Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

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lakeshirts37

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The Ducks play the Rags on March 28, 2025, if Trouba is not traded by than and he is playing for the Ducks, I really hope Trouba lays the f*** out of Panarin.
what did Panarin do to you?

Better and cheaper than Trouba and didn't have to pay a pick to get them
Guarantee Ducks can recoup that 4th rounder at the 2026 TDL
 

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Why did the ducks bail out the rangers for free??? This makes no sense you have to think the ducks would’ve at least made the rangers throw in a 2nd right?? Jake walman at 2M had to have a 2nd thrown in with him.
I guess they just wanted Trouba. The Ducks are a bit dysfunctional and maybe a veteran helps.

Also maybe a couple other teams would have taken him so it's not as much leverage as you might think
 
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Mattb124

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No. But much more so.
1.) eastern conference, playing teams in the metro would be much easier to drive and meet maybe what 10 times? That means a lot. It’s tough to fly 5 hours with a kid (even 2)

2.) time zones matter. I was out west for a week and the 3 hours change was hard to keep track of.

He’s an adult. He made his choice. It clearly wasn’t all about family, as he was closer to them and in the same time zone in clb or buffalo. If he took Buffalo, he would be in the same state.
If only some company in Silicon Valley could make a device that automatically adjusted for time zone changes. Sounds like a business opportunity.

The dude makes $8M a year. I think somehow he and the family will get by for 4 months.
 
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If only some company in Silicon Valley could make a device that automatically adjusted for time zone changes. Sounds like a business opportunity.

The dude makes $8M a year. I think somehow he and the family will get by for 4 months.

??? Who did that. If he wants to call and face time before work he gets up at like 4 am to speak at 7.

You realize that time zones exist right.

I literally did it for a week and it was a pain.

I m not saying he wont survive. I’m saying it obviously wasnt his number 1 priority as he turned down a much closer place
That plays 11 times this year in the metro (road games) over the next 4 months.

He will be fine for sure. He can make whatever decision he wants. But it’s not “everything for my family” because he moved 1000s of miles 3 time zones and a conference farther then he needed to
 
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Anaheim is a basement team.

There's degrees of basement teams. They've been flirting with .500 this year. Two years ago at this point they were around 10 games under. Last year about 5. So they're definitely trending up.

They're also doing it while having more youth in the lineup. Two years ago only Zegras and McTavish looked like long term pieces. Now 4 of their 6 dmen look like they're in the NHL to stay, Carlsson and Gauthier are in the mix, and Dostal looks like a legit starter.

Don't know what magical trades or signings you think they could have made to go from historically bad to becoming a playoff team in two years, but if you know then maybe you should be making big bucks running an NHL team.
 

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I didn’t say I feel bad for anyone. It’s just not a good look to do this twice. You don’t think players around the league take notice of these things? Who the hell would wanna play for Drury knowing he did this 2 times.
I suppose your right but players also see they wanna win. I mean it's NY they have a lot going for them not like they have problems attracting people (players) there.
 

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There's degrees of basement teams. They've been flirting with .500 this year. Two years ago at this point they were around 10 games under. Last year about 5. So they're definitely trending up.

They're also doing it while having more youth in the lineup. Two years ago only Zegras and McTavish looked like long term pieces. Now 4 of their 6 dmen look like they're in the NHL to stay, Carlsson and Gauthier are in the mix, and Dostal looks like a legit starter.

Don't know what magical trades or signings you think they could have made to go from historically bad to becoming a playoff team in two years, but if you know then maybe you should be making big bucks running an NHL team.
Yes, and anaheim is a certified hope for 1st overall basement team.

Outside of getting ridiculous goaltending, (which is unlikely to last) they have been the worst team in the league, and by a decent margin.

With the goaltending they have gotten so far, even a remotely competent roster should have you in the playoff convo (see Calgary, who's goaltending, while very good, has not been nearly as good as anaheims so far)

The only other teams with comparable goaltending are 1st and 2nd in the league respectively right now. Anaheim's skaters are so bad that they are, like I said, still in the basement

If Anaheim isn't limited by an internal budget, why the f*** is the GM not spending it.
If they are, why the f*** are they spending it on Jacob Trouba.

Taking cap on for guys with upside to be long term pieces makes some sense. Taking on declining cap dumps doesn't
 
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Gotta wonder what Drury is thinking here. Does he hate Trouba that much? And why would Trouba ok a trade to California, with wife and baby tied to NY for a year? Maybe the Ducks will flip him at the deadline with retention
 

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I guess they just wanted Trouba. The Ducks are a bit dysfunctional and maybe a veteran helps.

Also maybe a couple other teams would have taken him so it's not as much leverage as you might think
I would understand this if his cap hit was 4M but at 8M he should have negative value even if the team acquiring him has lots of cap space. For the rangers he holds a lot of negative value so every team interested should be able to push into a corner.
 

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I would understand this if his cap hit was 4M but at 8M he should have negative value even if the team acquiring him has lots of cap space. For the rangers he holds a lot of negative value so every team interested should be able to push into a corner.
But if another team would have taken him then maybe he doesn't have negative value, if value is based on what a team will pay

Also interestingly, his cap hit is 8 million but his salary for these two years is 6 million. The Ducks have loads of cap space so that has little value to them. Maybe they'd like the idea of a player who offers a savings in real dollars if reaching the cap floor is a goal
 

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Yes, and anaheim is a certified hope for 1st overall basement team.

Outside of getting ridiculous goaltending, (which is unlikely to last) they have been the worst team in the league, and by a decent margin.

Even if they are, doing it while leaning heavily on young players now is very different than where they were 2 years ago, when they were an awful team with very few future pieces playing.

I mean really, teams relying on so many young players almost always struggle to win. But they're also showing promise.

Or are you suggesting that they should just give up on their young D corps, and sell off their blue chip forward prospects because they're not winning at a playoff team rate as 19-21 year olds?
 

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Gotta wonder what Drury is thinking here. Does he hate Trouba that much? And why would Trouba ok a trade to California, with wife and baby tied to NY for a year? Maybe the Ducks will flip him at the deadline with retention
He OK'd the deal because he would have been waived. Going far away from his wife was probably more appealing than getting claimed by the Islanders

I wish they ALL could be California girls!!
 

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Even if they are, doing it while leaning heavily on young players now is very different than where they were 2 years ago, when they were an awful team with very few future pieces playing.

I mean really, teams relying on so many young players almost always struggle to win. But they're also showing promise.

Or are you suggesting that they should just give up on their young D corps, and sell off their blue chip forward prospects because they're not winning at a playoff team rate as 19-21 year olds?
They aren't really showing promise outside of this Dostal heater tho.

They have the worst results from skaters by any team in the league.

Not a single NHL regular winning their minutes.

Zegras and Mctavish having atrocious years.

Your power play looks incompetent (the place where all the future studs are).



A team getting this kind of goaltending (a goal per game advantage currently) should not be near the bottom of the standings.
 
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