Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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This is a really good point. We brought in a less productive D and are now force feeding minutes to justify the money he being paid in hopes he can regain his form from 3-5 years ago. It may not be smart, but it does seem to be what we're seeing.
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Unlike our previous GM there will be no need to deal away top draft picks to get out of a UFA signing from the Klingberg contract as BT limited the risk/reward to just this current season., If it works out the Leafs have added another top 24 overall scoring dman, and if not they simply walk away no harm no foul.
With all the offensive forwards on the Leafs BT is hoping he has added another 50-60 point top 4 dman for a discount $4.15 mil unlike where Leafs are paying TJ Brodie $5 mil AAV to get 2 goals and 14 points. When your new GM inherits a Dcore/Defense that finished 29th of 32 NHL teams in offense from the defense what is he expected to do?
Look at Leafs playoff goal scoring from the defense last year that BT inherited one of the oldest most ineffective. BRUTAL !!!!
Brodie + McCabe + Gio + Holl = $10 mil AAV with Zero goals and -24 +/- combined.
What do the Leafs have to lose by gambling on Klingberg ?
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Signing a bad player and tanking a season doesn't seem like no harm no foul.
They aren't paying Brodie to produce points. They're paying their defenseman Brodie to play defense, and he's been one of the best in the league at it.
For somebody who repeatedly makes the false claim that "defense wins championships", you seem to be brushing over the primary job of defensemen quite a bit.
When your new GM inherits a good defensive team, he is expected to not completely destroy that in one offseason.
Mess is he guy who tried to argue with me that Jack Campbell was a good goalie, our defense just let him down. I almost never read his posts anymore after that.
In this thread he's glossing over the concept of the "contract year" phenomenon. Klingberg signed a 1 year deal with Anaheim last year in order to maximize his long term value on his next deal and failed. That's a red flag.
Gustafsson on the other hand only got $825k for a pretty good season all things considered.
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Jimmy Firecracker
Backcheck, Forecheck, Paycheque.
It seems we are going to run into the same problems with Brad that we did with Dubas. We're going to have to burn a ton of Picks/prospects to plug holes at the deadline.
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BertCorbeau
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Trev’s roster construction for the forward group seems is really off. No chemistry in the bottom 6.
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11 games in and every player Treliving brought in has sucked so far.
This team is broken .something with the chemistry is off
My guess is the new players brought in are not buying in
He only had one summer, but he didn't need to pour gasoline on the dumpster fire left by Dubas.
Boy if MSLE ever wanted to flex its corporate wealth
Fire the whole Chebang
Veteran teams usually know their identity
Tye leafs identity is "pay everybody and screw your fan base"
Leafidelity
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The only reason the Core 4 era has lasted this long is because Dubas was able to sign cheap quality UFAs almost yearly. I dont know if he could have done better this offseason, but the jig is certainly up with Treliving now.
Its probably time for a step back and major shakeup.
Its probably time for a step back and major shakeup.
He should've never gotten the keys to the gaspump
I and half the fan base could have done a better job on the offseason.
Didn’t need Klingberg
Shouldn’t have signed Reeves
Keefe has never out coached any team in the playoffs
He ran the Flames into the ground, had no pulse on the team and kept running a coach that the entire team hated. He let a massive star walk for free but redeemed himself with the Thachuk deal. It hasn’t worked out as well as originally believed but that was decent bit of GMing. The Monahan deal looks like a bigger disaster every day. Cost them a first and likely to be traded at the TDL for another first.
Didn’t need Klingberg
Shouldn’t have signed Reeves
Keefe has never out coached any team in the playoffs
He ran the Flames into the ground, had no pulse on the team and kept running a coach that the entire team hated. He let a massive star walk for free but redeemed himself with the Thachuk deal. It hasn’t worked out as well as originally believed but that was decent bit of GMing. The Monahan deal looks like a bigger disaster every day. Cost them a first and likely to be traded at the TDL for another first.
Honestly, the biggest gaffe so far is Kampf.
If this season goes south, they could at least offload the rentals for some futures.
Kampf @ $2.4m for the next several years is no bueno man
If this season goes south, they could at least offload the rentals for some futures.
Kampf @ $2.4m for the next several years is no bueno man
I even like Kampf as a 4th line centre when he isn’t trying to carry a useless plug like Reeves. But there was no reason to give him that term when we had Holmberg ready to fill that same roll for nearly leaf minimum.
Just to reiterate my stance here:
The Leafs made the very unusual move of firing their GM in the off season despite him putting together a string of very good seasons.
The new GM thought we wre close to contention and were only a few pieces away so he brought in four new guys that he felt could add those missing parts. Whether he's right or wrong, we'll have the rest of the season to judge that.
But all GMs should get 1 full season (currently underway) and 1 full off season so I'm gonna continue to preach that as how Brad should be judged. He'll have $25+ million in cap space to work with in the off season and a full sleight of draft picks - we have a pick in every round of the 24 draft except for the 2nd. He can make moves that will set the team up long term. His decisions around Nylander and Marner will largely determine his legacy here.
The Leafs made the very unusual move of firing their GM in the off season despite him putting together a string of very good seasons.
The new GM thought we wre close to contention and were only a few pieces away so he brought in four new guys that he felt could add those missing parts. Whether he's right or wrong, we'll have the rest of the season to judge that.
But all GMs should get 1 full season (currently underway) and 1 full off season so I'm gonna continue to preach that as how Brad should be judged. He'll have $25+ million in cap space to work with in the off season and a full sleight of draft picks - we have a pick in every round of the 24 draft except for the 2nd. He can make moves that will set the team up long term. His decisions around Nylander and Marner will largely determine his legacy here.
Jimmy Firecracker
Backcheck, Forecheck, Paycheque.
The July 1st free agent signings predictably are the worst ones. Just spent money for no good reason. Re-signing Kampf was a stupid panic move because O’Reilly spurned us and now he’s got no place on this team.
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Friendly reminder Reaves has yet to be on the ice for a goal for this season.
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