BENCH CHABOT
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umma gumma
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A lot has settled down since Zub came in to the lineup to stay. Team defence is slowly getting better.
Zaitsev moving down a slot with a little less ice and a bit easier competition may not have a negative effect on Reilly. A bigger question for me is whether Zub can play Zaitsev's minutes
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To push us into true contender status, i think this team needs Sanderson to be our top LD defensive D man.
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I think Sanderson will be this team's best all around defenceman but Chabot IMO is & will still be the most dynamic offensive defenceman. Chabot should be on the 1st PP & Sanderson on the 2nd for a few yrs yet but I can also see Sanderson on the 2nd PK unit while Chabot only playing on the PK occasionally.
Kleven should be on the 1st PK unit whenever he becomes NHL ready. And those three should be this team's future left side on defence. Now all they have to do is find similar players for the right side or more like complimentary players on the right side & they could be set for a while on defence.
Can't keep playing him the amount of minutes they do- Burn out or injury waiting to happen
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Unfortunately looks to be playing worse even with the decrease in minutes today. Not good for the highest paid and best player on our team.
TheNewEra
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He has been averaging 26-27 minutes coming into the game, there have been days where he has played 30. A burnout was coming from a mile away. If looking at it from an 82 game season we are at about the halfway point so it makes sense.
For sure Chabot needs to sit a few shifts,or play alot less mins...But we just dont have anyone else...
TheNewEra
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We do, we just wont play them. Like in yesterday's game, i missed it but the summary was we got our asses kicked. After Perry put the habs up 3-0 we should have evened the minutes out and let Reilly/Coburn/Brown get more minutes. We may have given up another goal or so but a 4-1 loss and a 6-1 loss is relatively the same thing.
Thats without me getting into the fact that we arent dressing our best dmen but whatever
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Chabot is a smart player and he will be the first person to tell you when he's made a mistake. He's probably as frustrated as we are when he f***s up.
Saying that the coaching staff need to work with him on his turnovers. More video, more d zone breakout training, etc..
Saying that the coaching staff need to work with him on his turnovers. More video, more d zone breakout training, etc..
For all the complaining about the other D men Reilly is a -2, Zub is a+2 . Zaitsev is a -15. and Chabot is a -18 . What that tells me is regardless of his heavy minutes Chabot is careless with the puck. That has to change.
Chabot recently had like 5 straight games of 30 minutes where he shut down opposing top lines.
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It is amazing how we are all watching the same things and come to radically different opinions. Before I give my opinion I will say that the team on a whole, is a train wreck at getting the puck out of their zone a lot of the time.
I think the point of it all is that Chabot can be so much better. And those that have watched this team since he played his first game have seen what he can do when he is at his best. Through these old eyes of mine and a few of my other pals, for every great play he makes there is a bad one. The comparison to Karlsson on his ability to skate or pass the puck of of trouble is not a good one. He is not even close to 65 in his ability to make a quick smart play or carry the puck out of trouble. He makes careless, nonchalant plays every game.
When I go through all the posts in this thread, a lot of people say how great he is before offering up an excuse for his poor play. Great players adapt to the situation. They learn from their mistakes. They improve by knowing their limitations and minimizing poor plays. They reduce the risk by adding these things up and hopefully, making the right plays. No player is perfect so you try to minimize those errors. But I see Chabot make the same lazy, poor decisions game after game.
The first excuse is he is playing too much and this is a valid point. Last night he played less than usual and I actually thought he was playing a safer, smarter game. Was a short sample size unfortunately. Maybe he needs a game or two to adjust to having more gas in the tank. Let's hope that was the case.
There is no doubt the quality of your partner, the forwards, the system deployed are all factors. It is a team game. Last night against the Habs, there weren't too many players who stood out in a positive way. But unfortunately, Chabot made a few more poor plays that contributed to goals against. The shorty started when he skated into a forechecker and lost possession of the puck. The third goal, he attempted two passes that ended up on the other teams stick. As a few have pointed out in here, this is not an uncommon occurrence. We see it game after game. Sometimes it ends up in the back of the net, sometimes it doesn't. But it happens all too often. If he has no play, eat the puck or clear it in a safe place. Watch what Zub does and learn something. For all the complaints about Zaitsev, I don't see him making the same kinds of mistakes Chabot does. He is far from perfect, but I see effort, physicality, and safer decisions. Would like to see more of it from Chabot because we have seen him do it before. Last point... good players make the people they play with play better, not the other way around. Spezza and Karlsson made who they played with better. Much better. Ask Greening who to thank for his big payday.
Chabot can be great. We've seen it as he has all the tools. Would be nice to see that player more often.
I think the point of it all is that Chabot can be so much better. And those that have watched this team since he played his first game have seen what he can do when he is at his best. Through these old eyes of mine and a few of my other pals, for every great play he makes there is a bad one. The comparison to Karlsson on his ability to skate or pass the puck of of trouble is not a good one. He is not even close to 65 in his ability to make a quick smart play or carry the puck out of trouble. He makes careless, nonchalant plays every game.
When I go through all the posts in this thread, a lot of people say how great he is before offering up an excuse for his poor play. Great players adapt to the situation. They learn from their mistakes. They improve by knowing their limitations and minimizing poor plays. They reduce the risk by adding these things up and hopefully, making the right plays. No player is perfect so you try to minimize those errors. But I see Chabot make the same lazy, poor decisions game after game.
The first excuse is he is playing too much and this is a valid point. Last night he played less than usual and I actually thought he was playing a safer, smarter game. Was a short sample size unfortunately. Maybe he needs a game or two to adjust to having more gas in the tank. Let's hope that was the case.
There is no doubt the quality of your partner, the forwards, the system deployed are all factors. It is a team game. Last night against the Habs, there weren't too many players who stood out in a positive way. But unfortunately, Chabot made a few more poor plays that contributed to goals against. The shorty started when he skated into a forechecker and lost possession of the puck. The third goal, he attempted two passes that ended up on the other teams stick. As a few have pointed out in here, this is not an uncommon occurrence. We see it game after game. Sometimes it ends up in the back of the net, sometimes it doesn't. But it happens all too often. If he has no play, eat the puck or clear it in a safe place. Watch what Zub does and learn something. For all the complaints about Zaitsev, I don't see him making the same kinds of mistakes Chabot does. He is far from perfect, but I see effort, physicality, and safer decisions. Would like to see more of it from Chabot because we have seen him do it before. Last point... good players make the people they play with play better, not the other way around. Spezza and Karlsson made who they played with better. Much better. Ask Greening who to thank for his big payday.
Chabot can be great. We've seen it as he has all the tools. Would be nice to see that player more often.
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Thing I’ve noticed is that... zub doesn’t really make anyone else look better? Like his game with Chabot was not good. He just Gels with reilly. It’s very strange. Not sure he would work with brannstrom either.
not saying Zub is bad with others. Just that he may not improve his partners like he does with reilly.
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He and Tkachuk could use more tough love.. Coaching staff just relies on them so much .
I'd like to see them move Zub to play with Chabot. Try to give him more of a steadying influence to play with for a few games.
We should see what Reilly looks like without Zub before we sign him as well.
Did Chabot play his best hockey with the Senators with Demelo as his partner? just throwin' that out there. Is it true?
I'd like to see them move Zub to play with Chabot. Try to give him more of a steadying influence to play with for a few games.
We should see what Reilly looks like without Zub before we sign him as well.
Did Chabot play his best hockey with the Senators with Demelo as his partner? just throwin' that out there. Is it true?
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Not sure why you would expect a guy with less than half a season in the NHL to make other guys better. But saying that Zub and Reilley have played OK with each other. Maybe Chabot has the issues adapting . Last night his Corsi was 28% by far worst on the team.
I don’t “expect” it. But it’s certainly happened with reilly. Reilly was an absolute train wreck before zub. And we can all agree zub has played better than any other RD. But that’s doesn’t necessarily mean he will make Chabot or brannstrom or Wolanin (gone obviously) play better. Is what I’m saying
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