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LowLefty

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The Jets top pp unit had one of its best stretches last year with him there. But I'd rather he be in KC spot and have KC down low.
That will never happen -
KC is not going low to set up the bumper - he's a shooter and has shown that he can put them in from there.
He's also able to skate or reverse out of trouble when the PK is pressuring our PP.
As long as 55 on PP1, it's all going through him - and KC will be the one timer.

Cole should be QB'ing the second PP and find him a shooter and someone in the bumper -

I'd have perfetti QB the second unit
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surixon

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That will never happen -
KC is not going low to set up the bumper - he's a shooter and has shown that he can put them in from there.
He's also able to skate or reverse out of trouble when the PK is pressuring our PP.
As long as 55 on PP1, it's all going through him - and KC will be the one timer.

Cole should be QB'ing the second PP and find him a shooter and someone in the bumper -


Exactly

It hasn't worked in four years with everything going through Mark. I hope they are open to different ideas.
 

WolfHouse

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He's a righty, so you'd have to run it through the right side then?
Really think the toffoli trade was because he's a right shot... and not a perfetti conspiracy

We dont have enough rh to run 1-3-1 with scheif and vilardi on bumper/halfwall
 

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Really think the toffoli trade was because he's a right shot... and not a perfetti conspiracy

We dont have enough rh to run 1-3-1 with scheif and vilardi on bumper/halfwall
Monahan was the bumper specialist. He played that spot in MTL and assumed it when he got here.

IIRC toffoli played down low until Vilardi came back from injury then was bumped to PP2
 

WolfHouse

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Monahan was the bumper specialist. He played that spot in MTL and assumed it when he got here.

IIRC toffoli played down low until Vilardi came back from injury then was bumped to PP2
Yes I think toffoli was a vilardi replacement and not a perfetti replacement... but then vilardi got healthy
 
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I’m waiting for someone to say face offs are not statistically significant
Oh wait :sarcasm:
I’m a believer that they are and can make a difference

They can and do make a difference -- as best I know, about 1/80th of a goal in the O-Zone, about 1/200th of a goal in the D-Zone. So it's definitely not zero.

What we're saying is that the impact of a won faceoff is incredibly small and blown far out of proportion because of the optics and how we remember things; and we're also saying that because this edge is so small, putting out an inferior centerman for a few extra percent to win the face-off is on par with Mr. Burns subbing out Daryl Strawberry for Homer Simpson to "play the percentages".

Here's a good poker analogy. If you're playing old school five-card draw and get dealt a pat four of a kind, it is definitely a small advantage to remember to discard that meaningless fifth card to get a different meaningless fifth card, so that in the unlikely case that another player draws into a huge full house, you can clean their clock because it looks like you drew to a straight or flush or, at worst, a smaller full house

And yes, the one time I did that, it felt great; losing the video clip I made of it in one of my many computer switches is something I lament to this day. T_T

But in the grand scheme of things, on average, how much does one get from actively committing that information to memory? How much of an edge would I have gained over someone who didn't know that?

Compare that to the absolute basics of the game (what hands to open with, how often you should 3-bet bluff with your one-card draws, when and against who you should run those crazy 'pat-hand' bluffs with), and which would be more important for me to work on, if I wanted to improve my skill at this particular game?
 

B33R LEAGUE

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The Laine Trade Talks are getting out of hand.

Seems writers for each beat are linking him to their team as a potential fit.

Laine to NY for a Blake reunion?

Minnesota?

Detroit?

Hurricanes?


Spin The Wheel of Destinations:

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That will never happen -
KC is not going low to set up the bumper - he's a shooter and has shown that he can put them in from there.
He's also able to skate or reverse out of trouble when the PK is pressuring our PP.
As long as 55 on PP1, it's all going through him - and KC will be the one timer.

Cole should be QB'ing the second PP and find him a shooter and someone in the bumper -


Exactly

With all the players who don't mesh with Scheif and KC being on the 2nd unit our PP2 is going to be significantly better than our PP1. :laugh:
 
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KingBogo

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So throw Scheifele on the second PP ? I really hope they don't do that.
They aren’t going to put Scheifele on the 2nd PP. It is summer and people throw darts at the wall to have something to talk about. Sure we had a bad PP but it was even worse when Scheifele was out of the lineup. Hopefully with Lauer out we see some system changes and we get a better functioning PP.
 

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So throw Scheifele on the second PP ? I really hope they don't do that.
I'm not saying that although it is an option - they need to address the issue which might include convincing him to be more active on the PP.
And IMO, that's a challenge with a player like 55 - that stagnant PP has been there for years and convincing a vet to make big changes, is not easy.
Especially if that vet feels there is no issue with how he is QB'ing that particular PP.

If there is a need to make changes but a struggle in getting players on board, what do you do? As noted by others, sometimes that means moving players around.
We need to get our PP in gear - that has to be a priority and the org needs to get it done (rather than letting it run broken like it has for years.
 
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