Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

[thebestnic]

On the first pair with Fowler in his Ducks debut

Good first pair... Ten years ago

 

[Ricky Bobby]

I don't get why people are worked up about Anahiem taking on Trouba.

They're nowhere near the cap this season or next. In real dollars he makes $6M this season (pro-rated it obviously less) and next season.

UFA D always take overspending and/or giving out extra years. Especially if you're a bad. If someone said this past July that Trouba got a 2 year x $6M contract people it wouldn't have even registered as a bad deal.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Looked pretty damn good tonight. His minus one rating was from Dostal coughing it up behind the net.

 

[Fatass]

Rangers miss him. That’s for certain.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Rangers miss him. That’s for certain.

...no they don't.

They're better off losing without him than losing with him and his $8M cap hit.

They need to snap out of this funk and float near a wild card spot until the trade deadline. They'll be fine.

 

[Fatass]

...no they don't.

They're better off losing without him than losing with him and his $8M cap hit.

They need to snap out of this funk and float near a wild card spot until the trade deadline. They'll be fine.

If Shisterkin isn’t out of this world phenomenal, the Rangers get annihilated tonight. And that’s against Chicago, the worst team in the league.
The Rangers are bad. Losing Trouba literally ripped the heart out of that club. Huge mistake, imo.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

If Shisterkin isn’t out of this world phenomenal, the Rangers get annihilated tonight. And that’s against Chicago, the worst team in the league.
The Rangers are bad. Losing Trouba literally ripped the heart out of that club. Huge mistake, imo.

They're bad for other reasons.

If Trouba plays tonight they lose 4-1.

He can't make an outlet pass. He can't defend. He can't skate, and he can't generate offense.

All for one low price of $8 million dollars a year.

Good riddance.

 

[Fatass]

They're bad for other reasons.

If Trouba plays tonight they lose 4-1.

He can't make an outlet pass. He can't defend. He can't skate, and he can't generate offense.

All for one low price of $8 million dollars a year.

Good riddance.

Rangers should tear it down and rebuild. They already traded away their foundation.

 

[LuGBuG]

They're bad for other reasons.

If Trouba plays tonight they lose 4-1.

He can't make an outlet pass. He can't defend. He can't skate, and he can't generate offense.

All for one low price of $8 million dollars a year.

Good riddance.

Yeah Trouba is responsible for 3 goals tonight if he plays…… get a grip pal. Im not syaing Rangers should’ve kept him but this is horrific bias.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Trouba more like Troubad

 

[Nogatco Rd]

The Rangers are bad. Losing Trouba literally ripped the heart out of that club. Huge mistake, imo.

They were playing like dogshit before the trade tho?

I might buy that shopping him last year demoralized the room and undercut the leadership group, but hard to say they are any worse off after trading him when they were so bad in November/December before they even cut him loose

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

They were playing like dogshit before the trade tho?

I might buy that shopping him last year demoralized the room and undercut the leadership group, but hard to say they are any worse off after trading him when they were so bad in November/December before they even cut him loose

Literally everyone in the hockey world except for Ducks and Devils fans know that your team is better off with $8M in cap space than you are with Jacob Trouba on your team.

So much copium in this thread

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Literally everyone in the hockey world except for Ducks and Devils fans know that your team is better off with $8M in cap space than you are with Jacob Trouba on your team.

So much copium in this thread

lol i didn’t consider the devils fan ‘concern trolling’ angle. Makes sense now

 

[seanlinden]

Literally everyone in the hockey world except for Ducks and Devils fans know that your team is better off with $8M in cap space than you are with Jacob Trouba on your team.

So much copium in this thread

There is no amount of "cap space" that is better than a player, period.

Now, you can argue that there are better ways to spend $8m than on Jacob Trouba, and for many teams, you'd probably be right.

However, put yourself in Anaheim's shoes for a moment. They're more concerned with budget than they are cap, so he's a $6m player to them.

Now consider how difficult it is for a team like Anaheim to attract a UFA... they had to give a 33 year old Radko Gudas a 3 year deal at $4m for him to go sign there. Getting a player of Trouba's ilk, would have not just required an overpayment, but likely in the 6-7 year range.

For a team like Anaheim, it's better to pay more today in order to get a shorter deal.

 

[caliamad]

I know he isn’t worth the 8m cap hit but we definitely needed a physical top4 rhd defenseman.

Allows gudas to play 2nd pairing / matchups which he much better suited for.

He a physical presence to complement our pick skating defenseman in Fowler minty and zelwegger. Honestly he is a perfect fit for us. I’m personally glad we didn’t try to milk this deal and risk losing him.

If we can get healthy I think Anaheim is a dark horse for playoffs.

Honestly our weakest point on defense might be Fowler now. I know it’s not super elite yet but I like the combos / depth / skill sets.

There is no amount of "cap space" that is better than a player, period.

Now, you can argue that there are better ways to spend $8m than on Jacob Trouba, and for many teams, you'd probably be right.

However, put yourself in Anaheim's shoes for a moment. They're more concerned with budget than they are cap, so he's a $6m player to them.

Now consider how difficult it is for a team like Anaheim to attract a UFA... they had to give a 33 year old Radko Gudas a 3 year deal at $4m for him to go sign there. Getting a player of Trouba's ilk, would have not just required an overpayment, but likely in the 6-7 year range.

For a team like Anaheim, it's better to pay more today in order to get a shorter deal.

This guy gets it

 

[12ozPapa]

I know he isn’t worth the 8m cap hit but we definitely needed a physical top4 rhd defenseman.

Allows gudas to play 2nd pairing / matchups which he much better suited for.

He a physical presence to complement our pick skating defenseman in Fowler minty and zelwegger. Honestly he is a perfect fit for us. I’m personally glad we didn’t try to milk this deal and risk losing him.

If we can get healthy I think Anaheim is a dark horse for playoffs.

Honestly our weakest point on defense might be Fowler now. I know it’s not super elite yet but I like the combos / depth / skill sets.


This guy gets it

And what concerns me is Verbeek believes this and wants it. We are a few seasons away from legit playoff contention.

 

[dgibb10]

Literally everyone in the hockey world except for Ducks and Devils fans know that your team is better off with $8M in cap space than you are with Jacob Trouba on your team.

So much copium in this thread

What devils fans are you talking to that think trouba is worth 8 mill?

The general consensus is that Pat Verbeek is a moron for paying to take on that awful contract

There is no amount of "cap space" that is better than a player, period.

Now, you can argue that there are better ways to spend $8m than on Jacob Trouba, and for many teams, you'd probably be right.

However, put yourself in Anaheim's shoes for a moment. They're more concerned with budget than they are cap, so he's a $6m player to them.

Now consider how difficult it is for a team like Anaheim to attract a UFA... they had to give a 33 year old Radko Gudas a 3 year deal at $4m for him to go sign there. Getting a player of Trouba's ilk, would have not just required an overpayment, but likely in the 6-7 year range.

For a team like Anaheim, it's better to pay more today in order to get a shorter deal.

"Now consider how difficult it is for a team like Anaheim to attract a UFA... they had to give a 33 year old Radko Gudas a 3 year deal at $4m for him to go sign there. Getting a player of Trouba's ilk, would have not just required an overpayment, but likely in the 6-7 year range."

This is a contradiction.

Radko Gudas literally is a player of Trouba's ilk.


The fact that the ducks acquired Radko Gudas for 4 mill x 3 years quite literally proves that you do not need to pay 8 mill and 7 years to acquire a player like trouba.

 

[dgibb10]

They've accumulated a ton of picks in other ways without having to take on bad contracts. You only have so many contract slots, only so many roster spots for developing in the AHL, etc.. There's been no shortage of draft capital in Anaheim that they needed to get more at the cost of taking on someone else's mistakes.

I mean, 12 picks in rounds 1-3 the past two years, is more than plenty in a rebuild.

Yeah, why get paid to take on someones mistakes when you can pay THEM to take on their mistakes

 

[MMC]

Trouba had a very nice game tonight and looks like he’ll fit in great on this Ducks team and will be an awesome pair for all the young LHD we’re trying to develop and was acquired for pennies on the dollar. Meanwhile the Rangers just lost to the Blackhawks and random team fans are still crying about trade value

 

[Barnaby]

Rangers needed to dump the cap… shame as it would’ve been preferable to do in the offseason, but they couldn’t. Best deal they could’ve hoped for.

It makes sense for Anaheim. They’ll have him this year. They’ll trade him next deadline in 25-26 if they aren’t a playoff team and recoup assets.

Win-win.

Trouba isn’t worth that cap hit but Anaheim has plenty of room and his real dollar value at 6 million for 1.5 years is less than he’d get in an open market.

 

[Barnaby]

I’d far prefer having a 30 year old Trouba on a 1.5 year 6 million dollar deal (8 million AAV) over a 29 year old Zadorov getting 5 million a year until he’s 35-36 especially seeing as the Ducks aren’t a cap team.

Trouba is solid for what he is. The problem is that he isn’t an 8 million a year player. However, he does improve the Ducks defense and the term is short.

The deal was a no brainer for the Rangers considering their team / cap structure. However, it still makes sense for Anaheim. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him play solid hockey for the Ducks, then get dealt next deadline for a 2nd or something. Guys like Savard and Chiarot have brought back 1st rounders on expiring deals. Then we’ll be saying Verbeek “weaponized his cap space” without taking on a long term commitment.

 

[Gliff]

I’d far prefer having a 30 year old Trouba on a 1.5 year 6 million dollar deal (8 million AAV) over a 29 year old Zadorov getting 5 million a year until he’s 35-36 especially seeing as the Ducks aren’t a cap team.

Trouba is solid for what he is. The problem is that he isn’t an 8 million a year player. However, he does improve the Ducks defense and the term is short.

The deal was a no brainer for the Rangers considering their team / cap structure. However, it still makes sense for Anaheim. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him play solid hockey for the Ducks, then get dealt next deadline for a 2nd or something. Guys like Savard and Chiarot have brought back 1st rounders on expiring deals. Then we’ll be saying Verbeek “weaponized his cap space” without taking on a long term commitment.

This. Trouba isn't even an 8 mil player to the Ducks. They care more about cash then cap considering they have so much cap. He only makes 6 mil.

He is a perfect fit for what the Ducks are missing. He makes the Ducks harder to play against, clears the net, brings leadership.

This is just like when the Ducks acquired Gudas and everyone said it was insane. He was a perfect fit too.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I liked his game, he’ll be a good fit/ mentor compliment for our young dmen

 

[Fatass]

Trouba had a very nice game tonight and looks like he’ll fit in great on this Ducks team and will be an awesome pair for all the young LHD we’re trying to develop and was acquired for pennies on the dollar. Meanwhile the Rangers just lost to the Blackhawks and random team fans are still crying about trade value

Trouba is a heart and soul player. The Rangers, with this trade, were trying to change their culture. I’m not too sure ripping out a heart and soul guy will result in the change intended? Heck, I don’t know if they can even replace his minutes, let alone the “heart and soul” intangibles?

 

[TS Quint]

Why do people think the Ducks are so concerned about cap space? They are $21m from the cap. Probably not worried about it next year either. If they got a player they think can help their team for whatever reason it’s a win for them.

Rangers are a cap team they need to worry about effiecent contracts. The value proposition is completely different for each team. That’s why the trade makes sense.