Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[DRW204]

 

[Maukkis]

My first instinct is to ask "how can they afford that", but it's the Leafs. They will find a way.

 

[Buffdog]

My first instinct is to ask "how can they afford that", but it's the Leafs. They will find a way.

I wonder if they're planning on moving Nylander. If so, seems like a lateral move. Save about 1.5M in cap

 

[DRW204]

My first instinct is to ask "how can they afford that", but it's the Leafs. They will find a way.

Mb move a contract to Chicago, Anaheim or Arizona.

 

[bustamente]

Leafs let a whole bunch of forwards go and then they sign Bertuzzi for 5.5. Whatever helps them to not win I'm fine with.

 

[DRW204]

Sidenote
Puck pedia as a resource has really improved over the years. I think their analysis and overall content might be better than capfriendly's

 

[scelaton]

Too much pessimism here, methinks. I am somewhat more optimistic than last year at this time, because Jets management and owner have been forced to change a bad situation.

Last off-season it was patently obvious to me that accountability in the dressing room had been lost. Bowness had his honeymoon effect for a few months, but then things regressed back to the mean.

There are only 2 elite players on this team worth keeping, Helle and Josh. I'll be sad to see Helle leave but there is nothing to be done other than extract as much as possible in trade.

Scheifele is not anywhere close to elite and has been an unhealthy presence for a while now. I don't know where we will get his 42 goals, but have no doubt there are other young Cs around whose defensive metrics and 5x5 goal differential will be as good or better in the next 2 years.

I'm OK to wait a little longer till the right deal comes around, but always worry about injury in the back of my mind. The last thing this team needs, however, is for Scheifele to be signed long-term in Wpg.

 

[KingBogo]

It would be interesting if we keep both Helly and Scheifele. I think we are a better team than last season with the PLD return. Re-signing Scheifele probably goes a long way in keeping Ehlers and Connor happy having a #1 center to play with. It might open up a bit of a window if the prospects develop well and they hit the NHL on their ELCs in time to mesh with the older core.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

We should be grateful that Chevy isn’t a GM that’s willing to take a bad return for the sake of a deal. If the PLD deal was the minimum to get him, we won’t have to worry about trading Helle or Scheifele for trash.

 

[WolfHouse]

idk what your obsession is with namestnikov at 2c.

Names isn't great but that line had chemistry last year

yes I want Perfetti or Barron to magically be our new 2C... but right now, when you look at this roster - only Valardi or Namestnikov can be slotted in at 2C unless we bump up Lowry.

Valardi had a much better year at wing and I'd rather him rack up points with and cover for Scheif since we seem to be running it back.

What's the obsession with Perfetti as 2C? He hasn't been healthy for a full season and hasn't really taken draws in the NHL...

Most likely we are planning on Vilardi at 2C imo - I don't think its the best use of his talent

 

[gojetsgo]

Names isn't great but that line had chemistry last year

yes I want Perfetti or Barron to magically be our new 2C... but right now, when you look at this roster - only Valardi or Namestnikov can be slotted in at 2C unless we bump up Lowry.

Valardi had a much better year at wing and I'd rather him rack up points with and cover for Scheif since we seem to be running it back.

What's the obsession with Perfetti as 2C? He hasn't been healthy for a full season and hasn't really taken draws in the NHL...

Most likely we are planning on Vilardi at 2C imo - I don't think its the best use of his talent

I think people may want to try perfetti at center because he was drafted as a center and probably has the highest upside of anyone of our young players, we won't know how he will do unless we try it so I really don't see the point in writing him off as a center before we even give him the chance there, there is no harm in penciling him in there. names is more of a utility guy that can move up the line up if you have injury's

 

[DRW204]

Names isn't great but that line had chemistry last year

yes I want Perfetti or Barron to magically be our new 2C... but right now, when you look at this roster - only Valardi or Namestnikov can be slotted in at 2C unless we bump up Lowry.

Valardi had a much better year at wing and I'd rather him rack up points with and cover for Scheif since we seem to be running it back.

What's the obsession with Perfetti as 2C? He hasn't been healthy for a full season and hasn't really taken draws in the NHL...

Most likely we are planning on Vilardi at 2C imo - I don't think its the best use of his talent

While I do question if Perfetti can be a full time C in the nhl, or some of the ridiculous player/career comparison ppl have of him. But he was a top-10 pick few years ago, and yes barely has played C since being drafted. I think it'd behoove the team to give him some reps there to see what they have in him.

Maybe he sticks, maybe he doesn't. No idea. No one knows till he actually plays the position. But there's infinitely more upside in Perfetti playing that role than Namestnikov.

And I do agree. I think they go with Villardi. They injury risk for both him and perfetti id say is high. But the team needs to see what either of the two players have given one of them, perhaps even both of them, may be top 6 Cs of their future.

 

[Daximus]

While I do question if Perfetti can be a full time C in the nhl, or some of the ridiculous player/career comparison ppl have of him he was a top-10 pick few years ago, and yes barely has played C since being drafted, he did in jrs. I think it'd behoove the team to give him some reps there to see what they have in him.

Maybe he sticks, maybe he doesn't. No idea. No one knows till he actually plays the position. But there's infinitely more upside in Perfetti playing that role than Namestnikov.

And I do agree. I hink they go with Villardi. They injury risk for both him and perfetti if say is high. But the team needs to see what either of the two players have given one of them, perhaps even both of them, may be top 6 Cs of their future.

Yeah Names is more of a bottom 6 guy that you can plug into the top 6 in a pinch. Perfetti definitely has a higher upside there if he can do it so we might as well see what we have there. Then give Vilardi a shot if it doesn't look promising. With a very outside chance that Kupari could potentially make it work. All of them have some upside and should be given an audition.

 

[DRW204]

Yeah Names is more of a bottom 6 guy that you can plug into the top 6 in a pinch. Perfetti definitely has a higher upside there if he can do it so we might as well see what we have there. Then give Vilardi a shot if it doesn't look promising. With a very outside chance that Kupari could potentially make it work. All of them have some upside and should be given an audition.

Yeah Names is what he is. Journeyman utility guy. I like him but perfetti should be getting more minutes than him. I think vilardi will get the role to start the year.

 

[Daximus]

Yeah Names is what he is. Journeyman utility guy. I like him but perfetti should be getting more minutes than him. I think vilardi will get the role to start the year.

Based on Chevy's comments it seems like they really want to try Perfetti there first. Vilardi really took off in LA once they moved him to RW and he could focus on being the triggerman. So I think the Jets would like to be able to free up his game and keep him at RW. If Perfetti doesn't work out then they likely go to Vilardi to see what he has. Kupari is the real wild card though. LA fans say he plays more of a top 6 kind of game but was never given a shot in LA's top 6 they tried to mold him into a checking line kind of player. He's fast, has skill, is physical and is pretty solid on the dot. He's the real wildcard of the PLD trade because I think he actually could have the most top 6 C upside among the young guys on the roster but might just need a chance to prove himself.

 

[Aggie204]

Too much pessimism here, methinks. I am somewhat more optimistic than last year at this time, because Jets management and owner have been forced to change a bad situation.

Last off-season it was patently obvious to me that accountability in the dressing room had been lost. Bowness had his honeymoon effect for a few months, but then things regressed back to the mean.

There are only 2 elite players on this team worth keeping, Helle and Josh. I'll be sad to see Helle leave but there is nothing to be done other than extract as much as possible in trade.

Scheifele is not anywhere close to elite and has been an unhealthy presence for a while now. I don't know where we will get his 42 goals, but have no doubt there are other young Cs around whose defensive metrics and 5x5 goal differential will be as good or better in the next 2 years.

I'm OK to wait a little longer till the right deal comes around, but always worry about injury in the back of my mind. The last thing this team needs, however, is for Scheifele to be signed long-term in Wpg.

Hear, Hear!

I get the playoff revenue side of the business, but if Chevy can retool the team to a legit conference contender within the next 3 years, it’ll be better for the financial health of the team in the long run.

But I don’t know if STH and regular fans can stomach 3 years of a rebuild/retool. I for one is excited for the new year. My overall financial outlook has improved and I am signing up for season tickets after my mortgage is paid off in August.

GoJetsGo!

 

[DRW204]

Based on Chevy's comments it seems like they really want to try Perfetti there first. Vilardi really took off in LA once they moved him to RW and he could focus on being the triggerman. So I think the Jets would like to be able to free up his game and keep him at RW. If Perfetti doesn't work out then they likely go to Vilardi to see what he has. Kupari is the real wild card though. LA fans say he plays more of a top 6 kind of game but was never given a shot in LA's top 6 they tried to mold him into a checking line kind of player. He's fast, has skill, is physical and is pretty solid on the dot. He's the real wildcard of the PLD trade because I think he actually could have the most top 6 C upside among the young guys on the roster but might just need a chance to prove himself.

That's fine Chevy thinks so I've seen too many times his words don't match what happens. Anyway we'll see. One of the two will have to hit, and maybe even both given scheifeles uncertainty beyond this eyar.

 

[Daximus]

That's fine Chevy thinks so I've seen too many times his words don't match what happens. Anyway we'll see. One of the two will have to hit, and maybe even both given scheifeles uncertainty beyond this eyar.

A lot of that was due to Chevy and Mo not seeing eye to eye on how to ice the roster. Chevy wanted one thing, Mo wanted another. Bones seems to be more in tandem with Chevy and I think Bones wants to give it a shot as well. Yeah Schief is still a real wildcard as we might have to give a few of them a shot if he's gone.

 

[None]

A lot of that was due to Chevy and Mo not seeing eye to eye on how to ice the roster. Chevy wanted one thing, Mo wanted another. Bones seems to be more in tandem with Chevy and I think Bones wants to give it a shot as well. Yeah Schief is still a real wildcard as we might have to give a few of them a shot if he's gone.

Wasn't there a point where Heinola was expected to get a shot with Chevy straight up telling the media that he'd play the next game and then Bowness played Capobianco over him?

 

[Daximus]

Wasn't there a point where Heinola was expected to get a shot with Chevy straight up telling the media that he'd play the next game and then Bowness played Capobianco over him?

I don't recall that. It's possible.

 

[gojetsgo]

Wasn't there a point where Heinola was expected to get a shot with Chevy straight up telling the media that he'd play the next game and then Bowness played Capobianco over him?

pretty sure that was after the trade deadline when maurice was still coach

 

[None]

pretty sure that was after the trade deadline when maurice was still coach

Yeah, I'm not sure which coach it was. I could've sworn it was Bowness but it very easily could've been Lowry or Maurice.

The GM isn't always super credible for statements on the roster though, it's not Chevy making those decisions was my overarching point.

 

[Daximus]

Yeah, I'm not sure which coach it was. I could've sworn it was Bowness but it very easily could've been Lowry or Maurice.

The GM isn't always super credible for statements on the roster though, it's not Chevy making those decisions was my overarching point.

No it isn't but Chevy and Mo were pretty well known to be on completely different pages. A lot moreso than Bones and Chevy. The GM and coach have meetings all the time so I'd imagine Chevy isn't just shooting from the hip here.

 

[thejaf7]

I can see Schiefele being that player who wants to play with one team for his career. Not many of those players left and especially rare in the NHL.

 

[puck stoppa]

I can see Schiefele being that player who wants to play with one team for his career. Not many of those players left and especially rare in the NHL.

Jets will try to sell him to be the face of franchise, captain, and highest paid jet. They’ll try to keep him at all cost.