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Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

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Swayman almost certainly has to be coming back.

Then after that there are some interesting pieces. Carlo, DeBrusk, Geekie.

Carlo has a 10 team no trade that he just submitted yesterday though. Odds we are on it?

I think we could even try and get a conditional pick out of it.

10 teams. He's American. Those 10 teams are likely all of Canada plus Arizona and Buffalo and other.

Yeah we on it
 
Debrusk is one year from UFA, so he's a no go in all likelihood. Lysell is another A prospect that could get a call up during the year.
 
They ain't moving 55 for picks and prospects. They would probably want players who can play back.

55 creates a huge hole that can't be fixed with other trades. You need to get back a center, how bout Zacha Swayman Lysell plus 1st but man... 55 is more productive. I trust pagnotta, I don't trust McIntyre, I'm not sure here. Boston don't got much if a guy like Carlo Is off the table.
 
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I meant living chq to chq! Lol
Yup Chevy does Chevy things. Makes good deals but stuck in no man’s land.

In Calgary they say it’s driven by the owner(s). Perhaps that’s the mandate here too.
 
They ain't moving 55 for picks and prospects. They would probably want players who can play back.

55 creates a huge hole that can't be fixed with other trades. You need to get back a center, how bout Zacha Swayman Lysell plus 1st but man... 55 is more productive. I trust pagnotta, I don't trust McIntyre, I'm not sure here. Boston don't got much if a guy like Carlo Is off the table.
That’s a better haul than PLD got us. I’d guess we only can get 2 of those 4 listed.
 
If you're trading Helle for Mercer then you can get Carlo back for Scheif...

But with the Shattenkirk signing - I'd say Carlo or Grecz is on the way out
 
Usually the simplest answer is the best answer... I try not to let it get me down too much. I'm sure they don't see it quite as binary as we do

That’s a great attitude towards any uncontrollable variable. Well done

ya, it’s pretty easy to win it all. You’re bad for a year or two, then straight to the top!

In Winnipeg, it’s far more likely to be a Buffalo than a New York..

Hard to say really I don’t think it hurts to sell hard for one or two seasons like St Louis just did after their cup. Not a tank but they did load up on futures a bit.


It's not for me. I could take it once in my lifetime. I don't have the time or energy for annual stressful playoff runs though. :laugh:

I have settled in to the reality it most likely won’t come together in this market with this owner. I do like live NHL hockey though so I’m not going anywhere.
 
Going All In has consequences as well, you end up like Columbus for a few years. Trying to be close to the top ten consistently gives you better odds in the long run. Every now and then you have a good run ( no injuries, luck, great ELC deals, TDL moves, hot goalie ). The presidents trophy winner rarely wins it.

I don’t think ending up like Columbus for two years or so is that bad. I mean full prolonged tank is not going to happen here.
 
They ain't moving 55 for picks and prospects. They would probably want players who can play back.

55 creates a huge hole that can't be fixed with other trades. You need to get back a center, how bout Zacha Swayman Lysell plus 1st but man... 55 is more productive. I trust pagnotta, I don't trust McIntyre, I'm not sure here. Boston don't got much if a guy like Carlo Is off the table.
Swayman replaces Helly. He even had better fancy stats than Connor last year. It looks like he can play. Would be a good test of those stats though, moving from last year's Bruins to the Jets.

Regardless, Swayman is the only Day 1 starter on the Bruins that we want that doesn't have a NTC of some sort. (including Zacha)

Yzerman making moves that make you go hmm in Detroit makes me curious.

Sign Domi and Toews if u move 55?
the buzz on Toews down here at Clearwater Bay is he won't suit up again.
 
Really would love to grab Swayman and Carlo from the Bruins in a deal.

As mentioned, the Carlo thing has likely come and gone, as the Jets are most certainly on any version of a no trade list that he has submitted. He would have been an extremely nice piece on the blue line for the Jets and would help alleviate some of the issues at RD for the team.

I think the tricky thing with Boston is they are a team with not a ton in the cupboard and the Jets don't seem the want futures/picks, regardless. On the other hand, I don't see the Bruins wanting to put massive holes in their active lineup as they will be going for it again in the East.

The Marchand, Pasta, etc core window is obviously in the here and now.
 
Holm to Colorado

Watch him become their goalie of the future


 
i can see BOS trading out of Ullmark to save on $, sign a goalie+swayman and possibly paying them combined less than 5m.
Ullmark has a m-ntc though of 15 teams.
 
I think Helle has been clear. He wants to contend for a Cup. Bringing in Broissot is mostly irrelevant to our Cup chances. I don’t think we are a contender at this point, so my guess is that nothing has changed for him.
 
I think Helle has been clear. He wants to contend for a Cup. Bringing in Broissot is mostly irrelevant to our Cup chances. I don’t think we are a contender at this point, so my guess is that nothing has changed for him.
I think no contenders wanting to pay him what he feel he's worth could have an effect
 
If Boston is interested in Scheifele, it’s likely they’ll want to sign him long term. I don’t think they want to be in the exact same position again next summer.

Swayman would have to be a piece coming back, and while I would like either Lysell or Poitras included, neither are contributing roster players right now. If Chevy is looking for a contributing roster player then Frederic is probably a second piece. That is the reality of the situation

Probably something like Swayman, Frederic, 2025 1st and Poitras for Scheifele (extended) and maybe Stanley or Harkins.

Only caveat being unless Chevy knows he can pry a better contributing forward from another team in the Helleybuyck trade then Frederic wouldn’t need to be a key piece in the Scheifele deal.

Who that player is or if it’s even a possibility remains to be seen.
 
With Carlo's NTC kicking in, I don't see a fit wth Boston anymore - unless its a three way trade

Maybe you just take a run at Bertuzzi and overpay

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With Carlo's NTC kicking in, I don't see a fit wth Boston anymore - unless its a three way trade

Maybe you just take a run at Bertuzzi and overpay

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The Jets don’t have the cap space for that
 
With Carlo's NTC kicking in, I don't see a fit wth Boston anymore - unless its a three way trade

Maybe you just take a run at Bertuzzi and overpay

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Ehlers-Names-Nino
Bertuzzi-Perfetti-Barron
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idk what your obsession is with namestnikov at 2c.
 
I don’t think ending up like Columbus for two years or so is that bad. I mean full prolonged tank is not going to happen here.
My bet is that jefe ( 55 ) re-signs, if the team needs to move him at the TDL, they can retain salary or trade with 3rd team, and get major assets. Jefe gets a contract, and we have a 1C until then and can plan on being competitive. Jets 3.0. ( Lambert, Lucius, Groot, barlow, Heinola, Chib ) wont be regulars for a couple of years yet.
 
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