Proposal: BOS/VAN

[gianni]

And also took on the brutal OEL contract…

OEL's been fine. Canucks also got rid of Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, and Antoine Roussel.

Hmm and where is that GM ?

Fired b/c he wasted precious cap space on 4th liners, bottom pair d-men, and signed Micheal Ferland long-term despite health issues. Conor Garland is not why he was let go.

 

[kanucks25]

Lysell +1st is what you move for a signed Hertl or franchise LD like Chychrun, not Connor Garland. Maybe even for a guy like Bo Horvat
Garland would likely cost Debrusk +2nd or Debrusk + Vaak

Regardless, the Bruins don't need an undersized winger, if you're looking to move your captain, by all means! Lysell and a 1st

Horvat + Pearson

Lysell + 1st + Debrusk

ty

 

[nbwingsfan]

OEL's been fine. Canucks also got rid of Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, and Antoine Roussel.




Fired b/c he wasted precious cap space on 4th liners, bottom pair d-men, and signed Micheal Ferland long-term despite health issues. Conor Garland is not why he was let go.

Not for his contract he sure as hell isn’t. Yes you got rid of short term contracts and got a bad longer one…

 

[mattydamon]

I would trade Horvat for 1st+Lysell probably

 

[Cogburn]

Horvat + Pearson

Lysell + 1st + Debrusk

ty

That's just....gross. Other teams will offer better for Horvat.

 

[nergish]

Horvat + Pearson

Lysell + 1st + Debrusk

ty

Would you really do this as a Canucks fan?? I definitely wouldn't.

Lysell is a nice little prospect, but far from a sure thing. Debrusk is a slug, and it would be a late 1st...
I'm not trading our Captain for that. Pearson is not a cap dump either, he'd be a solid add for a contender looking for veteran depth.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

We fired that GM (for obvious reasons) but getting Garland was not one of them.

FYI, the only Bruin player who has a higher 5v5 P/60 than Garland is Marchand.

Now he's a HOFer ? Because that is what you are comparing him to, Unless its Jake one for one keep him, you guys need him more than we do.

Some posters have a hardo for Garland on the Bruins board. I just don't see the fit

 

[bruins4thecup65]

DeBrusk 2nd Moore

Boeser

 

[kanucks25]

That's just....gross. Other teams will offer better for Horvat.

Would you really do this as a Canucks fan?? I definitely wouldn't.

Lysell is a nice little prospect, but far from a sure thing. Debrusk is a slug, and it would be a late 1st...
I'm not trading our Captain for that. Pearson is not a cap dump either, he'd be a solid add for a contender looking for veteran depth.

I'm not that high on Horvat personally. Perhaps we could get more but if I was another team I wouldn't pay more.

Horvat is mostly an offense only 2nd liner, I don't see why a player like this would demand a king's ransom. I don't know how much him being our captain bumps up his value.

 

[Boondock]

OEL's been fine. Canucks also got rid of Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, and Antoine Roussel.




Fired b/c he wasted precious cap space on 4th liners, bottom pair d-men, and signed Micheal Ferland long-term despite health issues. Conor Garland is not why he was let go.

If fine is an acceptable standard for a 30 year old Dman making $7+ for the next 6 years then I will respectfully disagree. If OEL was signed for 3 years at $5 per sure - his contract is already bad for what he brings, I'm sure it's not going to get better as he ages.

 

[Cogburn]

I'm not that high on Horvat personally. Perhaps we could get more but if I was another team I wouldn't pay more.

Horvat is mostly an offense only 2nd liner, I don't see why a player like this would demand a king's ransom. I don't know how much him being our captain bumps up his value.

A king's ransom? No, he's not worth that. Great at faceoffs, scores at a good clip for his cap hit, I like his game, but it's more the return I take exception to. Lysell isn't the kind of prospect I'd want for Horvat, and as I can see, he is one of Boston's top prospects at the moment. Colorado or LA or New York would have better prospects available, with a comparablish pick. If we were looking at a total teardown, Garland or Boeser I think would be a better fit for a return featuring Lysell prominently.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

He said Connor Garland not Pavel Bure. Lysell is not being traded for the like of Connor Fing Garland, not even straight up.

If it was 25 yo Pavel Bure, Pastrnak wouldn't be enough lol.

 

[kanucks25]

A king's ransom? No, he's not worth that. Great at faceoffs, scores at a good clip for his cap hit, I like his game, but it's more the return I take exception to. Lysell isn't the kind of prospect I'd want for Horvat, and as I can see, he is one of Boston's top prospects at the moment. Colorado or LA or New York would have better prospects available, with a comparablish pick. If we were looking at a total teardown, Garland or Boeser I think would be a better fit for a return featuring Lysell prominently.

Lysell + BOS 1st is essentially two mid-late 1sts. I don't know how many 2nd liners fetch more than that.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

To Van: DeBrusk

To Bos: Garland

Let er rip.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

He said Connor Garland not Pavel Bure. Lysell is not being traded for the like of Connor Fing Garland, not even straight up.

hahaha you think that would have gotten you Bure, hahahahahahaha, oh that's cute.

 

[BostonBob]

So which is it ?????

Stop overvaluing prospect my Lord...

We literally just traded the 9th overall pick for him not even a year ago.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I don't get the hype with Garland.

The idea was that his production was restrained because he was in Arizona. Now in Vancouver he's scoring at a lower clip. Not a great skater. Tiny. 50-point player.

Why should I be paying $4.9m for that when I can get Craig Smith for $3.1m?

"Tiny 50 point player" and "Not a great skater"

Lmao someone hasn't seen Garland play in their lives.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

So which is it ?????

Not sure if you're genuinely stupid or trying to make a point that's not there?

We took on OEL's awful long term contract AND traded a top ten pick for Garland. Is Lysell a top 10 pick? No. You're so off here and it's not even funny.

 

[Lawzy]

Now he's a HOFer ? Because that is what you are comparing him to, Unless its Jake one for one keep him, you guys need him more than we do.

Some posters have a hardo for Garland on the Bruins board. I just don't see the fit

???

No where did I imply I think Conor Garland is as good as Brad Marchand. I simply stated he is currently scoring at a 5v5 P/60 rate between Pastrnak and Marchand. The poster I quoted mentioned that if Garland leads our team in 5v5 scoring, then our team must simply be bad. While I don't outright disagree (the Canucks have many flaws), I was simply pointing out that he would be near the top in 5v5 scoring on the Bruins as well.

 

[gianni]

If fine is an acceptable standard for a 30 year old Dman making $7+ for the next 6 years then I will respectfully disagree. If OEL was signed for 3 years at $5 per sure - his contract is already bad for what he brings, I'm sure it's not going to get better as he ages.

I meant fine for what he's getting paid, not fine as in average. Tyler Myers' improvement this season has been largely accredited to being paired w/ OEL

 

[smack66]

would be interested in hearing from Canuck fans as to why Garland is available so shortly after being acquired? seems odd to have someone on the market after just acquiring him.

 

[BostonBob]

Not sure if you're genuinely stupid or trying to make a point that's not there?

We took on OEL's awful long term contract AND traded a top ten pick for Garland. Is Lysell a top 10 pick? No. You're so off here and it's not even funny.

Are you genuinely stupid ???? You said not to overvalue prospects but then said that the Canucks had just traded the 9th pick ( I'm pretty sure that's the same as a prospect ) for Garland. So I guess it's OK to put a lot of value on the 9th pick but not on Lysell ???? Gee - I wonder what you will call me now ???

 

[CellyHard]

What was Buchnevich career high at the time of trade? Was he signed for 4 more years at a great deal? Was this viewed as an awful awful trade?

Like what I said Buchnevich was on pace for 70+ pts last year. Got traded for a 2nd and a nobody. Got signed to a very reasonable deal after.

In hindsight it was obviously a bad deal but that’s what he was worth at the time.

Canucks fans are obviously inclined to ask for Lysell and a 1st because they like the player but that’s just not what the market pays for 2nd line players especially ones at that size

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Are you genuinely stupid ???? You said not to overvalue prospects but then said that the Canucks had just traded the 9th pick ( I'm pretty sure that's the same as a prospect ) for Garland. So I guess it's OK to put a lot of value on the 9th pick but not on Lysell ???? Gee - I wonder what you will call me now ???

You're clearly not listening because your post indicates your lack of reading comprehension. Top 10 picks have significantly more value than Fabian Lysell. Not only is the prospect better (Guenther>>Lysell) but you have your choice in selection. Are we giving you OEL with Garland for Lysell? No? Oh then once again you don't understand the point. Not a hard concept to understand, but it seems like for you it is.

 

[kanucks25]

would be interested in hearing from Canuck fans as to why Garland is available so shortly after being acquired? seems odd to have someone on the market after just acquiring him.

99% of Canucks fans are confused as to why Garland would be available. He's been very good, especially 5-on-5 because he doesn't get proper PP time, and is signed throughout his prime to a very fair price.