Proposal: Ana-wpg

[Ducks Nation*]

Why is Morrissey being compared to Theodore? On what planet is he the same tier of prospect.

 

[JetsHomer]

Why is Morrissey being compared to Theodore? On what planet is he the same tier of prospect.

The planet Earth where Morrissey was better than Theodore ever single year after the draft with the exception of the most recent.

 

[CaptainChef]

Why is Morrissey being compared to Theodore? On what planet is he the same tier of prospect.

In that vein, May I ask if you read any of the discussion on here or what planet you may have arrived from.

Sure the Jets are slow-playing Morrissey's arrival into the NHL & he's been on one of the most offensively challenged AHL teams in the league, but until a year or two ago, Morrissey was widely considered to be at least as good if not a better offensive defenseman than Theodore.

Don't believe me - see how many times Morrissey was mentioned in the top 5 vs Theodore in this HF thread
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1744727&highlight=offensive+defensemen+prospects

 

[Ducksgo*]

Nah, I do think Ehlers is the better prospect, and in a vacuum, we'd win a 1-for-1 trade involving the two. Same as you though, I don't think I'd want to part with Theodore. We have plenty of talent on the left side, but unfortunately, with the trade rumors surrounding Fowler, Lindholm's contract issues, and Larsson being unproven still, Theodore is about the only sure thing we have on the left side.

Sums it all up. So let's say Theo and Vatanen will carry the defense if everything goes to hell. Lindholm doesn't sign, fowler traded to Detroit for Tatar +. Larsson getting a few calls ups when our defense gets injured? I'm alright with that scenario because I know Theo is a number 1 in the making.

If Ehlers isn't available Theo shouldn't be available as well trading with the jets.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Why is Morrissey being compared to Theodore? On what planet is he the same tier of prospect.

planet winnipeg

 

[KaseMeOutside]

The planet Earth where Morrissey was better than Theodore ever single year after the draft with the exception of the most recent.

so not earth?

 

[JetsHomer]

planet winnipeg

I guess we can't all live in planet Anaheim with lindholmie and mytduxfan where Fowler, Lindohlm and Vatanen are all undisputed #1 Dmen and Larsson, Montour and Theodore are all guaranteed top pairing guys.

 

[dracom]

Theo is the better overall prospect when compared to Morrisey by far. If Morrisey was better he would have challenged for a spot on the Jets defense, instead he played one game and had no points. Theo stayed on the defensively loaded Ducks and put up points. Theo is better.

 

[CaptainChef]

planet winnipeg

Funny how most of the posters on that HF forum were from different fan bases & they mostly had Morrissey rated higher than Theodore.

Oh I'm sure there will be lots of speculation about how Theodore has left Morrissey in the dust in the last year, or maybe that Theodore is in fact a better defensive specialist than Morrissey.

Anyway, carry on with your fantasizing about how good all your defensemen and defensive prospects are -- I think I have about 7 pegged as top 2 defense pairings so far

 

[dracom]

I guess we can't all live in planet Anaheim with lindholmie and mytduxfan where Fowler, Lindohlm and Vatanen are all undisputed #1 Dmen and Larsson, Montour and Theodore are all guaranteed top pairing guys.

Must be nice to live in a world where you can make up arguments about other people who haven't even talked in a thread, lol. Also, no one thinks Fowler,Vats,Montour,or Larsson have #1 potential, but don't let things like facts get in the way your posts...

 

[dracom]

Funny how most of the posters on that HF forum were from different fan bases & they mostly had Morrissey rated higher than Theodore.

Oh I'm sure there will be lots of speculation about how Theodore has left Morrissey in the dust in the last year, or maybe that Theodore is in fact a better defensive specialist than Morrissey.

Anyway, carry on with your fantasizing about how good all your defensemen and defensive prospects are -- I think I have about 7 pegged as top 2 defense pairings so far

Oh cool, another poster making things up to suit their claims. Classic.

 

[CaptainChef]

Oh cool, another poster making things up to suit their claims. Classic.

Contrary to you, I've not made this up or relied on our fans opinions to judge this. Have a look at that thread and lets hear all the excuses.

 

[JetsHomer]

Theo is the better overall prospect when compared to Morrisey by far. If Morrisey was better he would have challenged for a spot on the Jets defense, instead he played one game and had no points. Theo stayed on the defensively loaded Ducks and put up points. Theo is better.

You do understand the concept of "development" right?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Funny how most of the posters on that HF forum were from different fan bases & they mostly had Morrissey rated higher than Theodore.

Oh I'm sure there will be lots of speculation about how Theodore has left Morrissey in the dust in the last year, or maybe that Theodore is in fact a better defensive specialist than Morrissey.

Anyway, carry on with your fantasizing about how good all your defensemen and defensive prospects are -- I think I have about 7 pegged as top 2 defense pairings so far

Well if the internet said it, then it must be true ... I mean everyone on hfboards is a professional hockey analyst.


I think its fair to say both sides would not be interested in the move... value is irrelevant because if Theodore hits his potential they we likely lose this trade, but the value he brings to the team money wise/position wise is much too important to trade him.

 

[lindholmie]

I guess we can't all live in planet Anaheim with lindholmie and mytduxfan where Fowler, Lindohlm and Vatanen are all undisputed #1 Dmen and Larsson, Montour and Theodore are all guaranteed top pairing guys.

Bro wtf lmao. I'm chillen. Vatenen and montour will never be top pairing. The other 3 yeah for sure

Oh **** I forgot about Theodore too. Damn that's 4 potential top pairing Dmen. Damn ducks are stacked

 

[Ducksgo*]

Contrary to you, I've not made this up or relied on our fans opinions to judge this. Have a look at that thread and lets hear all the excuses.

Which is, Ehlers isn't worth Theodore. Your entire rants have been really asinine. Because you aren't justifying value for value. All you have in the entire thread is bash how bad of a trade it is With homerism regarding Theo trade. Get your act together

 

[Randal61]

Bro wtf lmao. I'm chillen. Vatenen and montour will never be top pairing. The other 3 yeah for sure

Oh **** I forgot about Theodore too. Damn that's 4 potential top pairing Dmen. Damn ducks are stacked

California Dreami'n

 

[Stej]

Wow, this thread is going well.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Funny how most of the posters on that HF forum were from different fan bases & they mostly had Morrissey rated higher than Theodore.

Oh I'm sure there will be lots of speculation about how Theodore has left Morrissey in the dust in the last year, or maybe that Theodore is in fact a better defensive specialist than Morrissey.

Anyway, carry on with your fantasizing about how good all your defensemen and defensive prospects are -- I think I have about 7 pegged as top 2 defense pairings so far

Make a poll.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Which is, Ehlers isn't worth Theodore. Your entire rants have been really asinine. Because you aren't justifying value for value. All you have in the entire thread is bash how bad of a trade it is With homerism regarding Theo trade. Get your act together

Ehlers is worth Theo, I would add to theo to get Ehlers on the ducks

 

[eternalbedhead]

Sums it all up. So let's say Theo and Vatanen will carry the defense if everything goes to hell. Lindholm doesn't sign, fowler traded to Detroit for Tatar +. Larsson getting a few calls ups when our defense gets injured? I'm alright with that scenario because I know Theo is a number 1 in the making.

If Ehlers isn't available Theo shouldn't be available as well trading with the jets.

If Lindholm doesn't sign, for whatever reason, Fowler shouldn't be going anywhere, and Larsson isn't getting call-ups since he's in the SHL this year. Let Fowler play with Manson, let Theodore play with Despres if he's healthy, and keep Stoner and Vats together, and let Bieksa watch from the press box.


Theodore shouldn't be going anywhere at all until at least Lindholm is locked up long-term.

 

[CaptainChef]

Make a poll.

So it can be stuffed with Ana & Wpg votes?

This was an independent queery as to who the top 5 offensive D-men prospects were. May have changed slightly based on useage since then, but sort of shoots down all the talk that Morrissey is in a dif tier than Theodore or all the other crap we were getting regarding that comparison.

 

[Exit Dose]

I have no problem with Morrissey being put on the same tier as Theodore. Both are equally promising. Morrissey is more of a two-way threat, so extrapolating on offensive stats isn't really getting to the heart of the issue. Both looked like they had high ceilings at all levels. It's not like Lindholm was some statistical beast in the AHL, but if you watched him it was understandable that he had a high ceiling. I'd argue that the same is true of Morrissey.

 

[CaptainChef]

I have no problem with Morrissey being put on the same tier as Theodore. Both are equally promising. Morrissey is more of a two-way threat, so extrapolating on offensive stats isn't really getting to the heart of the issue. Both looked like they had high ceilings at all levels. It's not like Lindholm was some statistical beast in the AHL, but if you watched him it was understandable that he had a high ceiling. I'd argue that the same is true of Morrissey.

Indeed. Glad we got that settled because this talk of Theodore being totally on another level from Morrissey was getting a little much. So as it stands, Ana has much greater needs for Theodore than Wpg does & there will be no deal consummated for Theodore where we give up on one of our A prospects.

Now if one of the other, lesser D-men were available & we didn't have to give up an Ehlers, Connor or other A prospect to get him, perhaps we could talk.

 

[lindholmie]

Indeed. Glad we got that settled because this talk of Theodore being totally on another level from Morrissey was getting a little much. So as it stands, Ana has much greater needs for Theodore than Wpg does & there will be no deal consummated for Theodore where we give up on one of our A prospects.

Now if one of the other, lesser D-men were available & we didn't have to give up an Ehlers, Connor or other A prospect to get him, perhaps we could talk.

lol i hope youre not talking about larsson or montour. they are A prospects