Looks like they may not need to keep $1.5M in space for Kase’e potential return:
So that would mean the over $10M in LTIR space is real.
Unless ROR costs a Domi like deal, im not interested. He looks really slow out there and ineffective. Its great he is good at FOs but there isnt much else he is good at right now. And he is coming off an injury. Big red flags for me.
You’re no Boom Boom Wet Blanket though
You’re no Boom Boom Wet Blanket though
You’re no Boom Boom Wet Blanket though
Yep.I have not historically been a big game hunter, but the more it’s been discussed, the more I’m convinced paying the price for Meier is exactly what the Canes need to do.
Yep.
The cost will be high, but its something we can absorb without impacting the current makeup of the roster while being able to fit him in long term, and is the kind of player who checks off the majority of boxes of what we need going forward to push us over the top. We absolutely should do this, and I'm going to be really annoyed if he is traded for relative cost of what we're already talking about here.
It seems odd that the front office wouldn't be in on him considering their pursuit of both Eichel and Tkachuk. I guess we will see by the first week of March what they do. I will be less upset this time if they just decide he isn't the right piece and go another route, then if they do decide he is, but again underbid the market.I have not historically been a big game hunter, but the more it’s been discussed, the more I’m convinced paying the price for Meier is exactly what the Canes need to do.
I agree with all of that but one glaring exception. How is an overpriced 4th liner on an 8 year contract even close to a core piece that can't be moved for a 1st line player?Same, but I think we will be outbid.
When you see the reports that he’ll go for a 1st and an A prospect or 2 B prospects or whatever, we get all excited like “we can do that without cutting into the roster!”
But our 1st is one of the worst 1sts they can get. Nikishin and/or Morrow are some of the lowest end “A” prospects you can get (if you’d even call them “As”, they’re “As for us I suppose). Just saying “we can pay that price” to that vague report of what it’ll cost doesn’t mean much when several other teams are trying to make that trade too. We’ll have to do something that’ll hurt. I’d consider Jarvis for the right price but that would hurt, big time. I’m not opposed to doing it by volume - our 1st, Nikishin, Morrow, Drury, a 2nd, whatever, have it all. That’d be my preference over trading either Jarvis or KK but who knows. If it takes the roster player to get it done, we gotta at least consider it.
I agree with all of that but one glaring exception. How is an overpriced 4th liner on an 8 year contract even close to a core piece that can't be moved for a 1st line player?
Must be some tasty kool-aid.
Player evaluation is a lot different with the lower number of players playing in a game and then the greater impact of one player.Amazing contrast between the NBA and NHL due to cap approach (NBA is more flexible). NBA has seen top stars move the last couple of days whereby the NHL will be a series of smaller deals, save Meier.
I read that it would be your preference to not move KK over the futures in the package for Meier, but you'd consider it.Is that what you read in my post? Maybe read it again without confirmation bias?
I read that it would be your preference to not move KK over the futures in the package for Meier, but you'd consider it.
I'd throw him in the front of the package so fast he wouldn't need a plane ticket to get to San Jose. That's what I read.
Lol. Wrong again. I'm CLEARLY saying it.Ok, so neither of us are saying anything that would warrant the response "How is an overpriced 4th liner on an 8 year contract even close to a core piece that can't be moved for a 1st line player?", good to clear that up .
I asked this hypothetical question a couple days ago: what would you give up for Saros if he became available? I think there were 2 responses basically ruling it out of hand and a lot of crickets.
It would be out of left field, but if he did become available (I don't think he will) it would seem like a potential Borg 3-d chess move. I mean, how many here are comfortable with Andersen staying healthy throughout the playoffs? And if not, who's comfortable with a Raanta/Kooch repeat like last year? On the flip side, imagine a healthy Andersen / Saros in net along with the mid tier forward and D additions we're probably going to get at the deadline anyways?
It would also answer the question of who is going to be our 1A alongside Kooch next year.
Someone pointed out that another goalie isn't a need. True, but could Saros be an opportunity, both for this playoff and the next 2 seasons beyond?
Coming back down to earth, a) I don't think he'll be available and b) Saros has to be considered at least a top 5 league wide goalie, and I don't think he'd be all that cheap.
It really depends on what SJ wants.I read that it would be your preference to not move KK over the futures in the package for Meier, but you'd consider it.
I'd throw him in the front of the package so fast he wouldn't need a plane ticket to get to San Jose. That's what I read.
Lol. Wrong again. I'm CLEARLY saying it.
A few minor disagreements...Same, but I think we will be outbid.
When you see the reports that he’ll go for a 1st and an A prospect or 2 B prospects or whatever, we get all excited like “we can do that without cutting into the roster!”
But our 1st is one of the worst 1sts they can get. Nikishin and/or Morrow are some of the lowest end “A” prospects you can get (if you’d even call them “As”, they’re “As for us I suppose). Just saying “we can pay that price” to that vague report of what it’ll cost doesn’t mean much when several other teams are trying to make that trade too. We’ll have to do something that’ll hurt. I’d consider Jarvis for the right price but that would hurt, big time. I’m not opposed to doing it by volume - our 1st, Nikishin, Morrow, Drury, a 2nd, whatever, have it all. That’d be my preference over trading either Jarvis or KK but who knows. If it takes the roster player to get it done, we gotta at least consider it.