Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

[Jared Dunn]

Unless his game completely plummets Ducks will probably get a 2nd for him @50% next year but I really can't believe this guy has even this value at 8 million

Anaheim aiming for the dirtiest right side in league history

 

[Jared Dunn]

Yes. The market. For example Jake Walman, better defenceman than Trouba. Griersy gets a 2nd to take on 2Mish. Trouba blows and is 8M(!).

Can’t confirm any of this unless the GMs start talking. But here’s what I think happened. There were like 3 or 4 teams interested in Trouba but they all assumed NYR would be screwed with the 8M cap and would need to put him on waivers and hopefully someone takes him for free. Drury convinced Verbeek there was huge interest and he would need to jump the line to get Trouba. Verbeek got played and overpaid.

The same team that paid a 2nd to take on Walman got paid a 3rd to trade a worse defenceman in Maatta. The market doesn't just hold a hard line forever, and I'm pretty sure the discussion in the offseason around him to Detroit was for positive value iirc. Not saying it was a good trade but fairly inconsequential at worst for a team like Anaheim

 

[Charlie Conway]

Im some sick world there is a point in time where Anaheim has

Gudas Solberg and Trouba in the same D core.


Vaaks has been very solid in spot duty..... just too much young dmen in anaheim for him to ever keep a spot in the roster.

That's pretty much what we need, and there's probably a spot open because I'm sure Drury needs we need some kind of upgrade on the left side.

Lindgren is good for an injury or two each year, and we need a d-man who can step in here or there, so if Vaaks can play both sides, that's a plus for us. Ruhwedel never showed much in his spots.

Hopefully this helps Miller reset, too, because our left side is pretty rough otherwise.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

That's the reason he vetoed a trade to Detroit earlier this year

What're the ramifications of not reporting to your trade destination?

Contract termination.

 

[Tob]

w T

 

[TheNumber4]

The same team that paid a 2nd to take on Walman got paid a 3rd to trade a worse defenceman in Maatta. The market doesn't just hold a hard line forever, and I'm pretty sure the discussion in the offseason around him to Detroit was for positive value iirc. Not saying it was a good trade but fairly inconsequential at worst for a team like Anaheim

That deal and similar deals happened less than 4 months ago. They should be indicative of the market still.

Anaheim can say it doesn’t hurt them and they are right. And they can say they can afford it and they are right. But when rating whether this is a good or bad deal, none of that really matters.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Well don't be surprised when Anaheim trades him for 50% at the deadline and gets more from him.

Top 4 RD are needed.
(Yes I do believe he is still a middle pair D)

 

[Jared Dunn]

That deal and similar deals happened less than 4 months ago. They should be indicative of the market still.

Anaheim can say it doesn’t hurt them and they are right. And they can say they can afford it and they are right. But when rating whether this is a good or bad deal, none of that really matters.

Again like I said the exact same team got wildly different value for different defencemen in an even shorter timespan so I think it's been proven more or less that it's not indicative of the market. If anything the more recent trade of Maatta is indicative of where the market has shifted

 

[The don godfather]

So basically lose a decent overpaid dman and overpay for a franchise goalie. I actually think the rags got weaker with these moves.

 

[Antropovsky]

Did Drury think that he'd have received a lesser offer if he signed Shesterkin before moving Trouba because teams would know he needs to make a move? Kinda the Ullmark situation in Boston?

 

[Gillings]

Absolutely moronic to pay to take on Troubas entire contract. How do these people become GMs

Awe, You watched to much Care Bears as a kid? These Wealthy people don't give a F about their fellow man.

 

[MMC]

 

[Irishguy42]

If anyone in here wants to have words about Trouba's wife, say them now. But also post your location, as I will fight you.

My wife is going through the med-school/residency/fellowship pipeline right now, and it's more important than Trouba's career will ever be.

 

[TheNumber4]

Again like I said the exact same team got wildly different value for different defencemen in an even shorter timespan so I think it's been proven more or less that it's not indicative of the market. If anything the more recent trade of Maatta is indicative of where the market has shifted

I think we are seeing a transition from dead cap era to high growth in cap era. So there’s more variance lately. But cap dump values were very well established not less than 1-2 years.

You bring up Maatta but he’s playing Top pair in Utah and I think Utah were in a RHD crunch. There’s other deals too, Ceci cup along with Walman dump. There’s variance there, but nothing of the sort to make the Trouba deal (8M!, 3rd pair) make sense. Not to me anyways.

 

[Jared Dunn]

I think we are seeing a transition from dead cap era to high growth in cap era. So there’s more variance lately. But cap dump values were very well established not less than 1-2 years.

You bring up Maatta but he’s playing Top pair in Utah and I think Utah were in a RHD crunch. There’s other deals too, Ceci cup along with Walman dump. There’s variance there, but nothing of the sort to make the Trouba deal (8M!, 3rd pair) make sense. Not to me anyways.

I just think there's more reverence for Trouba among the old school hockey guys than there is among fans

 

[irishsetter13]

I think I would rather be in Anahein than Detroit in December .

Maybe the Trouba family does too. Do they have teaching hospitals in Southern California? If so, maybe there's hope for her medical career and his hockey guaranteed contract -- errr, "career" -- too

Just make sure your health insurance is paid up before you defeat the Ducks with Thing 1 (Gudas) and Thing 2 (Trouba). They might not beat you on the scoreboard, but they'll beat your brains in and knock your teeth out.

Yes they have a ton of school hospitals in SoCal. UC Irvine Medical Center is like 3 miles from the Arena. Jacobs Medical Center is about an hour and a half away. And there are about 10 teaching Hospitals in LA about an hour away (USC, UCLA, Cedars-Sinai, etc.) And all of these have multiple campuses.

 

[Viqsi]

Trouba vetos a trade to Detroit only to end up in Anaheim instead. He can’t be happy about that at all.

 

[TheNumber4]

I just think there's more reverence for Trouba among the old school hockey guys than there is among fans

For sure. Which is a recipe for an overpay if they enamored with his big hits and ignoring his obvious flaws in general defending and ability to move the puck.

 

[Ragdoll]

How exactly is Anaheim supposed to "squeeze" NY when there were reportedly offers from Columbus, Detroit and Ottawa on the table?

Trouba at 8M for 1.5 seasons is a positive value asset. Big 30yo right shot D who can play 20+ minutes and hit like Trouba don't grow on trees.

Because he's played like crap? There's a reason why New York was trying to move on from their CAPTAIN. Even at the top of his game, it could be argued that he isn't worth 8m.

This wasn't necessarily a shot specifically at Anaheim but at NHL gms. Why was there a "bidding war" for a player that isn't playing well and has a cap hit of 8m for 1.5 seasons? New York not having to pay any assets or retain salary is nothing short of a miracle in my eyes.

 

[ole ole]

I'm assuming the Finn sucks and he's just a warm body? So essentially some sort of pick and that guy for Trouba. No retention or anything?

If so, seems like Trouba had value around the NHL.

Fans continue to not believe that NHL teams value players like Trouba more than they do.

Value? A warm body and a 4th rd pick does not = value.
The Rangers come out of this smelling like roses even though they got nothing in return.. They dumped that contract [No retention] without giving up anything. Well done.

My question is what the hell are the Ducks thinking?

 

[Breakers]

anaheim thought they could buy a pick with Klingberg.......... how'd that work out

even at 50% retention i wouldnt be so sure he is going to get a 2nd.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Hence why I don’t get any team wanting to trade for him - getting a player that will be unhappy and will not want to play for this org

He agreed to go there

 

[Canucks LB]

I still don’t understand how some people thought you would have to pay to get off that contract.

Trouba is a good hockey player, no matter what Rangers fans tell you, his situation got extremely toxic, which obviously affected his play.

He’s one of the biggest hitters in the league, and I’m 100% sure he’s gonna do fantastic in Anaheim.

I’m not surprised whatsoever

 

[MMC]

Lot of people talking in this thread about him potentially being flipped and while a lot can still happen in the next year and a half, our GM made it clear he sees him as a long term piece here, and Trouba also said he's interested in being here long term. So him being flipped isn't super likely as it stands

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

That's pretty much what we need, and there's probably a spot open because I'm sure Drury needs we need some kind of upgrade on the left side.

Lindgren is good for an injury or two each year, and we need a d-man who can step in here or there, so if Vaaks can play both sides, that's a plus for us. Ruhwedel never showed much in his spots.

Hopefully this helps Miller reset, too, because our left side is pretty rough otherwise.

I dont recall Vaaks ever really playing both sides (zellweger and Lacombe were kinda the ones that did that).... but regardless i dont think he is some throw in roster spot player... i imagine hell see ice in New york, and i think the fans will be pleasantly surprised. He just needs a place where he can get ice time.