading any of the big 3 prior to their NMC's kicking in was a failure

How long did he actually have to pull of trading one of them before those clauses kicked in?

 

[TheRumble]

How long did he actually have to pull of trading one of them before those clauses kicked in?

He had one month. The Leafs made a highly unusual move when they opted not to re-sign Dubas when they did which put the new GM in a really tight bind. I largely give a mulligan for the 2023 off season for that reason.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Remember when Brad did good things in Calgary...neither do I.

Fire Brendan Shanahan.

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

We are terrible. At least we haven’t got to worry about play offs now Dubas has gone.

 

[Americanadian]

It's just you said "he left the Leafs with 0 impact players". It was his team. He could have traded some of them.

I listed the players he acquired that are still on the team.

 

[thewave]

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares and Rielly are not impact players??

I think he is saying they impact players, just ZERO Impact players.

 

[ToneDog]

If you were to grade his off-season a C that would probably mean 2/4 of Domi, Bertuzzi, Klingberg, Reaves play well. If that's the case the Leafs still won't win anything so I don't see how improving to a C does anything.

If Bert and Max play like we expect them to play, at least there is a little hope. Add a couple of good trades and anything is possible. Personally, I am expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

 

[BLONG7]

The defense is pathetic. Is it really that hard to get a defensive defenseman?? Leafs have 6 soft dmen every single night that hate defending the forecheck. THe only pass given is Reilly because he is very good offensively overall. Why did Lamarello, Dubas, Treliving all not go out and find defensive dmen to add to the offensive group? im lost man.

Cap..........

 

[Gilmour1996]

A Puppet Master wants a GM made of wood and strings and no brain.. Shanny got what he wanted.

 

[thewave]

Gonna be a lot of crow to eat after we win the cup

It's isn't happening with this coach.

A Puppet Master wants a GM made of wood and strings and no brain.. Shanny got what he wanted.

Seems to be the case. PITS is really benefiting right now. They have a pretty much perfect record.

BT is likely a LarryT hire.

 

[mjd1001]

I'm still thinking the same thing I have been thinking for a while. The Leafs will end the year being "good enough" to make the playoffs and give the fans SOME hope (like they do every year)....but this team will not be good enough to contend for a regular season presidents trophy or go far in the playoffs.

Actually, I think THIS YEAR is the year in their window where they COULD go far in the playoffs, it gets tougher after this year...but that isn't my point.

The good is you have 4 legit stars, 4 guys who produce and are not busts. As long as you have that, you will be GOOD. The bad news is none of those guys are on a bargain contract. You aren't drastically overpaying, but there isn't a bargain.

I've brought this up many times before but, Jack Hughes, Brady Tkachuk, Tage Thompson...those guys are signed long term for $7-8m or so....when you have a couple bargain deals like that, you CAN fill out the bottom of your roster a bit better.

The Leafs are 'doomed to be good-but-not-great' simply because their back end and bottom 6 are so 'below average' because they don't have one or two long term bargains up top where they are saving a few million dollars.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Gonna be a lot of crow to eat after we win the cup

LOL.

 

[thusk]

The defense is pathetic. Is it really that hard to get a defensive defenseman?? Leafs have 6 soft dmen every single night that hate defending the forecheck. THe only pass given is Reilly because he is very good offensively overall. Why did Lamarello, Dubas, Treliving all not go out and find defensive dmen to add to the offensive group? im lost man.

What was the real option??

Orlov at 7M
Graves at 4,5M

Guy like holl schenn soucy than prople dont see those player like more than 5th/6th dman? Around 3 to 3.5M

Do you really think one offseason is enough to rebuild pratically a complete D especially when the market was pretty trash?!?!?!

 

[TheShape]

I've said it every year since the Habs series - the organization isn't serious about winning. The time to trade a core piece and shuffle the roster with cap savings has passed. The ship has sailed to trade Marner (for example) for max value and re-balance the squad.

Now we will tread water until Tavares comes off the books, it is clear as day. MLSE are only interested in winning as long as it's with "their" guys.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I and half the fan base could have done a better job on the offseason.

Didn’t need Klingberg
Shouldn’t have signed Reeves
Keefe has never out coached any team in the playoffs

He ran the Flames into the ground, had no pulse on the team and kept running a coach that the entire team hated. He let a massive star walk for free but redeemed himself with the Thachuk deal. It hasn’t worked out as well as originally believed but that was decent bit of GMing. The Monahan deal looks like a bigger disaster every day. Cost them a first and likely to be traded at the TDL for another first.

Tbf, the Sutter thing wasn't on Tree. Sutter was friends with the owner or president ( can't remember who exactly). Tree wanted to fire him but was vetoed. Tree then decided not to re up with Calgary. Wasn't till after the whole team expressed that they didn't want to play for Sutter that they finally fired him.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

When Treliving was signed I thought it was the beginning of the end for the Leafs hopes of winning a cup - I just didn't see it coming this quick.

• Not trading any of the big 3 prior to their NMC's kicking in was a failure
• Signing Klingberg, Domi and Reaves was a failure
• Re-signing Kampf to a 4-year deal at 2.4M was a failure
• Taking a goalie with known confidence issues to arbitration was a failure
• Trading away Lafferty to give Minten 4 games was a failure

The only move he made that looked good at the time was Bertuzzi and that has turned out to be a failure.

It's looking more and more like the reason he got the GM gig is because he told Shanny that the team just needs a few tweaks and he didn't have to ruin the Core 4 dream. I can't see any other GM getting hired after telling Shanny that this idea won't work with it being so top heavy. At this point I think we are going to have to start trading someone (prefer Marner) to get some balance. If AM can't score without Mitchy...he doesn't deserve his 13.5M deal either.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Dumbas left a tire fire and Tre used gas instead if water to put it out. You must be loving it.

Dubas left a top tier team and golden situation and Treliving seems to have screwed it all up in one offseason. I hate it.

Mess is he guy who tried to argue with me that Jack Campbell was a good goalie, our defense just let him down. I almost never read his posts anymore after that.

Best decision you'll ever make.