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Tnuoc Alucard

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Beech

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PoutineSp00nZ said:
Do you really think that people don't know this shit isn't good for you?

Ever consider the possibility that groceries are expensive as f*** for a lot of people, and they cant afford to feed their family organic tomatos, free range chicken and Italian olive oil?

They buy rice, pasta and ground beef when they have time to cook and giant tiger lasagna or kraft dinner and hot dogs when they don't.

Easy to say eat healthy nutritious food when you have a job you love that doesnt leave you exhausted and burnt at the end of the day and you have the money to afford it. You can buy a massive processed lasagna for 12 bucks on sale, it costs at least 40 to make it from scratch and takes am hour or 2 to prepare before you throw it in the oven.

Nutrition is more and more a luxury for those who can afford it. If you've got 5 bucks cause rent is due, youre not buying a f***ing avacodo or two amd apreading it on freshly baked rye, youre buying a bag of ruffles to pack in as many calories as you can. Actually you're probably grabbing dollarama brand sour cream and onion, cause you can get a giant bag for a twonie.

Pretentious bullshit right here. Get off the golf course and go talk to a homeless person, or someone on disability living in a bed bug infested rooming house that costs all but 100 bucks of their cheque so they have no choice but to eat at drop ins and shelters. Get their 2 cents on the matter.

Sugar in ketchup... f*** off with that shit.
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Well put, but the argument is not about the socio-economic impact., but more about the basic science and basic information.

The reality is, Way more people are unaware of what is good for them or not.

Joe average person, will look at Ketchup, see tomato and say; healthy. He will look at a Big Mac, see; bread, beef, vegetables, sauce that is mayonnaise (derived from egg and milk) and say healthy. He will look at fries and see potatoes and say healthy.

And so issue 1 is; education on quality of food. To make sure people understand potato chips are not healthy.

My wife died of ovarian cancer. Lived on a steady diet of white bread. Toasted to bring out acrylamides. Lathered condiments, added cold cuts.. a side of potato chips and washed it down with a coke/Pepsi/7-up.

She and I did not know. Certainly pre Internet and pre 2000 or so, when much info began to circulate.

we saw white bread and did not understand refined carbs. Processed meat and did not understand the 100 issues. Condiments and their issues. Potato chips, Acrylamids!!!! soda and sugar and acid.

Plain and simply, she ate her way to ovarian cancer.

If I was to spit out every big mac I have eaten, I would fill a warehouse... Cancer at $5:99 for a combo.


Now as for socio-economic issues. Yes, mouths to feed and avocados do not cross. A $1.49 no-name bag of all dressed chips and a $1.49 compliments C-up, 2 L bottle, feeds.

But tragically, ill health, does not see paychecks, it sees carcinogens and other things, going into you.

And so all people, regardless of their position on life's economic rung, must make every effort to live healthy. Must learn to watch themselves as best as they can. be educated, be smart.

Otherwise, if you like, I can send you pictures of her on her death bed and you will never sleep properly again.
 
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CHAPTER 13
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Document 36

James Madison, Virginia Ratifying Convention

20 June 1788
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I have observed, that gentlemen suppose, that the general legislature will do every mischief they possibly can, and that they will omit to do every thing good which they are authorised to do. If this were a reasonable supposition, their objections would be good. I consider it reasonable to conclude, that they will as readily do their duty, as deviate from it: Nor do I go on the grounds mentioned by gentlemen on the other side--that we are to place unlimited confidence in them, and expect nothing but the most exalted integrity and sublime virtue. But I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks--no form of government can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea. If there be sufficient virtue and intelligence in the community, it will be exercised in the selection of these men. So that we do not depend on their virtue, or put confidence in our rulers, but in the people who are to choose them.

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The Founders' Constitution
Volume 1, Chapter 13, Document 36
The University of Chicago Press

The Papers of James Madison. Edited by William T. Hutchinson et al. Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press, 1962--77 (vols. 1--10); Charlottesville: University Press of Virginia, 1977--(vols. 11--).

fascinating place the USA.. Incredible wisdom from a man who was a slave owner and brought slaves with him to the Whitehouse. Unreal!!!
 
Beech

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Tnuoc Alucard said:
Than that my friend.

Whatever turns your crank…. Still am not Who you think I am, and only have ever had one account
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Tnuoc,

You haven't figured it out???? There are only two of us on here, You and me with about 200 different accounts that I control.

I just cannot figure out, why as a MOD, I delete my own posts.
 
jbeck5

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Stylizer1 said:
I don't know if you are trying to feed a family of 4 or were just looking to argue about something bigger but I just showed you how you could make lasagna at half the price you think it is to make.

I grew up less fortunate so I know the value of a deflated dollar more than most. I don't need anecdotal arguments on reality. Like I said it's up to you if you want to eat healthier. That doesn't mean %100 organic it means less synthetic. It's a learning process that you only get better at if you really try. If not, stick with your Kraft dinner & hotdogs.

Golf course or not he was not wrong. You chose to infer a whole lot of other meanings into it to justify a position way more complex than the ideas being presented.
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I just wanted to second your statement that you can eat a well balanced meal for much cheaper than people make it seem.

Me and my gf spend $700 a month on food.

That's 3 meals times 30 days times 2 people...plus snacking.

3x30x2= 180 meal servings

$700/180= $3.88 per meal...but it's actually less because we snack too.

So whoever said McDonald's is cheaper is wrong.
 
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jbeck5 said:
I just wanted to second your statement that you can eat a well balanced meal for much cheaper than people make it seem.

Me and my gf spend $700 a month on food.

That's 3 meals times 30 days times 2 people...plus snacking.

3x30x2= 180 meal servings

$700/180= $3.88 per meal...but it's actually less because we snack too.

So whoever said McDonald's is cheaper is wrong.
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$700 is a lot. I probably spend around $300 for 3 people a month. If I could afford organic meat direct from the farmer I would be buying from them exclusively, but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money. I look at flyers every week and base everything around what meats are for sale. I try to stay away from No Frills, Fresh Co, and Food Basics when it comes to buying meat because they sell very low grades of meat in general but will buy dry goods from there. I know people think Farmboy is too expensive but if you watch the prices you can get thing for great prices there too. Their reduced rack for vegetables is a perfectly fine option if you plan on making things sooner than later. In general I try to buy meat when it's around $1-1.50 a portion per meal seeing as we are 3 adults. 1 pork tenderloin at around $3.75 comes in around $1.25 per person. 2 weeks ago I bought a 15 pack of drumstick from Farmboy for $7.80 each. I bought 3 packs. 2-3 drumsticks per person at ￠.52 each. These are the times you buy more, portion them out and have back ups in the freezer when the sales suck or nothing is on sale. When ground beef goes on sale for around $4/lbs I buy 4-6 depending on how it's packaged. (usually 2-3 pound packs). Only buying things when they are on sale leaves you with extra money for the higher priced things that go on sale like Fish, Chicken breasts, Stewing beef, Ribs, etc.

I also have a garden where I grow things so throughout the summer and fall that cuts down on what I have to buy, not a lot but it helps.

McDonalds is never the cheaper option, its the convenient option.

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Thanks for the reminder to block you
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Cause that's what men do.
 
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$700 is a lot. I probably spend around $300 for 3 people a month. If I could afford organic meat direct from the farmer I would be buying from them exclusively, but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money. I look at flyers every week and base everything around what meats are for sale. I try to stay away from No Frills, Fresh Co, and Food Basics when it comes to buying meat because they sell very low grades of meat in general but will buy dry goods from there. I know people think Farmboy is too expensive but if you watch the prices you can get thing for great prices there too. Their reduced rack for vegetables is a perfectly fine option if you plan on making things sooner than later. In general I try to buy meat when it's around $1-1.50 a portion per meal seeing as we are 3 adults. 1 pork tenderloin at around $3.75 comes in around $1.25 per person. 2 weeks ago I bought a 15 pack of drumstick from Farmboy for $7.80 each. I bought 3 packs. 2-3 drumsticks per person at ￠.52 each. These are the times you buy more, portion them out and have back ups in the freezer when the sales suck or nothing is on sale. When ground beef goes on sale for around $4/lbs I buy 4-6 depending on how it's packaged. (usually 2-3 pound packs). Only buying things when they are on sale leaves you with extra money for the higher priced things that go on sale like Fish, Chicken breasts, Stewing beef, Ribs, etc.

I also have a garden where I grow things so throughout the summer and fall that cuts down on what I have to buy, not a lot but it helps.

McDonalds is never the cheaper option, its the convenient option.


Cause that's what men do.
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How is under $4 a meal a lot? This includes meals like chicken and veggie stir fries from scratch or the occasional steak or whatever. It's very good and healthy and home made.

$300 for 3 people? That's 270 meals a month...that's $1.11 per meal.

Not even Kraft dinner is that cheap.

If you have snacks, thats under a dollar per meal.


I'm very curious to know what you're buying for under $1 per serving and how healthy is it?

We do almost all our shopping at Costco/Wal Mart for packaged goods and then farm boy for as much produce as possible.
 
HoweHullOrr

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Daffy said:
People aren't stupid. They just sent a message, loud and clear, that they don't listen to the main stream media lies and BS.
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Huge irony. I guess the message is that they are more selective in which source of lies & BS they listen to & believe.
 
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