Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

[Spearmint Rhino]

Trouba on the receiving end of a dirty cheap shot is kinda fitting

 

[Voight]

The other thread got locked, but I'll repeat what I said there....

Trouba has to be furious, right? Wife is still a Dr in NY and that was one of the key reasons for the original move to NY? And they just had a baby earlier this year?

Last summer multiple teams not on his NTC list were interested in him yet he said he wouldn't report to any of them. He did this to himself.

 

[Voight]

Surprised by the reaction in here. I think people would be surprised by how many GM's would take Trouba on their team.

Anaheim didn't give up much, they get a hard nosed defenseman & leader to help with their young group. Only 1 more year left on his deal after this one, so its not like its a long term contract at this point.

The issue wasn't the player or how good he is, it was his cap hit. Most GMs even if they had the cap space do not want to commit 8 million dollars to someone like him.

 

[seafoam]

ANA probably gets a second for him in 24 months after retaining 50%.

Verbeek is a squid.

 

[Tawnos]

Don't understand why some people think they did Trouba dirty. First of all, he did this to himself with his poor play, if he played like an 8 million dollar player then he'd still be a Ranger. Second, his wife's residency is almost over, so its really only going to be 3 1/2-4 months they're not together, members of the armed forces are away from their significant others for much longer than that. Third, this is a business at the end of the day, he refused to be traded anywhere last off season ands this is the consequence of that.

I feel like that last part is being overlooked in the media. There was a segment on Sportsnet tonight where they were talking about how talking about waiving Trouba wasn’t keeping good faith with the M-NTC. But the M-NTC is there to give the team options for trade, and Trouba used it to block out any team that might be interested and able to afford his contract. That wasn’t really in good faith either. And to be clear, I have no problem with him doing so. It’s totally within his rights to use it that way. I just think if you’re going to play that kind of hardball, you should expect the team to do likewise.

The issue wasn't the player or how good he is, it was his cap hit. Most GMs even if they had the cap space do not want to commit 8 million dollars to someone like him.

GMs who have a ton of cap space they know they can’t use tend not to care that much about the size of the contract if they like the player. We’ve seen that before and I’m sure we’ll see it again.

 

[Voight]

I feel like that last part is being overlooked in the media. There was a segment on Sportsnet tonight where they were talking about how talking about waiving Trouba wasn’t keeping good faith with the M-NTC. But the M-NTC is there to give the team options for trade, and Trouba used it to block out any team that might be interested and able to afford his contract. That wasn’t really in good faith either. And to be clear, I have no problem with him doing so. It’s totally within his rights to use it that way. I just think if you’re going to play that kind of hardball, you should expect the team to do likewise.



GMs who have a ton of cap space they know they can’t use tend not to care that much about the size of the contract if they like the player. We’ve seen that before and I’m sure we’ll see it again.

The issue was tho, they apparently had trades with teams not on the NTC list lined up and he basically said he didn't care he wouldn't report to these teams. So he was acting in really bad faith.

The residency ends in June. It's not that bad for a couple of this level of salary.

I have a wife that also went through residency and fellowship and we survived the geographical inconveniences it brought with far less money than Trouba.

It's going to be fine for them. Sucks for their kid, but it's a few months and that kid is going to be set for life.

There's also thousands of kids who dont see their mom or dad for months on end because they are ac ross the world serving their country,

 

[FiveTacos]

Don't understand why some people think they did Trouba dirty. First of all, he did this to himself with his poor play, if he played like an 8 million dollar player then he'd still be a Ranger.

I suspect he was probably gone either way. Even if he were playing well, the team desperately needs a retool, but some dead weight simply cannot be moved (like Zib). So that means you gotta get rid of some other guys, sometimes even if they are good ... thus why there's talk of Kreider too.

They have to take steps back if they're going to have any chance of avoiding the classic slow death spiral that teams take towards the end of their window.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

So he'll be away from his wife and young kid for.. 4ish months?

Not exactly the end of the world

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Thank God it wasn't Detroit. We have enough overpriced veterans.

Anaheim is going to retain salary and flip him to Detroit.

 

[Voight]

I suspect he was probably gone either way. Even if he were playing well, the team desperately needs a retool, but some dead weight simply cannot be moved (like Zib). So that means you gotta get rid of some other guys, sometimes even if they are good ... thus why there's talk of Kreider too.

They have to take steps back if they're going to have any chance of avoiding the classic slow death spiral that teams take towards the end of their window.

This and with a Shesterkin extension incoming they needed the cap space. Plus Lafs extension kicking in.

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

ANA probably gets a second for him in 24 months after retaining 50%.

Verbeek is a squid.

True.

If he plays decent he might get a first. If Gaustad can get a 1 st...

Never underestimate how desperate and dumb GM's become at the TDL.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

ANA probably gets a second for him in 24 months after retaining 50%.

Verbeek is a squid.

So he gets paid 6m next year, I don't know if that's the type of move ownership would love, spending that much on a relatively minor draft capital upgrade. I think he legitimately likes Trouba (based on his apparent desire for grit/truculence) and wants him for 1.5 years, maybe longer if he works out.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Do the Ducks want Tyler Myers as well?

The price is the same - random defenseman and a 4th. I’ll even take a 5th.

Fans thst rag on Myers is the perfect litmus test on hockey knowledge

 

[infected13]

I haven't seen NHL fans this irrationally upset about a trade and the players wife since Pronger got traded to Anaheim.

 

[12ozPapa]

For me, it’s an odd move for the Ducks. It seems Verbeek actually thinks this team is playoff ready and Trouba will help bolster that chance.

This team sucks balls and doesn’t need this player - seems dumb and shortsighted

 

[Czechboy]

Only time I read about Trouba is when he's delivering headshots and hurting people. So, I'm not that familiar with him. Why did he get traded? Is he not good at hockey? Seems like the Rangers really wanted him gone? Why?

 

[FiveTacos]

For me, it’s an odd move for the Ducks. It seems Verbeek actually thinks this team is playoff ready and Trouba will help bolster that chance.

They didn't do this as a win now move.

Dumoulin will be gone by the TDL. Fowler is probably gone too. That leaves only Gudas for next year as a veteran D. You gotta have more experience than that, even as a rebuilding team. You can't run Gudas and 5 kids out there every night.

Fowler if he were stylistically different would probably be kept, and then no need for Trouba. But the things he does best are being made redundant ... The young guys are now getting the OZ starts and PP time. Trouba is a better fit in that none of their young D bring his size/physicality.

Additionally the cap floor is rising, and Trouba has a higher cap hit than Fowler while making less in actual money. So a better fit there too.

 

[duckpuck]

For me, it’s an odd move for the Ducks. It seems Verbeek actually thinks this team is playoff ready and Trouba will help bolster that chance.

This team sucks balls and doesn’t need this player - seems dumb and shortsighted

Regardless of playoff considerations, Trouba, on the ice, is a player the ducks can use for the next 1.5 years. Most ducks fans agree on that even though there is a bit of a logjam in the short run, with both Fowler and Dumoulin likely to be moved. The ducks badly needed a d-man with size and snarl.

The only issue is Trouba's contract which is not an issue at all for the ducks. The real money dollars are lower than the AAV, and both are fine for the ducks.

So your entire post is just completely misguided.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Only time I read about Trouba is when he's delivering headshots and hurting people. So, I'm not that familiar with him. Why did he get traded? Is he not good at hockey? Seems like the Rangers really wanted him gone? Why?

Trouba was always very polarizing among NYR fans, since the day he signed. He was never great or a super impactful player for them. You have to remember, he was traded for and signed before the Rangers really knew what they had in Adam Fox.

His play was okay for the first few years, but dipped as recent years went on. He was injured in last year's playoffs but was attrocious. The writing was on the wall for a while that they were going to try and move on, his play was dipping, wasn't worth his contract and his full NMC was expiring so they had an out. And they had Adam Fox obviously and a young RHD Braden Schneider who looks promising.

They tried to trade him this past offseason but couldn't make it work with his partial NTC. His wife is practicing medicine in the NY area and he didn't want to leave, was the narrative.


The Rangers los 6 of 7 games recently, and have not looked good really for the whole year, Trouba very much a part of that. With all that pressure and being the captain and his play continuing to dip along with the team, he finally caved and agreed to waive his NTC i guess. After the Rangers threatened to waive him to free up some cap space and flexibility for moves this year and beyond.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Rangers look like a dynasty team since the Anaheim Make A Wish Hockey Club bailed them out of their worst albatross contract.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Trouba vetos a trade to Detroit only to end up in Anaheim instead. He can’t be happy about that at all. Should have gone home instead over the summer where was wanted long term.

He actually waived for Anaheim so why wouldn’t he be happy about it?

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Trouba on the receiving end of a dirty cheap shot is kinda fitting

Got a video of this?

 

[Czechboy]

Trouba was always very polarizing among NYR fans, since the day he signed. He was never great or a super impactful player for them. You have to remember, he was traded for and signed before the Rangers really knew what they had in Adam Fox.

His play was okay for the first few years, but dipped as recent years went on. He was injured in last year's playoffs but was attrocious. The writing was on the wall for a while that they were going to try and move on, his play was dipping, wasn't worth his contract and his full NMC was expiring so they had an out. And they had Adam Fox obviously and a young RHD Braden Schneider who looks promising.

They tried to trade him this past offseason but couldn't make it work with his partial NTC. His wife is practicing medicine in the NY area and he didn't want to leave, was the narrative.


The Rangers los 6 of 7 games recently, and have not looked good really for the whole year, Trouba very much a part of that. With all that pressure and being the captain and his play continuing to dip along with the team, he finally caved and agreed to waive his NTC i guess. After the Rangers threatened to waive him to free up some cap space and flexibility for moves this year and beyond.

Thanks... I don't see the guy they traded for playing right now. Is he hurt or not good enough for the Rangers? Or just hasn't arrived yet?

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Thanks... I don't see the guy they traded for playing right now. Is he hurt or not good enough for the Rangers? Or just hasn't arrived yet?

He's not playing due to the Rangers using Lindgren, Miller and Jones.

Until Lindgren is gone he probably won't play a lot. He's competing with Jones who's a smaller, fast D with good puck skills. He'll probably get a few games here and there.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Thanks... I don't see the guy they traded for playing right now. Is he hurt or not good enough for the Rangers? Or just hasn't arrived yet?

Vaakanainen is here, but he's on IR with an injury right now. I think he'll factor into the lineup for at least a look at some point. Rangers have Victor Mancini who's a rookie and shown some potential but also struggles.

Zac Jones is another guy who tends to sit sometimes.

I'm sure hell factor into the lineup at some point for one of those guys if only for a look.