Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[10Ducky10]

Lindholm at 50% for 2024 1st, Chishom of Stanley (their choice) and Kup.
Larsson for 2025 1st and Heinola.
A RHD corps of Larsson, DD, and Pionk with Scmidt as our 4RHD would be nice.

 

[jiho]

I have a feeling Chevy is overly loyal to his players so he will not trade for a defenseman and force Schmidt to the pressbox.

 

[Whileee]

The Jets were very interested in Ivan Provorov at one time wonder if they would still be

Damon. Severson.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

I have a feeling Chevy is overly loyal to his players so he will not trade for a defenseman and force Schmidt to the pressbox.

We saw what happened with Enstrom. We pick up a depth D-man and that's it. I can see Stanley being shipped off to honor his trade request and because he's the likely casualty of a roster player going the other way, which doesn't matter if Heinola joins the roster. They'll rotate Schmidt & Heinola, and maybe Samberg to keep the roster fresh, no feelings get hurt. Likely a #6 right-shot D-man gets picked up for the press box, too.

 

[Buffdog]

Lindholm at 50% for 2024 1st, Chishom of Stanley (their choice) and Kup.
Larsson for 2025 1st and Heinola.
A RHD corps of Larsson, DD, and Pionk with Scmidt as our 4RHD would be nice.

Do we really need to upgrade our D? Juice doesn't seem like it's worth the squeeze based on our results so far

Also, lindholm is starting to look more and more like a 2024 Hayes. Buyer beware in that one

And no, I don't have any better ideas lol

 

[LowLefty]

Do we really need to upgrade our D? Juice doesn't seem like it's worth the squeeze based on our results so far

Also, lindholm is starting to look more and more like a 2024 Hayes. Buyer beware in that one

And no, I don't have any better ideas lol

We've struggled a lot with our outlets these last few games - especially with teams that know how to apply a little offensive pressure.
We've spent an lot of time defending lately - some of that comes with a depleted roster and some if likely comes from not being that good at defending in our zone. Hasn't reared it's ugly head a ton this season due to our great 5 man game and being super effective in the neutral zone (which cuts down on dzone defending) - but it's starting to show a bit now and some might even say it has exposed our D for what they are - decent but not great.

All debatable but I wouldn't say we are good to go on the blueline -
When you think about it, who on the team benefits the most from an effective and well executed team defense game plan (from an exposure perspective)? Your goaltender and your blueline.

If we are playing well up and down the lineup, we don't need anyone - but if cracks appear, I can see our D taking on the most pressure.
Not saying we don't need more than a dman at the deadline - but would argue we can't exclude that area.

 

[10Ducky10]

Do we really need to upgrade our D? Juice doesn't seem like it's worth the squeeze based on our results so far

Also, lindholm is starting to look more and more like a 2024 Hayes. Buyer beware in that one

And no, I don't have any better ideas lol

Larsson can pair up with JMo and is an excellent PKer just like Lindholm. He adds size to the back end at 6' 3" and 208 lbs. He has one more season after this one with a 4m caphit. If he isn't a bona fide 1RHD, he is an above average 2RHD.
Lindholm is 6' 1" and 195 lbs. Chevy loves size down the middle. He is 55.8% on the dot.
We add these two players and we become favorites for the cup.

The draft picks are far, far away from having any significant influence on the Jets. Helle and Scheif would be towards the ends of their contracts.

 

[Buffdog]

We've struggled a lot of our outlets these last few games - especially with teams that know how to apply a little offensive pressure.
We've spent an lot of time defending lately - some of that comes with a depleted roster and some if likely comes from not being that good at defending in our zone. Hasn't reared it's ugly head a ton this season due to our great 5 man game and being super effective in the neutral zone (which cuts down on dzone defending) - but it's starting to show a bit now and some might even say it has exposed our D for what they are - decent but not great.

All debatable but I wouldn't say we are good to go on the blueline -
When you think about it, who on the team benefits the most from an effective and well executed team defense game plan (from an exposure perspective)? Your goaltender and your blueline.

If we are playing well up and down the lineup, we don't need anyone - but if cracks appear, I can see our D taking on the most pressure.
Not saying we don't need more than a dman at the deadline - but would argue we can't exclude that area.

I don't disagree that we couldn't use more, better D... but the OP is advocating for getting rid of 2 first round picks, our best young d man and another piece.

I dot think we ougtta do that as a draft and develop team.

BUT... I'd rather take all those assets and pry a long term solution at either/or 2C or RHD than two rentals that gives us a one year window

 

[Adam da bomb]

I don’t know if we stack up all that well against colarodo. They have three defensemen. We just have Morrissey and I don’t think any rental is going to even the gap.

 

[Buffdog]

Larsson can pair up with JMo and is an excellent PKer just like Lindholm. He adds size to the back end at 6' 3" and 208 lbs. He has one more season after this one with a 4m caphit. If he isn't a bona fide 1RHD, he is an above average 2RHD.
Lindholm is 6' 1" and 195 lbs. Chevy loves size down the middle. He is 55.8% on the dot.
We add these two players and we become favorites for the cup.

The draft picks are far, far away from having any significant influence on the Jets. Helle and Scheif would be towards the ends of their contracts.

So are you OK with sucking the years that those two picks would have (maybe) been contributors?

You're mortgaging a huge chunk of the future for a one year window

 

[Adam da bomb]

So are you OK with sucking the years that those two picks would have (maybe) been contributors?

You're mortgaging a huge chunk of the future for a one year window

It’s worth it if you win, not worth it if you lose and odds are always difficult at winning the whole thing.

 

[bustamente]

There’s always the possibility that Chevy could stand pat, he may really like some players but either the return might to great or he could get out bid or that player won’t waive to come here

 

[LowLefty]

I don't disagree that we couldn't use more, better D... but the OP is advocating for getting rid of 2 first round picks, our best young d man and another piece.

I dot think we ougtta do that as a draft and develop team.

BUT... I'd rather take all those assets and pry a long term solution at either/or 2C or RHD than two rentals that gives us a one year window

I'm not interesting in cashing in our assets either - but I do think we will be looking at D depth - especially right side.
Whether it's forwards or D, I don't see us swinging for the fence - especially on rentals or pces that do not necessarily fit with our core game right now (which is heavily weighed to defense). Lots of debate on that but I like the road we're on and I don't want to mess with it too much - unless it's on the blueline and only in depth - I still see that as our weak point that has been sheltered to an extent by our 200 ft game.

I completely agree that as a D/D team, we need to keep that point in mind when we make any decisions on how we spend at the deadline.

 

[LowLefty]

There’s always the possibility that Chevy could stand pat, he may really like some players but either the return might to great or he could get out bid or that player won’t waive to come here

I agree - but I do think he'll bring in depth players that are outside the deadline frenzy.
If you look at his recent trade acquisitions, they fit a mold that supports our current play style - I don't see him venturing far off that path.

I don’t know if we stack up all that well against colarodo. They have three defensemen. We just have Morrissey and I don’t think any rental is going to even the gap.

We have depth and a game plan that works very well against that type of team - not to mention goaltending.
Teams have differing strengths - it's not a player to player profile review anymore - it has a lot to do with how the team is constructed.

 

[10Ducky10]

So are you OK with sucking the years that those two picks would have (maybe) been contributors?

You're mortgaging a huge chunk of the future for a one year window

I'd be happy with it.
Lindholm for one run and Larsson for two at a 4m caphit.
Might even talk one or both of them into re-signing.
Larsson has a 10 team no trade list, so there is that though.
Also, Larsson might allow us to move on from Dillon or DeMelo and Salmon should be joining the team by the time Larsson's deal is over.

I say go for it. Helle is playing as good as I have ever seen him play and Scheif was playing a very good game. Ehlers is also playing as well as I have seen. KC is in his prime and probably Ehlers and JMo too. I say we go for it hard for the next 2-3 years. If these two did come over in a trade, I'd see what Ottawa wanted for Tarasenko as a pure rental.

 

[Whileee]

One consideration... If the Jets can't make a major move for now and future, make smart depth moves at the TDL and wait until the draft if it's clear that the Jets need any major upgrades. The value of a 1st or high 2nd round pick is at the highest at the draft, and there are likely more trade partners. Also, the Jets will have a better handle on their contract / cap situation going forward.

 

[Flair Hay]

One consideration... If the Jets can't make a major move for now and future, make smart depth moves at the TDL and wait until the draft if it's clear that the Jets need any major upgrades. The value of a 1st or high 2nd round pick is at the highest at the draft, and there are likely more trade partners. Also, the Jets will have a better handle on their contract / cap situation going forward.

That's true Whileee.

I do think the same was also true in 2018 and 2019 and Chevy went for it then.

Of course strategy evolves over time. A few unspectacular depth moves may be better for us overall if we get the right guys.

 

[WolfHouse]

What kind of bird

An unladen African swallow

 

[GeorgeJETson]

One consideration... If the Jets can't make a major move for now and future, make smart depth moves at the TDL and wait until the draft if it's clear that the Jets need any major upgrades. The value of a 1st or high 2nd round pick is at the highest at the draft, and there are likely more trade partners. Also, the Jets will have a better handle on their contract / cap situation going forward.

I agree with this 100%.

 

[mazmin]

I agree with this 100%.

I feel Adam Henrique is the best trade option. His best attributes are IQ, skating and energy while he's a solid scorer, defender, faceoff man, and can play PP and PK

He has 37 goals over his last 109 names while Lindholm has 36 goals over his last 162 games and plays more minutes and with better players.

The cost to acquire Henrique should be no more than a 2nd and a relatively small add, maybe Kupari. Ducks could also eat some salary if Jets need the space.

 

[John Agar]

There’s always the possibility that Chevy could stand pat, he may really like some players but either the return might to great or he could get out bid or that player won’t waive to come here

Eeeeeeewwwww...

I hope not...

The Jets need some depth...

 

[bustamente]

Eeeeeeewwwww...

I hope not...

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The Jets need some depth...

I think it all has to do with positioning, if the Jets finish in first in the Central Chevy tries to hit a homerun, if the Jets are top 3 he goes for depth pieces and with a Wild Card spot he stands pat, and no not her

 

[DRW204]

I don’t know if we stack up all that well against colarodo. They have three defensemen. We just have Morrissey and I don’t think any rental is going to even the gap.

Yeah we just become the top defensive team with one good dman

 

[bustamente]

Yeah we just become the top defensive team with one good dman

The D on a whole have been outstanding, last game against the Leafs we held the high powered 4 all star team to no goals in regulation time and that was without Joshua for 2+ periods.

 

[jokesondee]

I feel Adam Henrique is the best trade option. His best attributes are IQ, skating and energy while he's a solid scorer, defender, faceoff man, and can play PP and PK

He has 37 goals over his last 109 names while Lindholm has 36 goals over his last 162 games and plays more minutes and with better players.

The cost to acquire Henrique should be no more than a 2nd and a relatively small add, maybe Kupari. Ducks could also eat some salary if Jets need the space.

Im definitely on board adding Henrique. I do hope however that Chevy is swinging for the fences and in on Lindholm/Jenner/Giroux, but Henrique would be an awesome plan B if the prices were too high.