Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

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Gm0ney

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I'm thinking the Jets will be buying out Nate Schmidt at the end of the season.

Going off of memory, they tried to trade him during the off-season and there were not takers.

At his 6 million dollar salary they can replace him for cheaper, even when taking into consideration the buyout.
Retained at 50% his salary would only be $2.425M next year, with a cap hit of 2.975M. Might be pretty tradeable at that price. Makes more sense to try that for whatever return (late round pick, even futures) because it saves more money and cap hit in the long run.
 
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I'm thinking the Jets will be buying out Nate Schmidt at the end of the season.

Going off of memory, they tried to trade him during the off-season and there were not takers.

At his 6 million dollar salary they can replace him for cheaper, even when taking into consideration the buyout.
I think it probably depends on what happens with Demelo and Dillon

If Demelo and Dillon don't extend, you're opening one hole on the left side and two holes on the right side by buying Schmidt out

That's a really good way to end up with Stanley in the line up every night, in addition to breaking in Heinola. You' be looking at

Morrissey Pionk
Samberg Heinola
Stanley XXX

Chevy has some work to do on the back end this summer. He'll have to walk a fine line between extending guys and overpaying term/cap because he's in a bit of a pickle. Pionk comes up the next year too
 
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Early this season I would have predicted that the Jets would have to buy Schmidt out. But he's had a solid season, and he's well-regarded as a good vibes guy. So I think they might be able to trade him with retention to a young team with cap space that wants a vet that they could also flip at next trade deadline. One advantage is that Schmidt's actual salary is less than his cap hit, so if the Jets retained 50% his actual salary would be around 2.4M.
 

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I think it probably depends on what happens with Demelo and Dillon

If Demelo and Dillon don't extend, you're opening one hole on the left side and two holes on the right side by buying Schmidt out

That's a really good way to end up with Stanley in the line up every night, in addition to breaking in Heinola. You' be looking at

Morrissey Pionk
Samberg Heinola
Stanley XXX

Chevy has some work to do on the back end this summer. He'll have to walk a fine line between extending guys and overpaying term/cap because he's in a bit of a pickle. Pionk comes up the next year too
There is also the possibility Miller likes it in Winnipeg and ends up sticking around. The mid range guys who can't command the big salaries, tend to like and stay in Winnipeg. Especially if they have bounced around a bit.
 

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There is also the possibility Miller likes it in Winnipeg and ends up sticking around. The mid range guys who can't command the big salaries, tend to like and stay in Winnipeg. Especially if they have bounced around a bit.
We also have Capobianco who's been fabulous for the Moose this year. We have some team ownership left on him.
 

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I think it probably depends on what happens with Demelo and Dillon

If Demelo and Dillon don't extend, you're opening one hole on the left side and two holes on the right side by buying Schmidt out

That's a really good way to end up with Stanley in the line up every night, in addition to breaking in Heinola. You' be looking at

Morrissey Pionk
Samberg Heinola
Stanley XXX

Chevy has some work to do on the back end this summer. He'll have to walk a fine line between extending guys and overpaying term/cap because he's in a bit of a pickle. Pionk comes up the next year too
I think the defense is pretty easy to sort out, as we probably don't have to worry about Perfetti's long-term extension kicking in just yet. The only crucial piece we need to keep is DeMelo, and we should have the cap space to overpay him if needed. The rest of the RFAs and UFAs are pretty much inconsequential and can all be let go / replaced by other options. Might want to keep Heinola around, if he's open to giving the org another go, but the rest aren't needed.

What happens if DeMelo wants to explore other options, I don't know. It'll probably include a metric f***ton of pain, because that right side is terrible without him.
 

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I'd offer Miller another year at 1.6m depending on what happens on the D but he is one of the later signings.
I'd go hard after Andersson or Larsson or someone of that ilk.

There will be some hard decisions next year on whom to waive on both the forward and D corps.
 

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I think the defense is pretty easy to sort out, as we probably don't have to worry about Perfetti's long-term extension kicking in just yet. The only crucial piece we need to keep is DeMelo, and we should have the cap space to overpay him if needed. The rest of the RFAs and UFAs are pretty much inconsequential and can all be let go / replaced by other options. Might want to keep Heinola around, if he's open to giving the org another go, but the rest aren't needed.

What happens if DeMelo wants to explore other options, I don't know. It'll probably include a metric f***ton of pain, because that right side is terrible without him.
Will be interesting to see if Heinola ever gets a chance and how he does.
 

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There is also the possibility Miller likes it in Winnipeg and ends up sticking around. The mid range guys who can't command the big salaries, tend to like and stay in Winnipeg. Especially if they have bounced around a bit.
Chevy gets lots of praise for grinding trades and contracts, but he also isn't cheap. It seems like the contracts he gets done are good value for the team but also fair to the player

I think some of the guys who you're talking about have been around the league and value things like how the org treats them, etc at that stage of their carreer. Hopefully all the deadline guys that chevy picked up enjoy their time here and would be open to staying if the term/cap could work for everyone and there's a good fit
 

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the only deadline guy id be interested in keeping is Toffoli so far. Monahan hasn't really moved the needle in the top-6, and Miller is tbd he's played 2 games.
Monahan transformed our powerplay... is scoring at a 50pt season pace and plays pk

I mean what more are we asking for
 

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Monahan transformed our powerplay... is scoring at a 50pt season pace and plays pk

I mean what more are we asking for
Monahan has 3 powerplay points in 18 games and they all came in a 2 game stretch with Vilardi assisting on all of them. Meanwhile in 8 straight powerplay goals Vilardi had 4 goals and 4 assists. Monahan didn't transform our powerplay, Vilardi did.
 

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Monahan transformed our powerplay... is scoring at a 50pt season pace and plays pk

I mean what more are we asking for
i think the Jets PP has been more to do w/ puck movement that was lacking in the first half of the year. our 2nd line really hasn't produced at a high rate w/ him at C compared to pre-Monahan.

edit: he still has another 15 games and minimum of one PO round here before deciding, and ultimately depends on what he wants for $$$ and term or alternatives out there.
 
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Monahan has 3 powerplay points in 18 games and they all came in a 2 game stretch with Vilardi assisting on all of them. Meanwhile in 8 straight powerplay goals Vilardi had 4 goals and 4 assists. Monahan didn't transform our powerplay, Vilardi did.
100%
If Volare gets healthy for the playoffs, our PP should be on fire.
We have plenty of talent to have 2 great powerplay units.
The PP could be of great use against a team like the Avs that have beefed up for the playoffs.
If they take a penalty, make them pay.

JMo Volare Scheif KFC Toffoli
Miller Nino Ehlers Perfetti Monahan

edit: he still has another 15 games and minimum of one PO round here before deciding, and ultimately depends on what he wants for $$$ and term or alternatives out there.
If everything goes okay, I'd Monahan him 10m over 3 years but I agree that Tof might be the player to extend.
 
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I'd offer Miller another year at 1.6m depending on what happens on the D but he is one of the later signings.
I'd go hard after Andersson or Larsson or someone of that ilk.

There will be some hard decisions next year on whom to waive on both the forward and D corps.

Yeah Miller definitely seems like a guy worth hanging on to. A lot of indicators he is a solid 2nd pair guy that doesn't get paid that way... very similar to DeMelo when he came over from Ottawa
 
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Monahan has 3 powerplay points in 18 games and they all came in a 2 game stretch with Vilardi assisting on all of them. Meanwhile in 8 straight powerplay goals Vilardi had 4 goals and 4 assists. Monahan didn't transform our powerplay, Vilardi did.
Classic example of statwatching

One of the reasons Vilardi excelled on the PP aftet Monahan's arrival is because we finally had a legit threat in the bumper. Teams could no longer cheat low, which opened up vilardi to do what he does

Not every valuable play ends up on the socresheet or naturalstattrick
 

Atoyot

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Classic example of statwatching

One of the reasons Vilardi excelled on the PP aftet Monahan's arrival is because we finally had a legit threat in the bumper. Teams could no longer cheat low, which opened up vilardi to do what he does

Not every valuable play ends up on the socresheet or naturalstattrick
You're right, the guy that's not putting up any points on the powerplay is the reason it was doing well, not the guy that was scoring or setting up every goal, and the powerplay going straight back to shit after Vilardi got injured is entirely coincidental.
 

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You're right, the guy that's not putting up any points on the powerplay is the reason it was doing well, not the guy that was scoring or setting up every goal, and the powerplay going straight back to shit after Vilardi got injured is entirely coincidental.
we've hardly had any powerplays recently and we need them both, vilardi is good at setting people up while monahan is a big part of the reason the passing lanes started opening up allowing him to set up goals
 
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Buffdog

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You're right, the guy that's not putting up any points on the powerplay is the reason it was doing well, not the guy that was scoring or setting up every goal, and the powerplay going straight back to shit after Vilardi got injured is entirely coincidental.
Maybe it was the combo of the two of them, which is my point but apparently sailed way over your head
 

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I feel fairly confident Monahan will be with the team next year. We need a centre, he fits our needs and he'll be cheap.

For next season:

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Monahan - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Barron - Namestnikov - Iafallo

Gustafsson
Kupari

Morrissey - Demlo (re-signed)
Samberg - Pionk
Heniola - Defensive D (Schmidt is bought out or traded)
Stanley

Helle
Comrie

This will fit under the cap.
 

MelikeJets

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I feel fairly confident Monahan will be with the team next year. We need a centre, he fits our needs and he'll be cheap.

For next season:

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Monahan - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Barron - Namestnikov - Iafallo

Gustafsson
Kupari

Morrissey - Demlo (re-signed)
Samberg - Pionk
Heniola - Defensive D (Schmidt is bought out or traded)
Stanley

Helle
Comrie

This will fit under the cap.
Not sure he'll be "cheap". But I believe Jets will sign him.
 

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You're right, the guy that's not putting up any points on the powerplay is the reason it was doing well, not the guy that was scoring or setting up every goal, and the powerplay going straight back to shit after Vilardi got injured is entirely coincidental.
Oir pp went straight back to shit?

It's looked pretty good to me
 
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