Proposal: BOS/VAN

[BostonBob]

Stupid because your post indicates your lack of reading comprehension. Top 10 picks have significantly more value than Fabian Lysell. Not only is the prospect better (Guenther>>Lysell) but you have your choice in selection. Are we giving you OEL with Garland for Lysell? No? Oh then once again you don't understand the point. Not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

Interesting that you keep forgetting to add that the Canucks shed $12 million in cap space in that deal with Arizona but I guess that actually hurts your argument a bit. That's not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Like what I said Buchnevich was on pace for 70+ pts last year. Got traded for a 2nd and a nobody. Got signed to a very reasonable deal after.

In hindsight it was obviously a bad deal but that’s what he was worth at the time.

Canucks fans are obviously inclined to ask for Lysell and a 1st because they like the player but that’s just not what the market pays for 2nd line players especially ones at that size

Kapanen was traded for a 16th overall.

toffoli was just traded for a 1st + while playing poorly this year

Dvorak for a 1st + 2nd

I can keep going. I don’t know why you’re stuck on a trade that wasn’t even very similar in players and was a known rip off as a reason why you’re right in this scenario?

 

[BlueAzN]

Lmao what the hell even is this trade

 

[Hookslide]

Even when Marchand was only a 50-point player, he was one of the best defensive wingers in the game and an elite penalty killer. If Garland was that, he'd be worth $4.9m but he's weak defensively and doesn't kill penalties.

he is no Marchand

 

[Hookslide]

I would trade Horvat for 1st+Lysell probably

You would but I won't and I hope the Bruins won't either ,......

 

[CellyHard]

Kapanen was traded for a 16th overall.

toffoli was just traded for a 1st + while playing poorly this year

Dvorak for a 1st + 2nd

I can keep going. I don’t know why you’re stuck on a trade that wasn’t even very similar in players and was a known rip off as a reason why you’re right in this scenario?

And all those deals are less than a 1st + Lysell lol

 

[Boondock]

Interesting that you keep forgetting to add that the Canucks shed $12 million in cap space in that deal with Arizona but I guess that actually hurts your argument a bit. That's not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

Shed 1 year of $12 million cap and took on 6 years of $7+ for OEL and had to re-sign Garland at $4.95 so in actuality didn't shed any cap, and took on far more term. Which you keep forgetting but I guess that actually hurts your argument a bit. That's not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

 

[BostonBob]

Shed 1 year of $12 million cap and took on 6 years of $7+ for OEL and had to re-sign Garland at $4.95 so in actuality didn't shed any cap, and took on far more term. Which you keep forgetting but I guess that actually hurts your argument a bit. That's not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

Nice try but I wasn't the one that started the whole " we gave up the 9th pick for OEL and Garland " argument. Thanks for playing though.

 

[nbwingsfan]

And all those deals are less than a 1st + Lysell lol

I see exactly one poster saying it’s Lysell + 1st.

We have posters like you saying Garland is worth a 2nd + dump

A few Bruins are saying they wouldn’t do Lysell straight up, which is pretty crazy.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Interesting that you keep forgetting to add that the Canucks shed $12 million in cap space in that deal with Arizona but I guess that actually hurts your argument a bit. That's not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

1 year remaining on those players versus 6.....math must be hard for you

 

[Groo]

#1 its delusional
#2 its Chychrun
#3 Lysol is a cleaning agent not a food prospect

Considering you can't spell or differentiate cleaning supplies from food, I won't take your post too seriously. Oh......and just to touch on your terrible post.......Hertl, if he actually wants to be traded.......has a 3 team list and IF he chooses Boston (Pasta's good buddy) we would not be trading Lysell and a 1st.......see Taylor Hall last trade deadline.

Yes lets revisit what is or isn't delusional. Beginning with your dream scenario.

 

[Siludin]

He said Connor Garland not Pavel Bure. Lysell is not being traded for the like of Connor Fing Garland, not even straight up.

lol
Garland was traded for a 9th last year. Dylan Guenther essentially.
Is Lysell > Guenther? idk.

 

[CellyHard]

I see exactly one poster saying it’s Lysell + 1st.

We have posters like you saying Garland is worth a 2nd + dump

A few Bruins are saying they wouldn’t do Lysell straight up, which is pretty crazy.

Lol never said that.

Look Garland is good and if he was made available I could definitely see 1st + or Debrusk + 2nd/Vaakanienen but prospects like Lysell just don’t get included in deals for top six wingers like Garland and all those deals you posted previously prove that.

Miller or Horvat is a different story

 

[BostonBob]

1 year remaining on those players versus 6.....math must be hard for you

Not really but putting up with your condescending attitude is getting pretty hard.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Lol never said that.

Look Garland is good and if he was made available I could definitely see 1st + or Debrusk + 2nd/Vaakanienen but prospects like Lysell just don’t get included in deals for top six wingers like Garland and all those deals you posted previously prove that.

Miller or Horvat is a different story

You keep saying “prospects like Lysell” as if he’s a blue chip can’t miss prospect? He’s a 21st overall who hasn’t significantly increased his value and isn’t having a noteworthy season.

The 16th overall for Kap or the 1st + 2nd for Dvorak are pretty much exactly his value, if not more…

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Not even close. Try Lysell+1st/2nd

Absolutely not. That's embarrassing.

Miller, perhaps. The Bruins have no need for 160 lb Garland regardless.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Not sure if you're genuinely stupid or trying to make a point that's not there?

We took on OEL's awful long term contract AND traded a top ten pick for Garland. Is Lysell a top 10 pick? No. You're so off here and it's not even funny.

And where did that get you?

In a do over Lysell will indeed be a top 10 pick. Lots of dumb GM's in the NHL. Bruins may have the steal of the century. Garland is a good player that will not move the needle for the Bruins.
If we trade Lysell in ANY deal it will be for a MUCH bigger fish.

 

[nbwingsfan]

And where did that get you?

In a do over Lysell will indeed be a top 10 pick. Lots of dumb GM's in the NHL. Bruins may have the steal of the century. Garland is a good player that will not move the needle for the Bruins.
If we trade Lysell in ANY deal it will be for a MUCH bigger fish.

What exactly has Lysell done this season to warrant being a top 10 pick now?

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Absolutely not. That's embarrassing.

Miller, perhaps. The Bruins have no need for 160 lb Garland regardless.

We can compete with any team in the league with our current forward group. Not our defense, we need a few to be a serious cup contender. Garland is not needed and my view will puke on his skates playing in the Boston market.

 

[Bobbybruins]

Ok, so let’s assume Boston can sign and trade Debrusk for close to that same contract that Garland as, then tell me who add to that trade. Pretty sure it won’t be Boston.

Lmao wtf are you talking about?
Garland is a 25 year old 5o point winger who gets zero #1 PP time and is our best 5v5 player. We literally just traded the 9th overall pick for him not even a year ago. Stop overvaluing prospect my Lord... Connor Garland is more valuable than Fabian Lysell at this point in time give your head a shake. P.S. I have Giants seasons tickets.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

What exactly has Lysell done this season to warrant being a top 10 pick now?

What have the other top 10 pick done that is any better? Lysell being available to the Bruins is a massive scouting blunder, time will tell.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Not sure if you're genuinely stupid or trying to make a point that's not there?

We took on OEL's awful long term contract AND traded a top ten pick for Garland. Is Lysell a top 10 pick? No. You're so off here and it's not even funny.

You also acquired OEL. Oversimplified here.

 

[nbwingsfan]

What have the other top 10 pick done that is any better? Lysell being available to the Bruins is a massive scouting blunder, time will tell.

Huh? He has 41 in 35. That’s 82 in 70 game pace. That’s really nothing special at all being an 18 year old 1st round pick.
For context:
Clarke: 52 in 44 as a D
Guenther: 65 in 44
Othman: 73 in 48
Bolduc: 58 in 41

Thise are just the guys ahead of him. Guys behind him are doing better (Bourgoult, Johnston). Lysell hasn’t lost ground, but he certainly hasn’t done anything to drastically increase his stock from a ~20th overall pick

I’d love to hear the argument as to why you think he’s now worth a top 10 pick in a redraft ?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Huh? He has 41 in 35. That’s 82 in 70 game pace. That’s really nothing special at all being an 18 year old 1st round pick.
For context:
Clarke: 52 in 44 as a D
Guenther: 65 in 44
Othman: 73 in 48
Bolduc: 58 in 41

Thise are just the guys ahead of him. Guys behind him are doing better (Bourgoult, Johnston). Lysell hasn’t lost ground, but he certainly hasn’t done anything to drastically increase his stock from a ~20th overall pick

I’d love to hear the argument as to why you think he’s now worth a top 10 pick in a redraft ?

Zero chance Lysell goes top 10 in a redraft lol

 

[CellyHard]

You keep saying “prospects like Lysell” as if he’s a blue chip can’t miss prospect? He’s a 21st overall who hasn’t significantly increased his value and isn’t having a noteworthy season.

The 16th overall for Kap or the 1st + 2nd for Dvorak are pretty much exactly his value, if not more…

Any 1st round picks that were projected to
go top ten and slip to a team who rarely has the opportunity to draft those types of players rarely gets moved especially considering the season he is having in his D +1 year. GM’s just don’t it, it’s like Forsberg for Erat. A stain you can’t ever recover from.

As others have said he isn’t being moved for a small winger like Garland it would be for a much bigger acquisition (no pun intended)