Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[10Ducky10]

I can see Schiefele being that player who wants to play with one team for his career. Not many of those players left and especially rare in the NHL.

He mentioned something about that at the exit interview. Said that Yzerman played a long time in Detroit before they won anyting...14 or 15 years I think.
I'd be alright with giving Scheif a 7 year deal for around 8.25m and possibly buying out or dumping the last year or two of his deal. He's worth it regardless of what fans think.

I'd offer Helle 5 x 9.25m.

 

[JetsFan815]

Not people on this board slowly starting talk themselves into the idea of running it back with 55/37.

 

[thejaf7]

Jets will try to sell him to be the face of franchise, captain, and highest paid jet. They’ll try to keep him at all cost.

At one point you could easily see him as the next captain. First pick of Jets 2.0, the ability to score, he's easiest to market as the face of the franchise. Maybe Wheeler was the one to leave to let him flourish who knows.

 

[Daximus]

Not people on this board slowly starting talk themselves into the idea of running it back with 55/37.

Whats the point of not? I was all for trading them and rebuilding before the PLD trade brought back roster players over futures. If we are going to compete we should be icing the best roster we can otherwise its all for not.

 

[jetsforever]

I can see Schiefele being that player who wants to play with one team for his career. Not many of those players left and especially rare in the NHL.

I would like to see that but last year he had those comments about wanting to see where the team is going and then all the reports of locker room tension came out so I'm not convinced until he extends.

 

[Flair Hay]

Not people on this board slowly starting talk themselves into the idea of running it back with 55/37.

We might as well start rationalizing it because the likelihood seems to be going up

 

[surixon]

Whats the point of not? I was all for trading them and rebuilding before the PLD trade brought back roster players over futures. If we are going to compete we should be icing the best roster we can otherwise its all for not.

Agreed. I would like to see some certainty though. If Mark is willing to sign then sign him, you can afford to have one legacy contract on your books.

Helle I think is gone so get the best futures you can and then grab a Swayman, Hart etc from a team.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Not people on this board slowly starting talk themselves into the idea of running it back with 55/37.

Those of us who see Chevy’s pattern have been saying it for months. If his hand isn’t forced, he doesn’t move. I actually thought he would try to run it back with PLD included..

 

[Gil Fisher]

Whats the point of not? I was all for trading them and rebuilding before the PLD trade brought back roster players over futures. If we are going to compete we should be icing the best roster we can otherwise its all for not.

maybe it's with a view to the best roster from year 3-10 and not years 1-4.

 

[Daximus]

maybe it's with a view to the best roster from year 3-10 and not years 1-4.

Well we can kiss Connor, Ehlers and likely more goodbye if we are taking the long term route over trying to be better now so we might as well have blown it up.

Agreed. I would like to see some certainty though. If Mark is willing to sign then sign him, you can afford to have one legacy contract on your books.

Helle I think is gone so get the best futures you can and then grab a Swayman, Hart etc from a team.

Yeah I always thought Schief would be our legacy guy. Now that Wheeler is gone maybe the room is opening up a bit more and things can be better.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Well we can kiss Connor, Ehlers and likely more goodbye if we are taking the long term route over trying to be better now so we might as well have blown it up.

I think we probably should flip guys in the 29-31 age group rather than extend, yes. I think we're better for the Dubois trade. That's the formula.

 

[Daximus]

I think we probably should flip guys in the 29-31 age group rather than extend, yes. I think we're better for the Dubois trade. That's the formula.

That formula only works if you aren't on every single NTC in the league and can attract notable talent and you don't have talent constantly wanting to leave. We have to play the game differently.

 

[surixon]

Well we can kiss Connor, Ehlers and likely more goodbye if we are taking the long term route over trying to be better now so we might as well have blown it up.



Yeah I always thought Schief would be our legacy guy. Now that Wheeler is gone maybe the room is opening up a bit more and things can be better.

I honestly didn't have an issue with Mark most of last year. He was the most consistient goal scorer we had. Sure his play dipped in his end at times but by and large he was much better then he had been. Sure he and his coach had a bit of a disagreement on offensive philosophy but I don't see how that is the big deal the media makes it out to be. I'm sure players and coaches have disagreements on things all the time.

All Mark did was give an honest answer on how he prefers to create offense and the media of course takes it as open defiance of the coach.

Mark seems tight with one of the major leaders in JoMo and by some media accounts really helped Perfetti out this past year. If he was such a bad apple in the room I doubt we see the comrordery between him and his teammates.

 

[ps241]

While I do question if Perfetti can be a full time C in the nhl, or some of the ridiculous player/career comparison ppl have of him. But he was a top-10 pick few years ago, and yes barely has played C since being drafted. I think it'd behoove the team to give him some reps there to see what they have in him.

Maybe he sticks, maybe he doesn't. No idea. No one knows till he actually plays the position. But there's infinitely more upside in Perfetti playing that role than Namestnikov.

And I do agree. I think they go with Villardi. They injury risk for both him and perfetti id say is high. But the team needs to see what either of the two players have given one of them, perhaps even both of them, may be top 6 Cs of their future.

Well I would prefer to shelter Perfetti in a centre role initially if possible. The Jets were perfectly fine running Schiefele out at centre and he sucks defensively . Perfetti is already better than Mark at that aspect of the game by default but the question is does playing centre negatively impact his offence.

I can see Schiefele being that player who wants to play with one team for his career. Not many of those players left and especially rare in the NHL.

I hope you’re wrong.

Jets will try to sell him to be the face of franchise, captain, and highest paid jet. They’ll try to keep him at all cost.

Third and 20 winds at our back. Time to punt the football.

He mentioned something about that at the exit interview. Said that Yzerman played a long time in Detroit before they won anyting...14 or 15 years I think.

I'd be alright with giving Scheif a 7 year deal for around 8.25m and possibly buying out or dumping the last year or two of his deal. He's worth it regardless of what fans think.

I'd offer Helle 5 x 9.25m.

Next contracts are going to be killers. We are not a contender so what’s the point of the 30 something big contract signing.

“At one point you could easily see him as the next captain. First pick of Jets 2.0, the ability to score, he's easiest to market as the face of the franchise. Maybe Wheeler was the one to leave to let him flourish who knows.”

Mark is not the captain type. He wasn’t even captain of his junior team.

He is a very good offensive centre but he’s not 25 any more and it’s time for the Jets to move on IMO.

 

[Daximus]

I honestly didn't have an issue with Mark most of last year. He was the most consistient goal scorer we had. Sure his play dipped in his end at times but by and large he was much better then he had been. Sure he and his coach had a bit of a disagreement on offensive philosophy but I don't see how that is the big deal the media makes it out to be. I'm sure players and coaches have disagreements on things all the time.

All Mark did was give an honest answer on how he prefers to create offense and the media of course takes it as open defiance of the coach.

Mark seems tight with one of the major leaders in JoMo and by some media accounts really helped Perfetti out this past year. If he was such a bad apple in the room I doubt we see the comrordery between him and his teammates.

Yeah the Toronto media blows everything up here because they want to see us fail. By all accounts everyone on the team is friends with Scheifs.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I would agree with keeping 55 if he wouldn't have played way below his ability in the second half of last season. His play in the first half was amazing, and then something changed and we saw the Mark of the previous few seasons.

I don't know what's in his head, or not in his head. We will only win anything with players who come to play every night.

 

[gojetsgo]

I would agree with keeping 55 if he wouldn't have played way below his ability in the second half of last season. His play in the first half was amazing, and then something changed and we saw the Mark of the previous few seasons.

I don't know what's in his head, or not in his head. We will only win anything with players who come to play every night.

who played good in the second half of the season? pretty sure scheifele led us in goals, the few we could score... I really don't see why it's only him that gets pointed out for the second half of the season when plenty of others did less then he did...

 

[Daximus]

I would agree with keeping 55 if he wouldn't have played way below his ability in the second half of last season. His play in the first half was amazing, and then something changed and we saw the Mark of the previous few seasons.

I don't know what's in his head, or not in his head. We will only win anything with players who come to play every night.

Everyone outside of a select few seemed to falter in that back half. Not sure what is was but it seemed like everyone just sort of reverted back to their base settings once we climbed to the top of the mountain.

 

[Jack7222]

who played good in the second half of the season? pretty sure scheifele led us in goals, the few we could score... I really don't see why it's only him that gets pointed out for the second half of the season when plenty of others did less then he did...

Agree. Scheif was one of the guys who was going to the net hard and getting into scrums and stuff in the back half of the season. I think he was frustrated as anybody. I don't think he switched off.

 

[ps241]

Everyone outside of a select few seemed to falter in that back half. Not sure what is was but it seemed like everyone just sort of reverted back to their base settings once we climbed to the top of the mountain.

It was pretty depressing. That new coach high came crashing down.

 

[Daximus]

It was pretty depressing. That new coach high came crashing down.

Something happened. Maybe having that early season success got to their heads and they thought they could coast a little bit, then when we started to faulter they had trouble getting back there. Who knows.

 

[macmaroon]

It was pretty depressing. That new coach high came crashing down.

Yeah, that new coach smell only lasts so long...

 

[ps241]

Something happened. Maybe having that early season success got to their heads and they thought they could coast a little bit, then when we started to faulter they had trouble getting back there. Who knows.

It was really strange. Highs and lows happen in a season but that was months of total crap lottery level play.

 

[surixon]

Honestly I think most of the poor second half can be explained by variance. They had horrible shooting luck despite dictating more of the play. The one area that stunk was the PP without Lauer.

I think if you see a similar caliber if play all year next year they play win a lot.

 

[Gil Fisher]

That formula only works if you aren't on every single NTC in the league and can attract notable talent and you don't have talent constantly wanting to leave. We have to play the game differently.

we're not acquiring anybody over 26 under that formula. NTCs are irrelevant.