Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

[The don godfather]

Anaheim paid 8 mill and a pick for the quality of player you can find for half of that money in UFA.

Case in point, Radko Gudas.

Let's see if I'm a betting man ducks got quality here large trouba ain't chicken feed material and basically got him for nothing . Anyways seems rags used trouba money and overpaid shest by at least 3.5 million from what I see. Drury should be canned.

 

[dgibb10]

Buddy the Ducks are a floor team. The cap is irrelevent to them.

If cap and money is irrelevant then why are they a floor team??

Clearly saving money matters or they'd have spent it.

If the cap and money wasn't relevant to them, you think they'd have acquired more than 0 free agents.

They had the opportunity to buy a bunch of better dman than trouba for less salary this offseason.

And now somehow they're being praised for taking on a bad contract and paying for the privledge.

Case in point of why adding Trouba at 8 mill is so stupid is literally on their roster in Gudas. You can find a guy like that for HALF of that, for free in UFA

Let's see if I'm a betting man ducks got quality here large trouba ain't chicken feed material and basically got him for nothing . Anyways seems rags used trouba money and overpaid shest by at least 3.5 million from what I see. Drury should be canned.

8 million dollars a year isn't nothing.

 

[Leafsfan74]

They threatened to put him on waivers to force him to waive his NTC. That's how ownership can work when they mean business. There are no friends in competitive sports.

The Leafs would never do this. The team is run like a government agency. It seems that all of Ontario is. I can't even imagine how the place would survive if it had to pay a tariff.

 

[JKG33]

It's hilarious reading these Trouba threads. Rags fans bragging about how their team didn't have to pay to unload him. Yet just a few hours prior were were saying how he's everything wrong with the team.

It's almost like he's not nearly as bad as they say, and maybe it's a little more than just 1 player that's the problem

 

[aufheben]

It's hilarious reading these Trouba threads. Rags fans bragging about how their team didn't have to pay to unload him. Yet just a few hours prior were were saying how he's everything wrong with the team.

It's almost like he's not nearly as bad as they say

Almost but not quite.

 

[JKG33]

They threatened to put him on waivers to force him to waive his NTC. That's how ownership can work when they mean business. There are no friends in competitive sports.

The Leafs would never do this. The team is run like a government agency. It seems that all of Ontario is. I can't even imagine how the place would survive if it had to pay a tariff.

These two teams are opposite sides of the dysfunctional coin. The Rags treat their players like shit, always chasing the next big cap hit hoping that'll lead them to a cup. Meanwhile the Leafs bend over backwards for their loser players, scared shitless of offending the overpaid 3 as if one of them would ever want to leave.

Two vastly different approaches, two very similar teams that won't win jack shit

 

[Ragdoll]

The cap hit is largely irrelevant to a cap floor team like Anaheim and teams in a similar situation, with the cap rising they may actually find it preferable to have a player with a higher cap hit than his actual salary. A non-cap-constrained team isn't looking at him like an 8m cap hit, they're looking at him as a 6m dman ... which these days isn't exorbitant, and the term isn't crazy.

If they move Fowler (who has a lower cap hit but higher actual salary), they end up raising their cap total to keep up with the rising floor, while reducing the money spent. They can also now move Fowler AND Dumoulin yet still have two veterans under contract for next year (Gudas and Trouba) to go with all those young dmen, instead of having to go shopping for one in the offseason. They weren't gonna go into next year with Gudas and five young dmen.

I know Anaheim has tons of cap space to play with but what about actually weaponizing it. Surely there has to be teams that would pay legitimate assets to get rid of players in similar positions as Trouba (Underperforming players with fairly large cap hits). Again, just a shot at general managers around this league cause it seems to be a fairly common thing.

 

[FiveTacos]

His AAV is 8 million, not 6.9 million.

The Ducks will be nowhere near the cap ceiling this year or next. So an AAV of 8m really doesn't matter. He makes less money than Fowler, so if they trade Cam they save actual money even if their cap total goes up a bit, but again that's largely irrelevant for them (except in helping them reach the cap floor more easily next year than if they just keep Fowler).

The Ducks don't need to worry about budgeting for the cap for several more years, at which time most of their biggest current salaries will be expired or expiring.

Vaak was a cap dump of 1.1 million hes useless.

I wouldn't say that. He's a serviceable 3rd pairing guy, and that's pretty much what his salary is in line with. He's nothing special, sure, but he can hold down an NHL spot in a non-embarrassing if mostly anonymous fashion.

 

[The don godfather]

The Ducks will be nowhere near the cap ceiling this year or next. So an AAV of 8m really doesn't matter. He makes less money than Fowler, so if they trade Cam they save actual money even if their cap total goes up a bit, but again that's largely irrelevant for them (except in helping them reach the cap floor more easily next year than if they just keep Fowler).

The Ducks don't need to worry about budgeting for the cap for several more years, at which time most of their biggest current salaries will be expired or expiring.



I wouldn't say that. He's a serviceable 3rd pairing guy, and that's pretty much what his salary is in line with. He's nothing special, sure, but he can hold down an NHL spot in a non-embarrassing if mostly anonymous fashion.

I've seen this guy and you wont find him its that bad.

 

[Leafsfan74]

These two teams are opposite sides of the dysfunctional coin. The Rags treat their players like shit, always chasing the next big cap hit hoping that'll lead them to a cup. Meanwhile the Leafs bend over backwards for their loser players, scared shitless of offending the overpaid 3 as if one of them would ever want to leave.

Two vastly different approaches, two very similar teams that won't win jack shit

Sadly accurate,

 

[aufheben]

These two teams are opposite sides of the dysfunctional coin. The Rags treat their players like shit, always chasing the next big cap hit hoping that'll lead them to a cup. Meanwhile the Leafs bend over backwards for their loser players, scared shitless of offending the overpaid 3 as if one of them would ever want to leave.

Two vastly different approaches, two very similar teams that won't win jack shit

The Rangers have been a lot closer to a Cup during the last decade than the Leafs have. They’ve won the most you can without a championship to show for it. Unfortunately for them Florida has hockey teams. It’s still been fun though.

 

[dgibb10]

The Ducks will be nowhere near the cap ceiling this year or next. So an AAV of 8m really doesn't matter. He makes less money than Fowler, so if they trade Cam they save actual money even if their cap total goes up a bit, but again that's largely irrelevant for them (except in helping them reach the cap floor more easily next year than if they just keep Fowler).

The Ducks don't need to worry about budgeting for the cap for several more years, at which time most of their biggest current salaries will be expired or expiring.



I wouldn't say that. He's a serviceable 3rd pairing guy, and that's pretty much what his salary is in line with. He's nothing special, sure, but he can hold down an NHL spot in a non-embarrassing if mostly anonymous fashion.

Cool.

If money doesn't matter why didn't the Ducks get a single player in UFA?

They had the opportunity this past offseason to get a number of better dman for less than 8 mill without giving up a pick (or you can lower the term and up the AAV like the Canes did with Orlov if you want).

Case in point is literally on their roster in Radko Gudas, who they were able to acquire, for free, for half of trouba's cap hit.

Justifying bad teams using their money poorly by pretending money doesn't matter is a weak argument. If anything teams with a lower budget should be MORE criticized for wasting those resources.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Based Drury. I love this message.

Play well or f*** off.

 

[MMC]

I know Anaheim has tons of cap space to play with but what about actually weaponizing it. Surely there has to be teams that would pay legitimate assets to get rid of players in similar positions as Trouba (Underperforming players with fairly large cap hits). Again, just a shot at general managers around this league cause it seems to be a fairly common thing.

This concept may be entirely foreign to you but one way a team can “weaponize” their cap space is by bringing in players who can help them

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Len Barrie when he owned Tampa did the same thing to Dan Boyle. It was either get traded to San Jose or placed on waivers where he'd likely become an Atlanta Thrasher.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

If anyone in here wants to have words about Trouba's wife, say them now. But also post your location, as I will fight you.

My wife is going through the med-school/residency/fellowship pipeline right now, and it's more important than Trouba's career will ever be.

I just don't see why anyone would give a shit either way about his wife.

She can afford to fly out to see him in United Polaris as often as she wants.

Boo f***ing hoo.

 

[Avs2022]

He can just retire. Best solution for literally everyone except him.

His wife can find a job as a doctor in California. So who cares.

 

[TheNumber4]

Why wasnt the Cap irrelevent to the Ducks when we were trying to pay you to take on Campbell!? Now all of a sudden the cap is irrelevant?!

 

[JKG33]

The Rangers have been a lot closer to a Cup during the last decade than the Leafs have. They’ve won the most you can without a championship to show for it. Unfortunately for them Florida has hockey teams.

Unfortunately for the Rags, this is neither horseshoes nor handgrenades

 

[dgibb10]

This concept may be entirely foreign to you but one way a team can “weaponize” their cap space is by bringing in players who can help them

If only there was a cool thing the NHL every year does where teams can acquire players by giving them money.

Surely the Ducks participated in this yearly event and acquired a player in it this past year.

 

[Irishguy42]

I just don't see why anyone would give a shit either way about his wife.

She can afford to fly out to see him in United Polaris as often as she wants.

Boo f***ing hoo.

I think you will be surprised the amount of shit she has gotten on social media.

 

[aufheben]

Unfortunately for the Rags, this is neither horseshoes nor handgrenades

Describing them as shit that will never win is kind of a dumb thing to say when you look at the last decade—or just last season. And I’m not even counting 2011-12.

As far as I know the Leafs haven’t done anything noteworthy.

 

[MMC]

If only there was a cool thing the NHL every year does where teams can acquire players by giving them money.

Surely the Ducks participated in this yearly event and acquired a player in it this past year.

I would much prefer having Trouba at 8x1.5 (contract being done when the Ducks might be pressed for space) than having Stamkos, Marchessault, or Montour (players the Ducks pursued in UFA) at whatever number we’d have had to offer to pull them from their current teams at 4+ years

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Verbeek comes across as kind of a moron

 

[Jussi]

Brave Scalewoman head to Manhattan.