Prospect Info: Bakersfield Condors '16-17 Thread

[Spawn]

The Oilers will probably have to throw in a pick or take on a bad contract to make it happen. Or just waive Gus and pay him to play in Bako like Nikitin last year.

He makes like 900k. They aren't going to take on a bad contract or trade a pick to move him. If they send him to the minors it doesn't cost anything on their cap in the NHL. They might even want him down there as insurance should LB crap the bed again or someone get hurt.

 

[Hoodaha]

He makes like 900k. They aren't going to take on a bad contract or trade a pick to move him. If they send him to the minors it doesn't cost anything on their cap in the NHL. They might even want him down there as insurance should LB crap the bed again or someone get hurt.

I'd think he'd cost full salary in the minors. Does he have a two way contract?

 

[McDNicks17]

I'd think he'd cost full salary in the minors. Does he have a two way contract?

You can bury up to $950k of a contract in the minors.

 

[Aceboogie]

Laleggia is heating up

 

[McFlyingV]

Laleggia is heating up

I'd kinda given up on Laleggia tbh. He's a great skater, but I just don't know if he has the stick skill and elite offensive tools to overcome his size. I have wondered at times if they would have been better off turning him into a winger (i know he played a bit there last year, I mean full-time in this case).

Anyways, I'd love for him to pleasantly surprise me, but I won't hold my breath on it.

 

[McFlyingV]

I'd think he'd cost full salary in the minors. Does he have a two way contract?

Two-way contracts only save the team actual salary, not cap hit. A player with a one-way is guaranteed their full money even if they're sent to the AHL, while a two-way gets AHL money in the AHL. Sending any player down gives a 950k cap relief off that player's cap hit, so if they cost 950k or less as a cap hit then sending them down essentially takes them off the teams salary cap entirely.

 

[McFlyingV]

Bake up 3-0 after 1 against Stockton. Battle of the ex-Providence goalies. Gillies already got yanked. Oesterle with 2 goals, wonder if he gets a look with Edmonton soon now that he's healthy (given our injuries).

 

[joestevens29]

LB's dad has recently moved to town and is telling everyone who will listen that Gus is being traded so that LB can be in Edmonton as the #2. This is nuts in my opinion, but hey I guess it is the Christmas season.

Lol, who in their right mind is gonig to trade for Gustavsson? Backup goalies rarely have any market. Condon who is 6 years younger actually cleared waivers and then was dealt for a 5th.

Might just be a dad being a dad.

 

[Aceboogie]

Taylor Beck is leading the AHL in scoring I believe. 30 points in 19 games. Lander is GPG and almost 2 ppg in 6 games. Khaira has 10 points in 14 games and both goalies are on fire

Some solid depth options in the farm. I think Lander will regain confidence and hopefully come back on fire. 2 years ago he came up from the AHL like a bat out of hell and had a very impressive year. Beck is another guy id seriously consider calling up

 

[belair]

Taylor Beck is leading the AHL in scoring I believe. 30 points in 19 games. Lander is GPG and almost 2 ppg in 6 games. Khaira has 10 points in 14 games and both goalies are on fire

Some solid depth options in the farm. I think Lander will regain confidence and hopefully come back on fire. 2 years ago he came up from the AHL like a bat out of hell and had a very impressive year. Beck is another guy id seriously consider calling up

Lander is very quietly looking like a decent long term replacement on Matty Hendricks. Obviously he's got to show some consistency at the NHL level, but his game has shown vast improvements early on this year. I'm excited for him.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Lander is very quietly looking like a decent long term replacement on Matty Hendricks. Obviously he's got to show some consistency at the NHL level, but his game has shown vast improvements early on this year. I'm excited for him.

Lander has been a good 4th liner for 2 years. Wins faceoffs. Agitates. He's a bit slow.

Currently IS better than Hendricks.

 

[McFlyingV]

Lander has been a good 4th liner for 2 years. Wins faceoffs. Agitates. He's a bit slow.

Currently IS better than Hendricks.

Is it bad that there's still this very tiny tiny piece of hope left inside of me that he will somehow come back from dominating the AHL and show us he actually has some offence at the NHL level? I mean I know deep down I know it won't happen, but man. If he was just a better skater he would be such a good 4th line shutdown centre.

 

[belair]

Is it bad that there's still this very tiny tiny piece of hope left inside of me that he will somehow come back from dominating the AHL and show us he actually has some offence at the NHL level? I mean I know deep down I know it won't happen, but man. If he was just a better skater he would be such a good 4th line shutdown centre.

It isn't completely out of the realm of possibility. He's done it before. I've said it before but I consider him to be a poor mans Marcus Kruger. Kruger has had seasons where he's put up points and then there's last year. Even when he's not producing he's still a solid defensive forward.

 

[LaGu]

Lander on ice for 13 GF (pts on 11 of them) and 2 GA. Currently has a whopping 86.7% GF%.



Even if he never makes it I think it is ok to happy for his success on the AHL level, no?

Also (to the surprise of no one knowing my point of view on Lander) I still have hopes he'll be able to put things together and become a decent/good 3rd line NHL player, however unlikely that may seem.

 

[joestevens29]

Lander is very quietly looking like a decent long term replacement on Matty Hendricks. Obviously he's got to show some consistency at the NHL level, but his game has shown vast improvements early on this year. I'm excited for him.

Honestly barring Lander finding a GF in Bakersfield or Edmonton I don't really see him sticking around next season. Granted we could probably give him a pretty decent contract that compensates him well in the AHL, I just wonder if this is the last year we see Lander.

Still lots of season left for him to solidify himself on the club, but time is ticking. As mentioned earlier I would like to see him in a more offensive role next time. Maybe give him some PP time.

 

[LaGu]

Honestly barring Lander finding a GF in Bakersfield or Edmonton I don't really see him sticking around next season. Granted we could probably give him a pretty decent contract that compensates him well in the AHL, I just wonder if this is the last year we see Lander.

Still lots of season left for him to solidify himself on the club, but time is ticking. As mentioned earlier I would like to see him in a more offensive role next time. Maybe give him some PP time.

Depends I guess, he is not (would not be) an expensive player and showed that he isn't a bad option for playing a limited role on the 4th line this season.

Looking at the roster next year I see 4 players as locks for the top 6: McD, Drai, Lucic and Pulj. Then we have RNH, Eberle and Maroon following, but I am not convinced that all three of them will be on the roster next year so I would put a small question mark next to that group. Anyway, that's your top 6 + 1.

I think Pouliot will/should be gone by the deadline.


For the bottom 6 we have Caggiula, Letestu and Slepyshev signed.

Hendricks should not be resigned.

Then it is down to Pitlick, Kassian, Pakarinen, Lander ... Khaira? Beck? Am I missing someone?

In that group I am not so sure that Lander will be the odd man out based on utility and price tag, but he probably does need to do something more this season to prove his worth.

 

[joestevens29]

Depends I guess, he is not (would not be) an expensive player and showed that he isn't a bad option for playing a limited role on the 4th line this season.

Looking at the roster next year I see 4 players as locks for the top 6: McD, Drai, Lucic and Pulj. Then we have RNH, Eberle and Maroon following, but I am not convinced that all three of them will be on the roster next year so I would put a small question mark next to that group. Anyway, that's your top 6 + 1.

I think Pouliot will/should be gone by the deadline.


For the bottom 6 we have Caggiula, Letestu and Slepyshev signed.

Hendricks should not be resigned.

Then it is down to Pitlick, Kassian, Pakarinen, Lander ... Khaira? Beck? Am I missing someone?

In that group I am not so sure that Lander will be the odd man out based on utility and price tag, but he probably does need to do something more this season to prove his worth.

The thing is Lander is always the odd man out. I don't even know that they want him, which could just lead to them replacing him via Free agecny.

 

[LaGu]

The thing is Lander is always the odd man out. I don't even know that they want him, which could just lead to them replacing him via Free agecny.

Of course. He is still RFA though and would probably be a lot cheaper than a free agent with the same qualities (4th line, PK, faceoff).

Anyway, I do agree that this is very possibly his last run in EDM. Unless he manages to find his way back to even 50% of his 14/15 form that is...

 

[Jumptheshark]

Why would we recall LB only to lose him in expansion?

 

[Aceboogie]

Why would we recall LB only to lose him in expansion?

Why would it matter. Dude is around 0.930 in AHL and has been very good for 3 seasons now. Any credible pro scout or GM knows about him and his upside. If he comes into the NHL as a solid back up hes not raising his stock at all, hell already be valued as such

Only way to raise his stock and make himself more appealing for expansion draft would be to come in and take Talbots job and play lights out. Being that we are in a dog fight for payoffs and every game counts- Brossoit doing that would get us into playoffs. Ill be fine losing him to expansion if that were to be the case

We still have Talbot and Ellis is looking legit

 

[Canovin]

Why would it matter. Dude is around 0.930 in AHL and has been very good for 3 seasons now. Any credible pro scout or GM knows about him and his upside. If he comes into the NHL as a solid back up hes not raising his stock at all, hell already be valued as such

Only way to raise his stock and make himself more appealing for expansion draft would be to come in and take Talbots job and play lights out. Being that we are in a dog fight for payoffs and every game counts- Brossoit doing that would get us into playoffs. Ill be fine losing him to expansion if that were to be the case

We still have Talbot and Ellis is looking legit

I doubt Talbot would still be an Oiler after his contract is up. Going from 4.5M to what 6M+ for a goalie? No way. Brossoit is the most ready backup goalie. His turn will come next season. Exposing him to the expansion is not thinking long term. Ellis and Laurikainen could very well flop on us.

 

[Aceboogie]

I doubt Talbot would still be an Oiler after his contract is up. Going from 4.5M to what 6M+ for a goalie? No way. Brossoit is the most ready backup goalie. His turn will come next season. Exposing him to the expansion is not thinking long term. Ellis and Laurikainen could very well flop on us.

Brossoit is already eligible regardless. Vegas could claim him even if he never sees NHL ice this year. Bringing him up would just showcase him more but I highly doubt it would move the needle on Vegas's demand for him UNLESS he plays unreal. In that even we risk losing him but likely make playoffs

Ill gladly have that and then have Talbot man the net for 2 more years and bank on Ellis developing into new starter or finding one along the way in the mean time (or maybe Wells develops into that)

 

[suddeninterest]

I honestly don't think Vegas will take LB. There will be too many more established options available. Looking at nhl.com, even assuming guys like Bishop and MAF get moved and protected, and then TBL and Pit protect Vas and Murray, there are still gonna be players like Greiss, Darling, Raanta, Pickard, Stolarz, Domingue, Hutchinson, Nilsson, Grubauer, Reimer and then possibly guys like Mrazek, Markstrom, and Lack that are all available, under 30 and are either great young prospects who so far have been better in the NHL than LB, or except for Markstrom, Nilsson and (barely) Domingue have 40+ games since 13-14 at .910+ save percentage. LB is too much of a magic bean for them to pick. They are gonna take a guy with 6 career games, zero wins and a .896 + 3.34 GAA? Even if he makes it to 15 games and .915 by the end of the year, whats to tell them it wasn't a fluke? I don't think so.

 

[Aceboogie]

I honestly don't think Vegas will take LB. There will be too many more established options available. Looking at nhl.com, even assuming guys like Bishop and MAF get moved and protected, and then TBL and Pit protect Vas and Murray, there are still gonna be players like Greiss, Darling, Raanta, Pickard, Stolarz, Domingue, Hutchinson, Nilsson, Grubauer, Reimer and then possibly guys like Mrazek, Markstrom, and Lack that are all available, under 30 and are either great young prospects who so far have been better in the NHL than LB, or except for Markstrom, Nilsson and (barely) Domingue have 40+ games since 13-14 at .910+ save percentage. LB is too much of a magic bean for them to pick.

Yup. Plus Johnson is a UFA. Calgary could sign and protect him but that leaves Elliot available

 

[McFlyingV]

I doubt Talbot would still be an Oiler after his contract is up. Going from 4.5M to what 6M+ for a goalie? No way. Brossoit is the most ready backup goalie. His turn will come next season. Exposing him to the expansion is not thinking long term. Ellis and Laurikainen could very well flop on us.

He's exposed whether we call him up or not.