Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[Ducky10]

Much like the Knights-Oilers series, which I was rooting against the Oilers and not for f*** Vegas. I will now turn my attention back to rooting against f*** Vegas and not for Dallas.

I’ve made peace with myself, I can live with it.

 

[Eyeseeing]

And here in Manitoba three levels of govt. haven't found a tax they didn't like!

Well we have to fix health care & those critical administrative positions won’t fill themselves.

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

Haha you had the Jets going to the finals. Oh you sweet summer child.

A man can dream. A man can only dream...

 

[Guardian17]

 

[jetsv2]

Coyotes are roadkill. Early voting results are in on the Tempe project and it's 56% no. Most of the votes were expected to be early votes so looks like the project is dead.

 

[trebendan]

Coyotes are roadkill. Early voting results are in on the Tempe project and it's 56% no. Most of the votes were expected to be early votes so looks like the project is dead.

So where to now? Houston? Quebec?

 

[AlphaLackey]

Coyotes are roadkill. Early voting results are in on the Tempe project and it's 56% no. Most of the votes were expected to be early votes so looks like the project is dead.

I mean, is it really the end? This team long since went from "Dead Man Walking" to "The Walking Dead" so I have no idea what to believe anymore.

 

[jetsv2]

I mean, is it really the end? This team long since went from "Dead Man Walking" to "The Walking Dead" so I have no idea what to believe anymore.

They are now in a sub 5k seat arena that even the league has acknowledged can't work long term and they now have no plan for a new arena. It's looking pretty grim for them.

 

[bustamente]

The 2B entertainment district never really had a chance, should of stayed in Glendale and died a slow death

 

[mondo3]

I’m shocked it was a no vote. Seems illogical as there was no downside to allocating the land for the team

 

[jetsv2]

Neither Bettman or the Coyotes CEO made any kind of commitment to Arizona in their statements. Both said that ownership and the league would have to discuss their options at this point.

Sounded very much like they have no plan b and it might finally be the end of the road in Arizona.

It sounds like based on the Coyotes internal polling they were expecting it to pass.

 

[Aggie204]

They are now in a sub 5k seat arena that even the league has acknowledged can't work long term and they now have no plan for a new arena. It's looking pretty grim for them.

They should’ve moved 10+ years ago. Take the Coyotes to the shed, get the Houston Obesity in the league already.

 

[bustamente]

Tilman Fertitta owner of the Houston Rockets has in the past expressed interest in bringing hockey to Houston, if he is still interested all they have to do is negotiate a price and call the moving vans.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Fold the damn franchise and let the rest of the league draft its players and prospects. Pick that desert dog's bones clean.

I know it won't happen but for shits and giggles, I would love to see a Coyotes mock contraction draft thread on the main boards.

 

[ps241]

I’m shocked it was a no vote. Seems illogical as there was no downside to allocating the land for the team

Warning; I haven’t read the proposal for this new project however.……..

The timing to commit to large long term development projects in this region couldn’t be worse. We we are just completing a $7.5 million project in Scottsdale right now which is 35% more expensive than precovid (apples to apples) with no end in sight. Now couple that with high interest rates and the looming potential downtown office real estate crash in the US and It is a bad time to be taking votes on long term infrastructure projects.

edit: I bounced over the business of hockey thread on this topic and the ”no” vote is a bit more complicated and nuanced. Nice read and cool to have someone like @mouser doing detail oriented posting that adds true value to a thread.

 

[cbcwpg]

Re: The Coyotes

 

[SUX2BU]

Just relocate that team to Houston ......... let them have a problem

 

[sipowicz]

Front runners Houston, Kansas City, Salt Lake City with Atlanta and Quebec City with less of a chance to have the name Coyotes in their realm

A team in Hamilton would be sold out forever and bring in a ton of $$$$ but that’s not what the Leafs, Sabres and NHL want!

 

[cbcwpg]

Will be interested to see how the NHLPA reacts to all of this ( Arizona Coyotes ). Will they demand a relocation immediately? No way they want the team to contract.

If the Coyotes move....where are all the other teams going to dump their horrible contracts?

 

[Guffman]

Something that I just posted in the Playoff forums that I wanted to share with my dear friends here:

A new feature is being rolled out today where senior writer and respected poster Guffman provides various Top 10 List Rankings based on historical record.

Top 10 Teams: Longest Conference Final Berth Drought

Columbus	Never (team existed in 2000-2001 season)
Toronto	2002
Minnesota	2003
Calgary	2004
Buffalo	2007
Detroit	2009
Philadelphia	2010
Vancouver	2011
Arizona / Salt Lake City	2012
New Jersey	2012

Guffman Analysis

2023 was an exciting year for some teams to break their Conference Final drought.

The Florida Panthers had the longest drought stretching all the way back to the 1996 season. Under the astute leadership of Paul Maurice, the Panthers defeated the Toronto Maple Leafs 4-1 in the second round to remove themselves from this ignoble list. For the Maple Leafs, they lost their opportunity to remove themselves from this list and actually move up to second place.

The New Jersey Devils, previously tied for 10th on the list, also failed in their opportunity to advance, losing to the Carolina Hurricanes. They continue to close off the list, along with the Arizona / Salt Lake City franchise.

 

[John Agar]

Plain Jane has some new competition:

That thread is flippin hilarious…

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[JetsFan815]

Front runners Houston, Kansas City, Salt Lake City with Atlanta and Quebec City with less of a chance to have the name Coyotes in their realm

A team in Hamilton would be sold out forever and bring in a ton of $$$$ but that’s not what the Leafs, Sabres and NHL want!

If the NHL's claim is that the GTA isn't big enough for 2 GTA teams and that Quebec isn't big enough for 2 Quebec teams then I would love to see how Bettman twists and contorts himself to justify that Missouri of all places can support 2 NHL teams if Kansas City is the final decision.

I am low-key rooting for Salt Lake City, just so that there is a market that is going to be even less desirable and on more NTC lists than Winnipeg

 

[tbcwpg]

If the NHL's claim is that the GTA isn't big enough for 2 GTA teams and that Quebec isn't big enough for 2 Quebec teams then I would love to see how Bettman twists and contorts himself to justify that Missouri of all places can support 2 NHL teams if Kansas City is the final decision.

I am low-key rooting for Salt Lake City, just so that there is a market that is going to be even less desirable and on more NTC lists than Winnipeg

SLC fits a certain lifestyle. Not talking about the whole Mormon thing, I'm sure that would be tough to overcome, but I doubt it would overtake Winnipeg on the NTC list. Even with the reputation, SLC is pretty secular compared to the rest of the state, and the weather is a drastic improvement over Winnipeg in the winter.

 

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