Around the League Thread part V
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kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
Axl Rhoadz
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If NSH keeps losing, that’s not a bad thing either.
Nashville looks like the Kings some nights. Just kind of hitting that wall where they dont have the extra gear that some of the better teams are pushing towards. Still a very capable team though.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
KingsFan7824
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Cost certainty for players. Instead of handing out $30m over 3 years, and then getting into a competition for services with multiple owners, we'll give you the $30m, but over 6 years, but as much up front as we can.
You might like the cap, but the players don't, I doubt GMs do, and some owners like it. All you have to do is look at what teams are doing. Bend the rules. Find and use little loopholes. The amount of times the league as a whole has had to amend the cap system. Hey, nobody ever said we couldn't sign a guy for 15 years at $80m with the first $60m in the first 4 years. Ok, so the strong financial teams can still exploit this system, so we have to change that.
King'sPawn
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Owners love the cap. It's cost certainty. Maybe a couple owners of rich teams prefer being able to try and buy a cup, and don't like subsidizing the poor teams. But you're underselling how much the owners like it.
GMs get leverage when negotiating contracts. They can only spend so much. Sure, a player may try to move onto another team, but they all work in the same constraints. The GMs like a cap more than they would like not having a cap.
Players - the stars are still getting their money. The fringe players don't. So... sure, most players don't like the cap.
Exploitation of the system doesn't mean they dislike it. They are using the competitive advantages they can. Just like when the Rangers spent $9 million a year on Holik before the cap.
KingsFan7824
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Exploitation of the system is not the same as competitive advantage. Spending $9m on Holik because you feel like it is using your competitive advantage of being the team in NY. Exploiting the system is a 13 year contract for a 30 year old guy that both you and the player know he's not going to finish. Those last 5 years at $1m in cash aren't real, other than to lower to cap hit in the years when you actually want the player. He'll "retire" with an injury, and you'll send the cap hit to Arizona.
Stars might be getting their money, but they would get even more with no cap.
I would disagree on GMs. They can't get out of a mistake now, but are also basically forced to make mistakes. With no cap, if your $7m player sucks, you just bring in another one. Or, if you're a cheap organization, you can trade your overpaid guy to a team that doesn't care what it spends. $7m guy on the 4th line? Whatever, he brings veteran grit. Today, you're stuck with that $7m mistake, no matter what team you are.
GMs should be better and not make the mistake.
Ok, but then don't let players become free to sign anywhere they want, playing teams against each other. Or don't base GM employment on team results. Or fans shouldn't complain about teams not adding talent if 7 year deals for 29 year olds are a bad idea.
Steve Zissou
I'll order you a red cap and a Speedo.
I know everyone 'round here loves to predict this kids' future but I'm still rootin' for him.
I was thinking about that issue and why not 50% cap relief over a certain amount instead of 100%? That way a 10mil player isn't getting replaced by another 10mil.
ZJames
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In his draft year, I was greedy for goal scorers. I wanted the Kings to trade down to draft both him AND Kaliyev. But I can settle for Kaliyev, whom I still think will end up being the best of the Kings young forwards.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
King'sPawn
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He's going to be ruined getting that ice time. I heard it from the experts on this very forum.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
I wanted to do the same thing, draft both of them. Scoring wingers have been such a disaster area for the Kings for so long and that was the chance to draft two elite shooters, one a right shot and one a left. Imagine the Kings PP for the next decade with those two firing one-timers.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Ziggy Stardust
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Placing young players in a position to succeed seems completely preposterous to me. It's best for their development when they're placed in a position to fail.
cyclones22
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Yep, promote Arty when the season is on the line because the first line offense dried up. Make him grind all season on the 4th line and then when the first line isn't playing well and the season is about to crater, place him on it to save it...for 2 games. The young forwards should have been integrated to playing with offensive role vets months ago, not days ago. Kopi is struggling right now. 4 goals since the start of February. TMc is garbage.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
I think it's great he's found his game in the last 25 games or whatever, but what happens to him when guys key on him when the games count at the start of the season? That's what happened to start right the year, right? He had no space or couldn't get to the middle or high shooting areas because guys were all over him.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Guys do key on him, he is on Montreal’s first line and facing other teams top checkers.
He is like a better and faster version of Kaliyev. Neither guy is going to be overly noticeable the entire game but are capable of scoring from just about anywhere in the o-zone. You just can’t teach people to shoot the puck like they do.
Imagine Cole Caufield with the Kings organization yeeeah what can go wrong there. And with Todd coaching...fourth line checking duties baby. 
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Imagine Cole Caufield with the Kings organization yeeeah what can go wrong there. And with Todd coaching...fourth line checking duties baby.
He'd be in ontario on the 3rd line and PK and the only sniff he'd get of the PP is 28 year olds' gear when they return to the bench
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